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Beware Dominionist Sleeper Cell in the U.S.A.

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) writes | more than 7 years ago

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If another nation had specifically trained agents in ways to subvert our constitution, and then managed to get these agents embedded into positions throughout the government, would we be afraid? Very afraid!

If another nation had specifically trained agents in ways to subvert our constitution, and then managed to get these agents embedded into positions throughout the government, would we be afraid? Very afraid!

And what if the agency that trained these agents wasn't another nation, but a group that has formed a shadow government, calling shots for the elected officials, demanding their agents be placed in positions...even calling on the U.S.A. to assassinate other foreign leaders?

Couldn't happen here? It has...and for those who don't consider Pat Robertson's gang a "sleeper cell" look a bit deeper.

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Ruling class (1)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18678081)

Today's population can be most meaningfully mapped by social connections. Our ruling class is not established by bloodline--humans have tried that and found that it's too easy to identify and, eventually, the plebium will revolt and target key members within the ruling families. Our ruling class here in the USA is determined by social circles. Insider trading, sharing priveleged information about which investments are rigged to produce the highest returns in the various time frames, is conducted through social circles. These social circles are mapped by noting who tees off together on the golf course, who attends New Year's celebrations together, who attends business retreats together, who shares social dinners together, who flies to political retreats together, and apparently who sends their children to college together. I'm not really surprised. As a descendent of a lower-middle class blue collar family who was able to attend a private engineering school which was populated primarily with students whose family incomes were five to twenty times what mine was I found the social class differences very easy to recognize.

Goodling is only one of 150 graduates of Regent University currently serving in this administration, as Regent's Web site proclaims proudly, a huge number for a 29-year-old school.
Sounds like a form of nepotism--a quasinepotism--where the defining feature isn't family but social connection.

To be fair I don't think it's right to blame this on Pat Robertson and his gaggle. This has been going on in business since the beginning of time. The only thing which raises an alarm for me is that the system now automatically saps close to seventy percent of the common man's yearly working income. At no other point in history has the pyramid scheme been so easy to propagate with such a profitable margin at such a minimal risk to those in the appointed positions of assumed authority.

Re:Ruling class (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 7 years ago | (#18678669)

These are - of course - the functional lackeys to the super-billionaires and trillionaires. Those figures, who DO exist. Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are NOT the richest men in the world - that's a shadow-play.

These ultra-rich are few, well-conected, and blong to a network that began near Kiev, about 1400 years ago. That one rests upon the prior tyranny of the Macabees and Pharisees.

Re:Ruling class (1)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18679123)

What happened in Kiev 1400 years ago? I'm guessing split between the Catholics and the Orthodox.

In some ways I still suspect that the Catholic Church may be a shadow-play for the Jews. There are some parts of the New Testament which strike a neural chord of,"Keep repeating this until you believe it." Sure, I'm Catholic, but the fact remains that there's only one God and the Hebrew religion is, afaik, the longest running monotheistic institution on the planet. Maybe the eastern spiritual meditations espouse the same concepts but I don't see that they have placed a significant amount of importance in controlling modern day global government and global business. The way I see it there are two choices: believe in a higher power or don't. Once you believe in a higher power then the remaining considerations are all semantics. The only real defining feature after believing is whether or not people practice what they preach. I'm personally very entertained, as a homeless man, to attend daily Church services where the readings and intercessions note the value of charity given to those in need--and yet here I am, five months of daily attendance in a community that is not at all impoverished, still wondering when my technical qualifications are going to result in productive employment and a place to live.

These ultra-rich are few, well-conected, and blong to a network
Unless we happen to have the grace of God on our side we'll probably never get to play in that uber-secured sandbox and, unless we happen to have the sword of God in our hand, we wouldn't have a prayer at staying long. I do wonder how many levels could be perceived between that final inner circle and someone at my level--and where do, say, federal level politicians fit in? Where do world leaders (such as the Saudi [slashdot.org] king considered a week ago) fit in? Where do international bankers fit in? Where do Wall Street patriarchs fit in?

