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Journal Chacham's Journal: Chronicle: (Office) Uninstalled Firefox, installed Mozilla. 17

After yesterday's exciting installation of Firefox, i uninstalled it today. I was a bit frustrated this morning when i realized it had automatically reordered my bookmarks. Alphabetical is nice, but not when i'm used to a different setup. Finally, the delay on loading many pages was really bothering me. I couldn't just middle-click on a bunch of links and read them all. I had to wait in between each click for them to load. Even IE is better than that (though it's a right-click "open in new window" thing).

So, i installed Mozilla itself. It's not as sleek, and it didn't import everything automagically, and it did reorder my bookmarks. Oh well, i reordered them back, deleted the extra bookmark folders, and renamed the undeletable folder to be one of the imported folders.

The directional arrows and URL line cannot be consolidated into the menubar line, oh well. But, no freezing when pages load. That seems to mean everything to me.

And the password level bar. Very nice. Like a non-beeping seatbelt warning. Informative without being annoying. I'll bet the developers don't vote Democrat.

And my find dialog is back. The find bar on the bottom is a cute idea, but it agitates me. Every single application i use has a popup find window, and kudos to Microsoft (in Office) for not making it modal. In Firefox having it there at the bottom requires me to remind myself where it is. It does have the advantage of being out of the way, and truthfully, it's like emacs (which i am used to) but something about it just didn't feel right. Either way, Mozilla's find fialog is a welcome sight.

So, i guess i don't like Firefox after all. I hope Thunderbird doesn't have these lockup issues.

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Chronicle: (Office) Uninstalled Firefox, installed Mozilla.

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  • 1. Seach with the url bar in mozilla is superior to firefox's google thinger.
    2. No (obvious) option to open a bookmark of tabs by adding instead of replacing tabs.
    3. No automatically opening a bookmark of tabs when browser opens.
    4. Firefox's search do-hicky (already mentioned).

    Other than that it is basically the same thing as mozilla suite. But some of the things that made using mozilla easy and fast (for use, not necessarily quick for loading pages) are missing.
    • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
      1. Seach with the url bar in mozilla is superior to firefox's google thinger.

      *gasp* You actually search from the bar? :)

      2. No (obvious) option to open a bookmark of tabs by adding instead of replacing tabs.

      I think i used that once, some time back, for opening mail and news. But, assuming this actually happened, i opted to opening a new window entirely instead.

      I found that windows are subject to me, and tabs are parts of that subject. Usally, browsing is all miscellaneous, so there's just a billion tabs in o
      • by FroMan ( 111520 )
        On the first... yeah. I never saw google's homepage. I just punch it into the url bar and hit the down arrow. It is great. ^t type my search, down, enter. Sweet googlieness goodness.

        Second. I have a bookmark for all my morning comic and a bookmark for my morning news and such. With mozilla, I'd hit both bookmarks then choose which I am going to look at first for the day. With firefox I have to do the news, then comics. Also, in windowmaker there isn't a nice bar at the bottem for selecting which b
        • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
          On the first... yeah. I never saw google's homepage. I just punch it into the url bar and hit the down arrow. It is great. ^t type my search, down, enter. Sweet googlieness goodness.

          Heh. Just those privacy issues and that i want an *error* not a search when i mistype.

          ===

          And thanx for the rest of the comments too.
          • by FroMan ( 111520 )
            Odd... They know what I punch in for a search anyways, so I am not too concerned. And I more often forgot to hit the down arrow and wound up trying to go to "gphoto2 usb permissions.com" instead, and because of some goofy setup I have with my firewall and routing I'd wind up at my own website.
            • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
              Heh.

              IIRC, the google toolbar spies on other things as well.
              • by FroMan ( 111520 )
                No, I wasn't talking about the google toolbar.

                In mozilla you can setup so when you type in the address/url bar if you down arrow it'll send you to your search engine of choice. Mine being google.
  • it is the one feature I want in every other program.

    What good is a search dialog box that covers up what I am searching for?
    • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
      it is the one feature I want in every other program.

      What does Stephen King's book have to do with programming?

      What good is a search dialog box that covers up what I am searching for?

      So move the box. Come one, don't be silly. :)

      I'm not saying i don't like it, just that i am not used to it.
      • by Com2Kid ( 142006 )

        it is the one feature I want in every other program.

        What does Stephen King's book have to do with programming?

        Sorry, this went right over my head, no idea what you mean.

        What good is a search dialog box that covers up what I am searching for?

        So move the box. Come one, don't be silly. :)

        Oh if only it was that simple.

        Often times, what I am searching for is not found the first time. Hit search initially, text ends up under dialog, move dialog box, hit search again.

        So of course the next result ends up under the

        • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
          >>>it is the one feature I want in every other program.
          >>What does Stephen King's book have to do with programming?
          >Sorry, this went right over my head, no idea what you mean.

          Your first word "it" is usually a reference to something earlier stated. Since, however, it is the first word stated, i guessed you meant a title, such as King's "It".

          searching for is not found the first time. Hit search initially, text ends up under dialog, move dialog box, hit search again.

          So of course the next resu
        • It's a Stephen King book.

          That is to say, It is a Stephen King book.
          • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
            It's a Stephen King book.

            That is to say, It is a Stephen King book.


            And that's a recursive, recursive, recursive *slap* comment.
          • by Com2Kid ( 142006 )
            After Chacham mentioned it I remembered.

            I've read it. :-p
  • by ncc74656 ( 45571 ) *

    After yesterday's exciting installation of Firefox, i uninstalled it today. I was a bit frustrated this morning wehen i realized it had automatically reorded my bookmarks. Alphabetical is nice, but not when i'm used to a different setup.

    You can drag bookmarks around (in the menu or in the bookmarks manager) to put them in whatever order you want. (As for me, I almost never use bookmarks as they're tied to a machine. I keep them in an IMAP folder that I can use anywhere.)

    Finally, the delay on loading

    • by Chacham ( 981 ) *
      You can drag bookmarks around (in the menu or in the bookmarks manager) to put them in whatever order you want.

      That much i know. I just think the import itself would have been nicer had it left them in the pre-existing order.

      (As for me, I almost never use bookmarks as they're tied to a machine. I keep them in an IMAP folder that I can use anywhere.)

      Nice idea.

      What delay is that? Just a few minutes ago, I went down the list of new JEs and middle-clicked each of them. I'm now reading them in turn.

      I found slash

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