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Multiply and conquer

Cyberdyne (104305) writes | more than 7 years ago

User Journal 5

Time to follow the herd, I suppose: Multiply. Go there, and find out who it was who sent me an e-mail last week - asking me what my e-mail address is...Time to follow the herd, I suppose: Multiply. Go there, and find out who it was who sent me an e-mail last week - asking me what my e-mail address is...

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (1)

Degrees (220395) | more than 7 years ago | (#18803259)

Have you seen the Worse Than Failure [worsethanfailure.com] web site? I'm thinking you need to forward that email to them (sans the embarrassing names).

FWIW, on the NGW List, the topic of GroupWise on SAN has been mentioned a few times this week. It was pointed out that one of the SAN vendors (think "initials") is truly clueless when it comes to designing the SAN for GroupWise. However, if you hide from them that it is GW and tell them to configure for an I/O heavy database application, they don't do something stupid like put twelve mail servers on the same RAID 5 array....

It's kind of sad. Years ago, I wrote a script that invoked an SNMP poller to pull statistics from 130 switches. Then, we cleared the statistics. Two weeks later, we knew which ports had zero traffic (and could be unplugged) and which ones had traffic. If *I* can do that, surely your people can do that. What a bunch of goofs.

Re:Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (1)

Cyberdyne (104305) | more than 7 years ago | (#18810805)

I don't know about this 'Worse Than Failure' nonsense, but it does seem like a good submission for the Daily WTF :-)

I suspect the SAN-GW fiasco was not so much "designed" by a consultant as improvised by the in-house clowns; we have one or two extremely competent guru-types, surrounded by guys who probably need help cleaning the correction fluid off their monitors. Having said that, even after having StorageTek, Sun and Novell people in, it's still one big RAID array, albeit a bigger, faster RAID 10 array instead. It's almost as if they're on commission...

It's kind of sad. Years ago, I wrote a cript that invoked an SNMP poller to pull statistics from 130 switches. Then, we cleared the statistics. Two weeks later, we knew which ports had zero traffic (and could be unplugged) and which ones had traffic. If *I* can do that, surely your people can do that. What a bunch of goofs.

Put it this way: would you trust these guys with SNMP access to anything? It's much safer to send someone round to look at the sockets - it's just a shame this guy missed a few and erred on the side of unplugging what he didn't know about, rather than the other way round. Fortunately, the major hospital in the area is part of this university, so with a bit of luck he'll end up in the ICU and get unplugged using similar logic... (Mind you, one of the lecturers is off sick at the moment, so his port won't have any traffic - but unplugging him would be bad news later.)

Then again, yesterday they shut the building's network down for the morning to recable it (even though everything in use was already on year-old Cat 5, plugged straight into a year-old Cisco 3750) - and somehow managed to disable the Dean of School's Cisco phone in the process...

It seems like a fairly typical university setup: 'invest' millions on fancy new Cisco switches everywhere? No problem. Recruit someone competent (hence expensive) to administer it? No chance: they'd rather keep hiring cheap people who screw up, then bringing in expensive consultants to fix it :-(

Re:Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (1)

Degrees (220395) | more than 7 years ago | (#18815967)

Bummer dude. We have it a little better here, in that even though the new hires don't get paid a lot, we are willing to pay for them to get training. In fact today, one of the new network techs just passed his CCNA. The biggest problem we have is that we do a lot with a little bit of staff, and this burns (some) people out.

One of my co-workers used to work for a university - he said he'd never go back. Like you say, the place was cheap. To top that, the client base was pretty obnoxious. If it was a nice working environment, he could handle cheap. But cheap *and* jerks - goodbye.

Regarding hiring consultants, there's an old quote from the cynic's lexicon: "We trust outsiders. They haven't lied to us yet."

Sorry (1)

dexterpexter (733748) | more than 7 years ago | (#18805479)

...to see you go.

Re:Sorry (1)

Cyberdyne (104305) | more than 7 years ago | (#18810469)

I'm not particularly "gone" - I'll still be browsing /. and probably posting whatever I post on Multiply on here as well, for the most part. The pages do seem nicer over on Multiply, but there are too many people here to make the jump lightly!
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