We have an idea who makes up the tip of the pyramid, we can see the bricks a few yards down (Buffett, Gates, Slim, and the other media recognized billionaires), and we can see the platforms in the lower half of the pyramid (so-called upper class, middle class, lower class, those making minimum wage, and those under the poverty line)... but can we put together a comprehensive map? The key to dissassembling a pyramid is not to start with the tip but rather to know how the bricks fit together.

Re:Ruling class (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18682691)

You're right. Nevermind the tip. Our work is on the foundation. The foundation is built on our backs. Self interest is the mortar that holds it together. (yeah, I know. REAL pyramids don't use mortar) With that in mind, I feel the need to ask what would happen if we turn our backs. If what I think would happen does happen, the tip will rise no higher than a grain of sand. There will be no tip(duh). No matter who or where these people are, they need us, not the other way around. It is we who built the pyramid and put them up there. We can take them right back down anytime. Good luck convincing anybody even a third of the way up, though :-)

Re:Ruling class (1)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18682943)

We can convince those a third of the way up and, in their hearts and minds, many of them have realized the system but aren't willing to sacrifice their worldly priveleges for the sake a few million underpriveleged and exploited people below them. In all reality I can't say that I really blame them. I don't particularly enjoy sleeping on a street bench either--especially not when it rains at night.

Re:Ruling class (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18683395)

...but aren't willing to sacrifice their worldly priveleges for the sake a few million underpriveleged and exploited people below them.

On a most basic, genetic level that simply does not compute outside the family. In fact, that would be unnatural. The cortex can scream all it wants about the ills of the world. The DNA is sitting back, sayin', "Pffft! Yeah, can it, clown. Get back into bed and start makin' babies! You're MY beatch." Do you remember the old joke about the brain and the sphincter fighting over who has real control of the body?

In all reality I can't say that I really blame them.

And I can't even blame the guys at the very tippy-top. Even they aren't in total control of themselves.

Re:Ruling class (1)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18693881)

I can't even blame the guys at the very tippy-top
I blame them when they deliberately neglect their social responsibilities in heedless pursuit of endless tippy-toppiness.

Re:Ruling class (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18694687)

Then I'm afraid you would be blaming nature for its very essence. I will grant that as humans who claim they have a free will, they should know better. What I'm beginning to doubt is the notion of a free will. I also have to ask why so many of us willfully go along. And the only thing I can point to are the very same natural forces. After you strip away all the phony philosophy and rationalizations, that's all that's left. It's the only thing where any degree of logic can still be applied without any bias or emotion. In light of this, I simply cannot/will not judge anyone. (Doesn't mean I won't mock and disparage them) The whole thing is very symbiotic. It takes two to tango, and all the other similar cliches apply. Without us there is no them. There is no tippy-top without a big bottom for support.

Re:Ruling class (1)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18695115)

The whole thing is very symbiotic
It was very symbiotic until we reached a point in history where taxes are collected automatically with no opportunity for the taxed to say "Enough!"

Animals do not typically enslave other animals. In our society we've been manipulated to think that, as long as we receive a paycheck, we're not slaves. This only works when every aspect of society depends upon a financial transaction. For example, in the dark ages, people probably spent 90% of their time, or better, in pursuits which had no direct relation to a standardized currency. In those times, if taxes became too high, there was real danger of an armed resistance or insurrection. Those feedback loops have been progressively neutralized as monetization has taken over daily life.

