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Who says civics is dead?

Red Warrior (637634) writes | more than 7 years ago

User Journal 19

Had a conversation with my son this morning, that went along these lines:

Son: [whatever request]
Me: No
S: Why?
M: Because I'm the dad and I said so.
S: Well, I'm the Congress and I vote 2/3. Override!

Had a conversation with my son this morning, that went along these lines:

Son: [whatever request]
Me: No
S: Why?
M: Because I'm the dad and I said so.
S: Well, I'm the Congress and I vote 2/3. Override!

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that is funny (1)

sparky4 (695739) | more than 7 years ago | (#17499384)

did you then explain veto power ?

Re:that is funny (1)

Red Warrior (637634) | more than 7 years ago | (#17500564)

He already knows about veto power.
Hence the 2/3 qualification.
He was attempting to override my veto. :-)

Re:that is funny (1)

sparky4 (695739) | more than 7 years ago | (#17501382)

I thought that they needed more than that, but I am using a rather neglected memory storage system.

My parents always said that ' they who pay the bills make the rules ', a variation on the purse string comment.

2 things... (1)

ellem (147712) | more than 7 years ago | (#17500044)

1) Your son and my son should never meet... it could be bad.
2) Now is a good time to teach ellemism #1 "Voilence can solve all conflicts"

Re:2 things... (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 7 years ago | (#17690568)

Is that like voilent green? <grin>

The golden rule (1)

naoursla (99850) | more than 7 years ago | (#17500374)

What was it I learned in high school US history?

Oh yeah... He who controls the purse strings makes the rules.

Re:The golden rule (1)

Degrees (220395) | more than 7 years ago | (#17508202)

So you are saying RW now gets to explain "unfunded mandates" to his son?

That might prompt the kid to start a 501(c)(3), hitting up patrons at the library....

Re:The golden rule (1)

DittoBox (978894) | more than 7 years ago | (#17532826)

"The Golden Rule," is as follows:

"Whoever has the Gold, makes the Rules."

Re:The golden rule (1)

naoursla (99850) | more than 7 years ago | (#17532962)

Yes, but there was some other rule of government about "purse strings". It is the reason Congress cannot vote to decrease the salary of the SCOTUS justices. It is also how the Federal Government was able to mandate a 55 mpg speed limit across states.

Suitable retort: (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 7 years ago | (#17501202)

Make him watch C-SPAN for hours on end.

Unless he's like me, and actually likes watching Congress calling quorum endlessly.

Re:Suitable retort: (1)

Some Woman (250267) | more than 7 years ago | (#17501586)

There are rewards for diligent C-SPAN watchers. I was watching Book TV one fateful Saturday night at midnight when the infamous Bill O'Reilly vs. Al Franken cat fight broke out.

Re:Suitable retort: (1)

TechnoLust (528463) | more than 7 years ago | (#17508914)

Just wondering... when did they change the definition of the word "reward"? ;-)

Reminds me of political science class (1)

Kymermosst (33885) | more than 7 years ago | (#17505848)

Back when I was a sophomore and had to take some breadth classes. I chose political science. The teacher was a great guy, even if my political office.

He was talking and someone raised their hand and interrupted. He said "I've got the floor, and I'm not yielding it until I'm done. Just like a filibuster."

I piped up "I move for cloture [wikipedia.org] !"

That actually got him to stop what he was saying. He shook his head and said something along the lines that he was glad I was learning.

Re:Reminds me of political science class (1)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 7 years ago | (#17506840)

He shook his head and said something along the lines that he was glad I was learning.

So, RW, along those lines, did you grant his first request? I think I would've, just because I'd be pleased my kid knew enough to say that. Not that they're not smart, just the creative, out-of-nowhereness of that statement. :)

Re:Reminds me of political science class (1)

Red Warrior (637634) | more than 7 years ago | (#17508240)

I WAS tempted. But, alas, no.
'tis an important life lesson to know what is open for negotiation and what is not. :-)

He's also had some tough lessons in the unitary executive. (You can't play mom against dad.)

Re:Reminds me of political science class (1)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 7 years ago | (#17508940)

'tis an important life lesson to know what is open for negotiation and what is not. :-)

Yeah, I suppose it would've depended on what the request was. :)

He's also had some tough lessons in the unitary executive. (You can't play mom against dad.)

Oooo...Yeah, once you get get caught out trying that one, other tactics are under closer scrutiny. :)

Re:Reminds me of political science class (1)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 7 years ago | (#17513958)

The Stepkids tried this with me when I first got with my wife.

"I thought I told you you couldn't do that."
"Mom said it was OK."
"Hhhmm. Did you tell her what I had said?"
"Well..."
"Why don't you go and ask her again and tell what I said."
"Never mind."

Happened all of like twice, because my wife was onboard with it, too.

So... (1)

FroMan (111520) | more than 7 years ago | (#17506916)

He knows civics in the US. Did you explain that the familial government is a dictatorship and dissentors have been known to go missing into the bedroom-gulags for hours without dinner?

Re:So... (1)

Red Warrior (637634) | more than 7 years ago | (#17508348)

:-)

Indeed. (Except that I don't do the without dinner thing.)

Of course, the trick is that the dictator CAN be convinced with solid argument. Rare, but it does happen.
(EX: "That gives me diarrhea [when it actually does], can we have pizza instead?")
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