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Civ4 First Impression

FortKnox (169099) writes | more than 8 years ago

User Journal 12

Wow... this game is very different. This isn't the Civ1-Civ2 shift or the Civ2-Civ3 shift... its more like the Civ2-SMAC shift... even more so.
The engine is completely different and holds my biggest gripe:
The maps are much smaller than they used to be and the size of the grid spaces are huge. This, along with the inability to have an early city-building boom makes for small small civilizations. Instead of using cities to provide borders, you are much more relied on cultural bordersWow... this game is very different. This isn't the Civ1-Civ2 shift or the Civ2-Civ3 shift... its more like the Civ2-SMAC shift... even more so.
The engine is completely different and holds my biggest gripe:
The maps are much smaller than they used to be and the size of the grid spaces are huge. This, along with the inability to have an early city-building boom makes for small small civilizations. Instead of using cities to provide borders, you are much more relied on cultural borders (even more than civ3). Culture has undergone a rehaul, and is more flexible and complex. This is a good thing. Governments have undergone a complete rehaul, and its much more flexible (you can have a free market, police state, free religion, and slavery!). This makes for great replayability and uniqueness to each civ you create. The graphics and sound, which has always been subpar (but you can't complain because of the gameplay), is OUTSTANDING for this release (the engine is great... zoom into to see the battles, or zoom all the way out and see the whole world!). Each unit talks when you click them, and they do in their native language (I played as the japanese, and all my units were speaking japanese... very nifty!).

I found myself a complete n00b at the game all over again, which left me a bit frustrated. It wasn't for a while that I realized that not only was I never at war, the other civs were being quite peaceful with one another (which would be nice for Sol, but I'm more into the 'conflict brings drama which brings challenges' type gameplay... maybe I just need to increase the difficulty rating from the default).
I was a bit disappointed with my first game, but I think it may have more to do with the fact that I was playing as a n00b instead of a regular civ player like I'm used to. I'm going to start over again and see if that improves my outlook. My biggest dealio last night is was I didn't think "Just one more turn." I was able to turn it off easily (which, as I said, may have more to do with my frustration than the gameplay).

Main point: This game is VERY different and will take time to get used to. Is this a good thing? I'll let you know in a month when I am more of a regular of it.

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Graphics card needs (1)

daeley (126313) | more than 8 years ago | (#13889571)

Hey, what are are the vram/graphics card needs on the box? Anything to worry about?

Re:Graphics card needs (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 8 years ago | (#13890787)

I have an ATi 9600XT and it plays just fine graphics wise. Dunno what the min/rec is, though.

Re:Graphics card needs (1)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 8 years ago | (#13892353)

Lord, am I tired.

I actually read "I have an Atari 2600XT..." and that had me wondering when the XT came out.

Though it would be kinda kewl to play Civ on it. Heh.

Yeah, I actually got suckered into buying that Atari Anthology for PS2...w00t! Pixels the size of your fist!

Cheers,

Ethelred

Re:Graphics card needs (1)

Talinom (243100) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891206)

Tech info [gamespot.com] for the game.

I have a ATI 9200 (1)

FirstNoel (113932) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891354)

It seems to run fine for me. There are a lot of reports on Civfanatics.com about ATI rendering issues though. It looks like it has to do with the drivers.

Sean D.

Re:I have a ATI 9200 (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891471)

What were your impressions? Curious if they were along the same as mine or you had better experiences...

First Impressions (1)

FirstNoel (113932) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891463)

I got about half-way through the tutorial before I went to bed. The time I was playing did go fast however.

There's a cool new feature though, an alarm. In the advanced settings you can set the game to have an alarm go off every so often. I was going to use it to remind myself to take a break.

I like the graphics, the are nice, I like being able to zoom around.

The City screen looks a little busy for me. It's going to take some time to figure out. And the unit upgrades a re a pretty cool feature. Indiviual units can be specialized with certain abilities.

I like the music, I'm still trying to find out what they're singing about in "Baba Yet". I's like to think it's somethin important, and not about a developer's sore toe.

The wonders you can actually see from world view, you don't need to go into the city to see them. That's a very nice touch. Keep me on the main screen and out of the secondary screens as much as possible.

I'm hoping tonight I get some serious play time, however the wife may have other plans.

Dang it! I just want to nuke some one! I saw a screen shot for it, I'd love it if a nuke "terra-formed" the area around it. SMAC had the best nukes so far, hopefully Civ4 will beat it.

I actually did get the special edition. You'd get the special edition if you pre-ordered apparently.

We will have to do the Multiplayer some time.

Sean D.

C4 (1)

PDA_Monkey (801668) | more than 8 years ago | (#13892002)

My coworker bought it and seems rather pleased.

The only C4 I'm concerned with is the stuff in Battlefield 2 that I throw on tanks, helicopters, bridges and other players... Then I blow them up.

Going to become a recluse (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 8 years ago | (#13894471)

I realized before I ever ordered the game that the moment I had it in hand I was going to become a recluse. So I did the only logical thing and ordered the Pre-order edition from Amazon with the slowest shipping they have. I'll be leaving civilization to play civilization somewhere between the 5th and the 9th.

I do have one question though. What does one need for hardware to play the game? I can't find that little tidbit anywhere. I have a 1Ghz PIII in my laptop, decent amount of RAM, and it has Windows on it. If that's not enough I'll have to play from my media PC or some such, which could get annoying. Not about to wipe the desktop for a game though. Maybe I'll try out VMWare's new, free VM runner if it comes down to it.

Re:Going to become a recluse (1)

daniil (775990) | more than 8 years ago | (#13896630)

Talinom [slashdot.org] posted a link to the system requirements. The required minimum is 1.2 GHz, meaning that it's just out of my (1 GHz) league. So I'll just pretend that this game doesn't exist, mkay?

Re:Going to become a recluse (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 8 years ago | (#13902331)

Ah, thanks for the heads up. My poor lappy, the only Windows machine I have hooked up to an actual monitor, is only 1 GHz, so I'll have to find some solution. Maybe I'll commandeer my fiance's desktop which also runs Windows.

First, however, I'll try running it on the 1 GHz machine with 32 MB of video RAM. If that works, I'll take some time out from my being a recluse to let you know.

In the Middle-ages (1)

FirstNoel (113932) | more than 8 years ago | (#13895708)

I started out stuck on a small continent with the Aztecs and Spanish. Took revenge on Montezuma as soon as my Persians got the Immortals, I had horses so they were mounted for an added bonus.

Now I'm trying to get some of Isabella's cities to flip due to my overwhelming culture. If that doesn't work soon, she's going to get flattened. Once I get this game won, I'm definitely going to up the difficulty. I'm on chieftian right now, I wasn''t sure where to start so I'm just plowing through the research and Wonders.

I'm noticing that the over-all combat system is a little different, but not totally removed from Civ3.

Getting the Pyramids does not give your cities an automatic Granary.
Getting the Great Lighthouse does not give your coastal cities and automatic lighthouse.

The religion system is a neat new feature, but since they are all basically the same it doesn't really matter which one you use, except for negotiations. I have a Jewish Synagogue (sp?) and a Hindu Temple in the same city. whoopie. Now if it caused unrest in the city until you got the "Liberalism" civic, that would be an interesting twist. I did notice that Jewish monestaries give more science points, I'm not sure what the Hindus do.

Or if half your empire is one religion, and another half is different, maybe on of them could revolt on it's own and form a new country.

I think the Modders will have a blast with this one.

But over-all it still just Civilization with prettier graphics. I still like it.

Sean D.
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