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DSG: Vista is Killing Retail PC Sales.

twitter (104583) writes | more than 6 years ago

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As the first year of Vista draws to a close, the full effect on retail sales is starting to show. Many are reporting the

As the first year of Vista draws to a close, the full effect on retail sales is starting to show. Many are reporting the poor performance and complaints of European retail giant DSG. From the DSG report itself:

PC World delivered good sales performance against a tough prior year comparative in the back to school period. The reduction in laptop stocks that arose out of disappointing sales of VISTA related products and a changing sales mix have reduced gross margins by around 2% in the computing division, impacting Group profits by around £20 million in the first half. