Journal ellem's Journal: File under GOOD! 20
it seems that undocumented workers are "terrified" they will be deported.
That's a good thing.
"What man has done, man can aspire to do." -- Jerry Pournelle, about space flight
it seems that undocumented workers are "terrified" they will be deported.
That's a good thing.
"What man has done, man can aspire to do." -- Jerry Pournelle, about space flight
Hooray (Score:2)
It's a mixed thing... (Score:2)
I'm sorry (Score:2)
Yes, the people being smuggled in are victims, but they also knew that they were breaking the law in coming to this country illegally in the first place.
As someone who has had to put up with 5+ years of BS in getting my wife into this country legally, I have zero tolerance for those who simply decide that they can come in.
A question: would you be so ambivalent about illegal immigrants if they were residing in your house without your permission?
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Because that's exactly what it's all about: selfishness. In their multitudes, Mexicans (and other Latin Americans) wake up on some unspecified morning and decide that today is the day they feel like stealing an American's job, just for shits and giggles.
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It IS about selfishness, but the selfishness is on both sides of the spectrum- they come here to steal our jobs because our corporations went there to steal theirs (it's amazing how cheap Monsanto has made wheat and corn with genetic engineering- so cheap
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I know that if I was poor, and my only chance of making a good life for my family was to do something illegal, I might do it. It is easy to judge people when you don't have to live their life. But lots of these people are simply trying to build a decent life for their kids.
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First off, the mass migration of at least people from Mexico could be slowed down by improving conditions in that country. The current situation merely encourages the Mexican government to ignore many of these problems since they have a pressure release valve in the border. Meanwhile many Mexican families are torn apart as Daddy goes across the border to work and leaves Mom and the kids behind and maybe sends money back to them.
There are already legal methods to seek work here in the U
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I don't understand how I dodge the point. You said that these people are lawbreakers plain and simple. I countered that some lawbreakers need to be dealt with compassionately, depending on the circumstances. Then I offered some examples.
BTW, I don't particularly disagree with your other points. I'm not an "open border/unrestricted immigration" loon. I'd prefer that the economic system in Mexico be cleaned up. My fundamental point is only that lots of these people are decent har
Maybe you didn't (Score:2)
We can and should be compassionate for those less fortunate than us but must be careful not to blind ourselves with compassion. There are programs in place for temporary guest workers but until we are serious about enforcing the borders then we're going to continue to get all of the bad with some of the good.
What this all really means is that we have to go back to the
Frankly (Score:3, Insightful)
I'd like to see employers "terrified" of hiring undocumented workers.
The other thing that bothers me about these raids is ICE and it's predecessor the INS aren't known for being exactly careful of who they round up during these raids as long as they "look" hispanic. Both people here legally and citizens have been rounded up by mistake in the past.
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I understand it. I don't like it, but I understand it. It's because the authorities owe their jobs to elected officials. The elected officials need campaign chests to get elected. And those funds come from the businesses that hire illegal aliens.
I'd like to see employers "terrified" of hiring undocumented workers.
So would I- and it wouldn't take that much. A couple of high-profile, blue-chip
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There's a big lie about Americans not wanting "these" jobs. Bullshit. When I was out of work I went to the 7-11 with my tool bag ready to hang sheet rock and spackle - the contractors wanted nothing to do with me admitting that even if I knew what I was doing I'd be "too expensive". I tried to explain I was more than wiling to work for whatever the going rate was and the guy told me he'd be too ashamed to pay m
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Myth. Have a look here [dollarsandsense.org], then do some googling, all the while asking yourself how bad can this problem be when unemployment is at record lows?
The sad truth is that America's "non-negotiable" way of life means that there are certaint things a good consumer, er, I mean citizen just won't do.
Speaking of which, I have good news on that front. Assuming (as I do) that the US economy begins its run to the toilet this year, you soon wil
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In a heartbeat, but I love physical labour in the outdoors, so you had me at $100/hour
I've also worked as a janitor, dogcatcher and a shrimp farmer. I used to be the guy that worked the night shift at the gas station. I say this to make my next point: you're thinking too narrowly. It isn't just about the money. The "non-negotiable" American way of life extends to the social as well, and to be fair, that's
Less good (Score:3, Insightful)
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Drinking the kool-aid today? (Score:2)
Deporting illegals aliens is about the same as cutting a head off a hydra. It feels good, and can stop an immediate problem, but in the end two more will grow out and eat you twice as fast. Until the business and individuals who hire them are taken to task, and hard, nothing is going to stop it. With the Republicans and Democrats both long since bought off, this is not gonna happen any time soon. Unless, of course, current events [wtopnews.com] spark a nasty
Good indeed (Score:2)