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The Struggle for Stupidity

smitty_one_each (243267) writes | about a month ago

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Some guy in a suit for 4mins 35 (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a month ago | (#47700501)

... obviously, he must know what he's talking about if he was able to post his monologue to YouTube, right? After all, you can't put anything on the internet that isn't true [youtube.com] , right?

Re:Some guy in a suit for 4mins 35 (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about a month ago | (#47702043)

I love you, man.

nope, and what's really sad (1)

Bill Dog (726542) | about three weeks ago | (#47739639)

Completely disagree with Bill there. Literature is completely lost on children, and is a big waste of their time. Like things like economics, it should be higher education only, and just prepare the yutes with the three R's so they can function in society. And I would say teach critical thinking, so they can protect themselves from being ripped off (in the various ways; i.e. not just financially).

What's sad is that college is wasted on the youth. Like I suspect the vast majority of college grads in the last few generations at least, it was to just get through it. People complain that college is now viewed as vocational training but I don't think it's even that. I think it's predominantly viewed as just to get that piece of paper, that so many jobs (often unnecessarily) require.

But now that I'm more grown-up (okay, only slightly, since college), I could totally see myself in retirement (voluntary or involuntary, however it turns out), when I actually have the time to pursue such things, taking the time to read the great works of literature et al. That is, the time to truly consider all that flowery language and ponder it. But while we have busy lives, most of us just won't feel like we have the time for giving ourself a truly higher education.

Re:nope, and what's really sad (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about three weeks ago | (#47739947)

I don't know. I have two little boys, on whom I'll experiment with giving them as much as they're ready to consume. This idea that Calculus is magical and you have to wait is stupid.

Re:nope, and what's really sad (1)

Bill Dog (726542) | about three weeks ago | (#47740777)

Unless someone is going on to become higher educated for engineering or something like that, its level is pointless for the daily life of the modern American citizen. I had to take a year of the stuff for my BSCS and in 18 years as a professional programmer I've needed to use any of it exactly zero times.

K-12 should focus on skills for life. In high screwl I had geometry, then algebra 2, then trig (and something called math analysis). I'd say even as a programmer most of what I use is probably algebra 1. Most of what was taught had no utility to most kids. Topics with any application to normal life should be plucked from all three and combined into a series of applied math courses.

For example teach kids about things like interest and amortization and compounding. Lots of real-world examples on those instead of esoteria. For Joe Sixpack, crap like learning the quadratic formula is useless, but how to save for the future and not get into credit card debt is... priceless.

Re:nope, and what's really sad (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about three weeks ago | (#47741095)

Couldn't agree less. The basic concept that things vary over time, while not necessarily something used during grocery shopping, is still fundamental to grasping a whole host of analysis.
Does the reality that you don't go around bench-pressing items after the workout negate the value of the gym?
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