Re:Ruling class (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18696557)

Animals do not typically enslave other animals

Ok, not exactly [nicksspiders.com] (dupe!). But I think you understand the relationship. There are other parasitic actions like capturing prey and laying their eggs inside the body of the prey while keeping it alive. That is a form of slavery. I'm not very good at it, but for every single human act, you can find a natural motivation and a similar action in the animal world. That even includes things like suicide. A plant might allow itself to die to prevent a mold or fungus from infecting its offspring. A group of Indians in the Caribbean jumped off a cliff to avoid capture by the Europeans. And that of course leads to the ultimate question. How much are you willing to give up to avoid slavery? There is only one correct answer. For most people it's not very much, and that is what makes it so easy for the slave owners. This is our weakness and their strength. As long as they can hang that over our heads, they will always win. But again, make no mistake, they need us. That is our power, and if we were ever to work it together, it would become an irresistible force. Which answers your first statement. As long as we live, the opportunity will always be there awaiting us. It is patient. It has time.

Re:Ruling class (1)

HomelessInLaJolla (1026842) | more than 7 years ago | (#18696707)

they need us
I haven't felt very needed for the last ten years when managers have said,"You should be lucky to have a job" or women haven't given me a second look except to shoot the "Stop looking at me!" glare. I haven't felt very needed for the last year while walking around town, trying to maintain a clean and decent appearance in a suit, and nobody can stop to take the time to chat except to go through the worn out litany of "why don't you just get any job you can and start from the bottom (again)". I didn't feel very needed when I asked my management for a raise and was met with a demand (an official demand in my yearly goal setting) that I begin shelling out my own cash up front (with reimbursement only after I filled out all the proper paperwork) to take classes at the local community college (with no clear direction from management about exactly what they wanted me to take classes in) with only a 2% raise in before-tax salary.

No, they don't actually need us--or at least they ensure that the system is rigged to the point where they don't need a significant percentage of us. In that fashion all of us can be held with our feet to the fire to prevent anyone but the preselected chosen few from ever asking for a more fair cut of the profit.

I have $10 in my pocket. Do you know where I can buy some marijuana? It's either that or a beer, and I'd rather have the herb, because eventually, if nobody else does anything to improve this situation, I'm going to magick up a nuke and level all of SoCal out of sheer boredom and disgust.

Re:Ruling class (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 7 years ago | (#18682967)

A third of the way up?

That's Pelosi - who will keep her mansion in Pacific Heights, while the rest of us malcontents are shipped off to camps.

That's the deal those folks made.

Re:Ruling class (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18683193)

They'll never get me alive. Death(then a new life) before slavery. They'll have the body, but they won't have me.

Re:Ruling class (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 7 years ago | (#18684863)

That one rests upon the prior tyranny of the Macabees and Pharisees.

You know, I not much on these kinds of things. but when I saw this [wikimedia.org] , the ol' brain scan lit up pretty good on nothing more than the first glance. May I assume there's something more than a small desire to restore those borders? :-) I don't know how to convince people that they are supporting a, what?, 5,000 year old war?(though that part only 2,100 and change) Amazing that's it's been virtually continuous, and still no end in sight. Makes the States look even more like the mere muscle, nothing more, that they are. Their arrogance belies their insignificance. What a bunch of pawns.

Pat, Jerry, George... have competition PTFL%~D (1)

OldHawk777 (19923) | more than 7 years ago | (#18678397)

As my keeper always said,
never ignore the sleeper,
in any MF jail or cell.

As my keeper always said,
never wake the sleeper,
in any damn cell by bell,
just jump in mythic hell.

As my keeper always said,
never, never, never, never,
sleep, always peep and seek,
a beast awakes at our feet.

Crazy is as crazy does.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Hitler is as hitler was.
BDF-Pat is a BDF-George,
BDF-Jerry is BDF-Hitler,
BDF-... are always ....

If this make no sense to you,
then you have just woken from a
six year coma, and should be
mercifully put back to sleep,
until critical organs are
donated to keep them alive.

What is the difference between
medical cannibalism to sustain
life, and medical (bio/nano/...)
science to save lives. A mythic
god says let there be light, but
humanity chooses to walk in the
evil darkness fearing all unknowns,
because dogma says knowledge is bad?

What do we deserve for US?
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