cyranoVR's Journal: Just Watched BSG Season Finale

Fuck Ron Moore and fuck SciFi network. That's just plain sloppy writing. I'm sorry I ever started watching this hack-job of a TV series.

It's no wonder that its ratings are so low they can barely get it back for one more season and all the cast members are jumping ship. I hope they series gets cancelled mid-season and Ron Moore and his writers never work again. Fuck all of them.

WHAT A TWEEST!!!1

Oh where shall we begin...

[Cliff]

So, what specific things about the episode did you not like?

Me personally, it was the whole way they went about the unmasking ("It's in the waaallls!") and the behavior of those revealed.

Then it was the "shocking" way they brought back a particular pilot... "I know the way to Earth. I've been there."

I shudder to think what Season 4 might bring. "Galactica 1980", anyone?

I've grown to expect more from Moore. Here's hoping he's worth the trust I've put in him (but have been increasingly disappointe

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[cyranoVR]

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07085/770732-352.s t m [post-gazette.com]

R: When did you decide to make these four characters Cylons and how much did you have to go back and check to make sure that fit with things we already knew about these four characters?

RM: It was something I came up with this season as I worked toward the finale. The conceptual framework in which these guys are Cylons, it all sort of works once we laid down their individual back stories.

The man is pulling it all out of his ass. He's a hack. They realiz

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[Planesdragon]

That's just lazy, sloppy writing. I doubt a year from now I'll even remember this show.

No, that's lazy, sloppy plotting. It's rather well written, actually -- aside from a few lackluster episodes that were filler. (The season finale, wrapped around a song more recognizable than the show itself, is probably the highest note in a long time for this or any show on TV.)

BSG suffers because it can't not take itself seriously, or else it fails on its premise. There is nothing preposterous in the BSG universe, and so there can be no preposterous stories. Unfortunately, it's very hard to be a str

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[cyranoVR]

Did you even read the linked interview? Ron Moore has been pulling it all out of his ass. He's confusing cheap shocks and "tweests" with actual plot and character development. Pathetic.

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[Planesdragon]

Did you even read the linked interview? Ron Moore has been pulling it all out of his ass.

You mean because he doesn't act Strazynski-like, and pretend that he had it all written down ahead of time?

There's no such thing as a second draft of a TV series. If Ron decided to change his characters midstream -- well, if it makes sense, then it makes sense. Boomer wasn't even a Cylon at the very first part of the series.

FWIW, you seem to be confusing "writing" and "plot." Plot is that thing that you read in a wik

Re:Oh where shall we begin...*SPOILER*

[cyranoVR]

Explain how making Colonel Thigh a Cylon advances the "plot" or shows skill in "writing." Show your workings.

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[Planesdragon]

(I conceded the plot's got some weak spots.)

advancing the plot: Preconceived or not, introducing the "missing five" cylons as free-willed members of the crew was the next part of the story: it builds very nicely on the "in the mind of a Cylon" meme they've been slowly building all year. Having them be not only established characters, but characters who have been rather strongly anti-cylon sets up some very worthwhile storylines for next season.

How does it NOT "advance" the plot, anyway?

Good writing: Over t

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[cyranoVR]

Speaking of Buffy, Joss Whedon is officially writing Buffy Season Eight [tvguide.com] in comic book form.