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takeya (825259) writes | more than 8 years ago

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According to the theologian Richard Rohr (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14916941)

What we're missing in American Society today is a Male Rite of Passage. In his Reflectins on Male Spirituality [72.14.203.104] he gives us the story of what happens when all the older male elephants in a herd are killed for their tusks by poachers- without the example of how to become an adult, the young male elphants go on a rampage, often destroying human villages. By re-introducing adult male elephants into the herd, the young males calm down.

He suggests that there's something similar in human societies, and leads us to find rituals that teach his five promises of initiation:
1. Life is hard.
2. You are not important, and never will be.
3. Your life is not about you.
4. You are not in control, and never will be.
5. You will die, and there's nothing you can do to avoid it.

Without these five ideas there is no way to actually become an adult male. And since our culture no longer teaches these five promises- most men never do grow up, and are quite surprised at their own mortality.

Re:According to the theologian Richard Rohr (1)

takeya (825259) | more than 8 years ago | (#14919266)

In certain countries, a year or 2 of mandatory military service (or voluntary) could be considered a big rite of passage.

Re:According to the theologian Richard Rohr (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14919501)

True enough- though voluntary means that many are going to slip through without that experience. Yes, military service certainly does give many of these experiences- but in more primitive societies, these lessons are often taught by the father first.

Time Flies (1)

mercedo (822671) | more than 8 years ago | (#14935716)

Back in my high teens I once certainly thought about the differences between men and wemen in many respects. Now I'm in the middle of forties, I got married twice, divorced twice.

Women don't make any difference at all from men in any respects now. Probably that tells only time flies.

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