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Journal benhocking's Journal: Idaho "Skeptics" 17

Someone introduced me to this gem a while back, and I'm in a sharing mood, so, I give you The True Story of Idaho. I'd also like to point out that, per the text on the bottom, this was initially posted to rec.humor.d on December 14th, 1992. (Of course, global warming skeptics were already out in full force at this point - although most of them were still denying the very existence of global warming and not just whether it was natural or anthropogenic.)
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Idaho "Skeptics"

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  • And knew people who lived there, back when I grew up in BC just north of there.

    True about them (and Albertans) being in a bizarre denial about global warming, even though you can see mountaintops that used to have glaciers that existed for many hundreds of thousands of years that are no longer there.

    But some of them actually believe the world is only a few thousand years old.
    • Sure you did. You're obviously part of the conspiracy.
      • Well, my littlest sister did kick me in the back of my leg before one of those marathons, which meant I ran it in 3 hours 10 minutes instead of my usual 2 hours and 30 minutes (or less), so maybe she is part of the conspiracy ...
        • Wow, really? My PR is 3:52 (last year's Marine Corps Marathon), and I'm damn proud of it! One day I hope to qualify for the Boston (3:15 is currently the qualifying time for my age group), but that's probably still several years off. Of course, in another 3 years, 3:20 will be my qualifying time, and that 5 minutes makes it <sarcasm>so</sarcasm> much easier.

          Perhaps the real reason you ran so "poorly" is that it was only a nightmare.

          • My first marathon time (more than a mile above sea level) was 3 hours and 10 minutes. The next year I ran 2 hours and 30 minutes.

            Of course, at the time I would get up each morning and run 10 miles, come back, then run the 5 miles to school, run back 5 miles each way for lunch, and then had four paper routes to deliver.

            In a town where most of my customers were up long flights of stairs, since it's basically a valley between two mountain ranges.

            This may have affected my results, plus the fact that my track c
  • is that the deniers are reacting to the same marketing-based bad science that the global warming scientists were originally reacting to [blogspot.com], that it's possible to go so far out in left field with a message that it truly sounds like, to the untrained ear, you're blaming people for breathing.
    • I'm not aware of any "marketing-based bad science" that global warming scientists were responding to. Rather, there are some extreme environmentalists who are taking the global warming science and exaggerating/misrepresenting it. While this approach might get some temporary converts, this approach is obviously not helpful in the long run, as you can only maintain a lie for so long.

      On the other hand, those who are denying the science behind global warming fall into two camps: (1) Those (and here I'm thinki

      • I'm having trouble believing we can do something about it NOW! I see the last 10 years as pushing us past several non-redeemable tipping points: The melting of the tundras, the increase in melting of methylhydrates, the loss of temperate zone rain forest management, and the war on terror are all social, political, or physical tipping points that make the problem infinitely harder to solve. 30 years ago it would have been so easy- now we've got to contemplate ideas like my brother's EICE trailer (External
        • However, if I see I'm heading towards a waterfall, I'm going to start paddling in the opposite direction, regardless of how hopeless someone tells me it is. Even if I think they're probably right.
          • However, if I see I'm heading towards a waterfall, I'm going to start paddling in the opposite direction, regardless of how hopeless someone tells me it is. Even if I think they're probably right.

            Not me. I'm the type who'd look for the deepest part of the water- and start paddling for all I'm worth- that's what Al Faucett [statesmanjournal.com] did.

            In the context of global warming, that means accepting that it's going to get hotter. It also means doing what we can to use plant life to sequester carbon, move to alternative fu
  • Tangential, but then what would my life be without eccentricity?

    ({Reflections from a very quick datastream-dip}OR{Google can be so much fun})

    Google groups shows 337 posts for author:bobk AT gibdo.engr.washington.edu [tinyurl.com] (without the about qualifier); occurring between March 25 1992 - July 19 1993 = 481 days (dirty-n-head calc, may be off a day or two). You probably know this but engr.washington.edu is the Engineering School at the Univ. of Washington [washington.edu].

    Some one word filters of this search returns:

    • It was like a little /. koan.
      • I've been meaning to get back here with a bit of odd USENET history you'll probably find interesting, and may even have a use for. First consideration, I know for fact, Googlegroups does not possess it all in their DB, and at least for the part I am sure they do not possess, this is of no real concern, but has anecdotal utility.

        I had gotten a taste of the NGs I'd guess around early '83, from an CS grad student I'd made an acquaintance with at a Univ. neighborhood coffee house (no specifics). She had a par

        • I have to say, although it's a bit stream-of-consciousness, you do tend to provide some rather unique information. I'm never quite sure what to make of some of your postings, but at the very least they entertain me, exercise my brain a bit, and provide me with information I was unaware of. In case you're wondering why they confuse me, I suppose it's because I'm used to most posts having some sort of primary point, where yours are more stories that allow the reader to create his or her own point out of it. I
          • thanks, for a long time in my life, I used to fret and brood over my inability to express myself properly. I no longer fret so much about it, as i slowly came to realise it is a part of me, which is interrelated with an ability to condense several steps into one big leap intuitively. It has generally served me well, but at times, still causes me great consternation, when I find myself out on a limb on a dead-end. This is currently a bit of a personal embarrassment at the other namespace we crossed paths.

  • Again, very low and asymmetric, but I've been meaning to point this out to you anyway.

    Have you this clown's TouTube offerings [youtube.com]? More specifically this excerpt [youtube.com]. 'Moo-ham-med' and 'Sodom'? It is this practise of sending the village idiots to D.C. which is a primary cause that the usage of the derogatory term 'cracker' persists.

    I doubt that this is any of your doing, but it wouldn't hurt to spread the word...

    • And, yes, I voted for Weed, not Goode. (I'm sure you can imagine the Goode/Weed jokes.) Prior to the 2006 election, I didn't know just how bad he was, however. I was thoroughly embarrassed for our state when he started making all of his Muslim comments. :(

Love may laugh at locksmiths, but he has a profound respect for money bags. -- Sidney Paternoster, "The Folly of the Wise"

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