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Vista release + Bad AMD Turion sales

jawtheshark (198669) writes | more than 7 years ago

AMD 6

Means cheap-ass laptops for little sharkies. I've been tempted to buy a new laptop for a while. Last time it was a Core 2 Duo in nice 12" form factor, but it took time to tell me that it's the moment and that 999€ was an okay price. (For a Core 2 Duo, with 1Gig RAM and Intel graphics) When I decided to get it, it was sold out. Well, I'm glad that I didn't do it.

Means cheap-ass laptops for little sharkies. I've been tempted to buy a new laptop for a while. Last time it was a Core 2 Duo in nice 12" form factor, but it took time to tell me that it's the moment and that 999€ was an okay price. (For a Core 2 Duo, with 1Gig RAM and Intel graphics) When I decided to get it, it was sold out. Well, I'm glad that I didn't do it.

Today, I was grocery shopping and I saw this for a mere 799€. Yes, a Core 2 Duo is better than a AMD Turion X2, and yes, ATI sucks, and sure 1Gig isn't much these days. Yes, the keyboard is AZERTY and that's going to suck too. Oh, and battery life is going to suck donkeys balls... But frankly, I'm coming from a P-III 600MHz/512Meg laptop. I guess, the experience is going to be 100x better.

Pretty much all laptops were on sale. (Some were still very expensive, though) You and I know why: Vista is coming and these laptops are going to be unsellable next month. I didn't open the box of the laptop yet (because I needed to go back to work), but there is a huge sticker on its side (that was clearly put there afterwards) claiming "Vista Capable" in big letters. Of course the small text is much funnier: it basically says "you bought a crap laptop to run Vista on". Yeah, go figure: I knew....

It won't for hell be running XP Home as preloaded. (With Works and so! Whahaha, who uses that crap?) Perhaps initially, because I bought Halflife 2 and I never played it. I might just play it on that laptop and then reformat the whole shebang. My tendency goes to FreeBSD which worked perfectly fine on my P-III laptop, including wireless. We'll see.... I still have to get that Debian desktop running. (Okay, it's running just fine... I admit)

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an opinion (1)

subgeek (263292) | more than 7 years ago | (#17712142)

ati has been making decent stuff for a while now. the x300 in that 1100 mobile chipset isn't their fanciest, but nvidia makes lower end stuff as well.

i thought HL2 was a really fun game, but i was predisposed to like it because it's exactly the genre i enjoy, a shooter with variety.

Re:an opinion (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 7 years ago | (#17714402)

Frankly... I'd have taken an Intel chipset. I didn't look what ATI chipset it was: the only thing that mattered was that it was not too big (I would have preferred 12"), had at least 1Gig RAM and was Dual Core. All the rest was irrelevant. I've got an Intel graphics chip on my work laptop (a Core 2 Duo / 2Gig RAM), and while I was on training in Brussels I took it for a little testdrive with diverse "Demo" versions of games. It was acceptable.

If the ATI performs as well or better than the Intel chipsets, I'll be okay. Especiially that the purpose is to run Linux or FreeBSD in the long term. I have halflife 2, and it's been used by now: I installed it for my brother and he finished it. Sure, I did not enjoy it (because I didn't play), but someone did. The game has served its purpose, even if it was not for my enjoyment.

I loved Halflife 1, and that is why I bought HL2, even tough no hardware I own can play it. (Okay, my AMD Dual could technically play it, but the graphics card can't cope and my wifes computer might cope with it too, but its hers not mine -- okay, half the hardware in there is mine by now *grin*) I loved Wolfenstein 3D (the original), I was into Doom, but never into Quake. I played some Quake II multiplayer. That was fun. My poison was Blood [wikipedia.org] . That was a heck of a fun game. ;-)

Never did any other shooters.

Dude (1)

ces (119879) | more than 7 years ago | (#17734406)

You should have got a Lenovo [lenovo.com] .

One thing I can't abide on most laptops nowadays, especially the wide screen ones, is the lack of vertical resolution.

For whatever reason a majority of the market seems to have decided that only 800, or even 600 pixels is enough vertical resolution, even on a gigando 17" laptop.

Personally I'll take a crisp 14" 4:3 aspect ratio screen with 1400x1050 or even 1600x1200 resolution over a crap 17" 1280x800 screen any day of the week.

Now a 1920x1200 or even a 1600x1080 wide screen might be worth the extra weight and bulk.

Re:Dude (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 7 years ago | (#17734974)

Two words: bad vision

I've seen people setting big-ass-resolution 17" LCDs to 800x600 because they found the fonts too small.

I am still using a 15" LCD on my workstation that only does 1024x768. That one cost so much money (because I was a early adopter) that it's only going to be replaced once it's really broken. My work-laptop has the same resolution as this one. The only screen in my direct household that has a bigger resolution is my wifes LCD. That one is 1280x1024.

All, in all: I'm used to it. My dads P-III laptop has 1600x1200 15" and I wonder how he reads from it. I have big difficulties with that.

Re:Dude (1)

ces (119879) | more than 7 years ago | (#17735076)

Two words: bad vision
Yea I suppose bad eyes is a good reason to go with lower resolution, but personally I'd just make the dang fonts bigger.

For that matter if/when my eyes start to go I'd get reading glasses that corrected my vision enough to let me read small text.

I am still using a 15" LCD on my workstation that only does 1024x768. That one cost so much money (because I was a early adopter) that it's only going to be replaced once it's really broken. My work-laptop has the same resolution as this one. The only screen in my direct household that has a bigger resolution is my wifes LCD. That one is 1280x1024
While I can applicate keeping things around when they aren't broken, there comes a time when an upgrade might be in order. LCD monitors are getting cheap enough that there really isn't a good reason not to get a decent 19" one anymore.

All, in all: I'm used to it. My dads P-III laptop has 1600x1200 15" and I wonder how he reads from it. I have big difficulties with that.
Man, I loved the 15" 1600x1200 panel I had on a work laptop for a while. Unfortunately I don't think any of the panel makers are doing that resolution in laptop panels anymore. In fact it would seem the entire flat-panel industry is moving to widescreens, especially at higher resolutions.

Re:Dude (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 7 years ago | (#17748684)

personally I'd just make the dang fonts bigger.

You're going to find this sad: I do that on my work computer too (and, no, I didn't unpack the new machine yet... ever more sad.) Well, I only make fonts bigger while reading web pages. It's for my comfort, not because I can't read the normal fonts. If you turn up the fonts on a Windows machie, apps start to be really weird. It's not as bad as in the 9x days, but it annoys me (and others) enough not to use the feature.

LCD monitors are getting cheap enough that there really isn't a good reason not to get a decent 19" one anymore.

That 15" LCD has cost about 1300€ back in the day. It is still working, the image quality is very good (playing games on it was no problem). I'm not going to spend 300€ to replace a perfectly fine LCD screen. That is 300€ wasted for something that I don't need.

In fact it would seem the entire flat-panel industry is moving to widescreens, especially at higher resolutions.

Yes, it's sad... I thought that my next laptop would be 12" with at least 1600x1200 resolution, but the industry doesn't seem to see money in that. I blame this on bad vision and on the fact that most people run their apps full-screen anyway. I do that too for mundane tasks. At work, it is very different, but my usage patterns there are very different too. For example, I use Virtual Dimension [sourceforge.net] there, while I never felt the need to use it on my home computers. (Of, course, I haven't done any serious development for ages at home either....)

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