Journal Short Circuit's Journal: Slashdot now a little less private, or "Watch What You Say" 22
At 11:02 -0500 2006.12.04, Michael Mol wrote:
The "Submit" checkbox in journal writting is currently being
ignored---and treated as CHECKED.That's not a bug, but a behavior change. Journal entries without a
checkbox are sent to the firehose, but come in at a lower score.Thanks,
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(I ROT13'd part of the sig, to keep away the icky spiders.)
So, there, you go. Anything you write in your JEs now goes to the submission queue. Including this JE. (Hiya, editors! Love your work!)
Interesting (Score:2)
Journal != Submission
If I wanted to submit a story, I'd use the goddamn submit story link.
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Good to know. Now, the interesting bit. The checkbox has a little disclaimer that:
Allow journal to be submitted as a story? If you do this:
* Comments must be enabled
* Discussion cannot be deleted (though journal can be)
* If accepted, anyone will be allowed to post comments
So, if they "accept" your submission
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Considering the quality of submissions to Slashdot in general, and Ask Slashdot in particular, I don't think it's a far fetched scenario.
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Daft? Action. (Score:2)
I'll just skip over all the ways in which I think this is a bad bit of UI implementation, and suggest that everyone who reads this (and is subscribed) go to the Firehose and give this JE a thumbs-up. JE writers really ought to know about this behavior change, so let's see if we can tell 'em.
"Less private"? (Score:2)
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Journals were never easily accessible from the front page, and until the Firehose incorporated journals, there were only two ways you might encounter the journal of someone you didn't know. Either you clicked on one of their comments, or you happened across it through a key
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Or, like a few of us do, you can just "search" JEs with an empty keyword, and get a list of JEs organized chronologically. This [slashdot.org] link should do the trick.
As for your summ
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That seems less private to me.
If I wish to ask my friends for advice, and in fact limit the ability of people to participate to those I consider to be friends, an editor can override that and open the discussion to a few hundred thousand people.
That se
other problems (Score:2)
Word (Score:2)
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That is a very good point and is pretty clearly a bug. I've submitted this as a sf.net bug [sourceforge.net] which references this journal posting and brings up the other issues raised here. So we're aware of this now and will try to figure out how best to resolve it.
Thanks to everyone for bringing this to our attention.
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The problem is that we rely on the editors to know the difference between a story and an anecdote, and to ignore those which we purposefully designate as limited-response anecdotes... and to respect that difference. I think one reason for the backlash on this one is that it gives an appearance- accurate or otherwise- of that control being ignored, and for those of
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Yeah, we all (Rob and the programming team) talked this over at length today. We all understand that this is an issue and don't want to alienate users who prefer their journals remain private, so we all agreed from the start that we have to change this somehow, so the talk was about how it's going to change. I think we've come up with a good solution and we'll try to push that change live as soon as we can, but that probably won't happen until next week. This week's commits are scheduled to be complete with
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Not that we need to be babysat (No matter how much we may claim that we do) but that the sense of inclusion is important.
I'll watch for later stuff on the subject.
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I just wanted to let you know... (Score:2)
yet again (Score:2)
good job everyone. splendid move.
this is a stupid idea. stop acting like a digg wanna-be. that's really it isn't it? digg is really starting to eat away at your market share, so now you've got to come up with *something* to continue to be relevant?
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Goddamn it, if I see another trollish remark like that, I'm going to Kuro5hin!
;-)
Cheers,
Ethelred
That explains it! (Score:2)
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No, really, which one?
More likely, if you're not joking, you saw a JE of mine, rejected, before an article by someone else on the same topic, sometimes a day or two later.
That's happened at least 3 times.