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name one item...

tuxette (731067) writes | more than 7 years ago

User Journal 29

...that you think is ridiculous to pay for and should be free for all......that you think is ridiculous to pay for and should be free for all...

29 comments

Simply put... (1)

Rolyat69 (838367) | more than 7 years ago | (#17736416)

Education.

Re:Simply put... (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 7 years ago | (#17737996)

how would that work out? should all teachers be part time and do the teaching for free? that's the only way i can figure off the top of my head that keeps it from costing something.

Re:Simply put... (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 7 years ago | (#17738560)

Nah, you just fund it from advertising. Honestly! Did you not miss the central lesson of the rise of dotcommunism?

Re:Simply put... (1)

Rolyat69 (838367) | more than 7 years ago | (#17740710)

You know, I'm not sure how that could be accomplished that would be fair to all involved. I'll admit that answer was right off the top of my head this morning after I first crawled out of bed. :) Clarity is not one of my strong points in the morning before coffee! I guess what it boils down to is I'd love to see more people have the ability to get an education at more prestigious university systems that are unable to. It always bothered me to hear my peers discussing their dreams of graduating from (insert school name here), but then only to realize they couldn't afford to do so. It's a pipe dream I know, but it's nice to think about.

Re:Simply put... (1)

pudge (3605) | more than 7 years ago | (#17740942)

You know, I'm not sure how that could be accomplished that would be fair to all involved.
It cannot be. Literally, it's impossible.

I guess what it boils down to is I'd love to see more people have the ability to get an education at more prestigious university systems that are unable to.
I wouldn't. I'd rather focus efforts on making it easier for people to get well-educated. The Internet and open source / creative commons open up far better opportunities overall than cheap/free tuition for a few people. The university system itself is mostly a scam, and fast becoming obsolete.

Re:Simply put... (1)

bethanie (675210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17747612)

Don't take this as a personal attack, because it's not intended to be one.

But the idea that anyone gets a better education at $Prestigious_University than $Cheap_State_School or at ANY institution of "higher learning" is a complete crock of shit. An education is what a person makes of it, and the degrees "earned" from those brand-name schools don't amount to a hill of beans education-wise. What they ARE is an engraved ticket to alumnae functions and a social/professional network made up of people who have paid the same fees (or, more aptly, whose parents have paid them).

"Education" is as free as a library card and internet access. ANYone who wants it (in the Free World, at least) can get it. It may take a hell of a lot of gumption and self-discipline, but it's gonna be more valuable than 99% of any Top-Tier(TM) University Degree when it comes to what it actually MEANS.

Those folks smoking their pipe dreams aren't really desirous of a higher level of *education*. What they want is the status, cachet, and social recognition that come with the "Brand" of any particular school. And that has a price -- as well it should.

....Bethanie....

Re:Simply put... (1)

lab16 (416283) | more than 7 years ago | (#17747910)

how would that work out? should all teachers be part time and do the teaching for free?

Family/parents, the public library, and public schools come to mind. Yes, the last 2 cost government money to operate, but the poor and the rich alike can use them equally, so I would count them.

Duh. (1)

bethanie (675210) | more than 7 years ago | (#17736424)

Sex.

....Bethanie....

One item. (1)

Some Woman (250267) | more than 7 years ago | (#17736710)

Clean water.

clean water (1)

tuxette (731067) | more than 7 years ago | (#17737340)

That was my first thought when I saw this posted somewhere else...

Re:clean water (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 7 years ago | (#17738038)

so to clarify (i think this is a cool question by the way) you mean free as in 'those who can't afford to pay for it should have it given to them and those who can afford it do pay for it?' because that kind of changes my answer a bit. i guess i misunderstood - because I was thinking more along the lines of 'what shouldn't have a cost attached to it at all?' but you can't do that with water or a lot of other physical things.

Naturally, I'm reminded of (1)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 7 years ago | (#17737312)

the lyric penned by Jello Biafra for the band Lard's "Mate Spawn and Die":

"Steven Tyler of all people once said/"If men bled,/would tampons be free?"

computer OS (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 7 years ago | (#17738058)

Though I have to admit, free quality health care and free quality education both have merits.

air for my tires (1)

Mantorp (142371) | more than 7 years ago | (#17739258)

at gas stations, what if I don't have a quarter? They don't charge for the squeegee.

Re:air for my tires (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 7 years ago | (#17740402)

They don't charge for air here. Not a eurocent.

What should be free? Good question... I already read around, so I won't say "clean water" and stuff like that.

I think it's obvious: since speech is already free... the thing that should be free is... wait for it... BEER!

Re:air for my tires (1)

SlashChick (544252) | more than 7 years ago | (#17740764)

CA state law requires that stations provide free air and water assuming you've filled up at that station. Of course, most stations have the quarter slot, but they are also required to have a sticker on the pump explaining the state law.

food (1)

TechnoLust (528463) | more than 7 years ago | (#17739484)

no one should go hungry while people in other areas eat the toppings off their pizza and throw the crust away because that nutjob Atkins convinced them bread was bad.

Re:food (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 7 years ago | (#17744750)

it's all about the distribution brother - you lick that and you will be a wealthy man.
 
oh yeah - and get rid of all the evil people that cause starvation in places where the problem is not a lack of food - but the denial of that food for control.

Simple. (1)

Jhon (241832) | more than 7 years ago | (#17740834)

Air.

Anything that goes through ANY type of processing -- or requires human intervention HAS to have some type of cost associated with it. This includes:

  • "clean water" (even tap water as someone needs to pay for the pipes, reservoirs, reclamation plants, etc).
  • Education -- who pays the teachers? Buys the land? Buys the books?
  • Food -- Who pays the farmer? The rancher, etc?


EVERYTHING has a cost -- unless you plan on killing off about 6+ billion people and the few 100k left go back to hunting/gathering. And if everything has a cost, there will always be those who cant afford it.

A better question would be "How to supply necessities to those who need them?" Of course, then you enter the discussion of how to define "necessities"...

Lawyers (1)

sillypixie (696077) | more than 7 years ago | (#17762764)

C'mon guys. Don't pick something that's ALREADY free, pick something that everybody hates paying for.... nobody said it had to be likely, or sustainable. :)

Pix
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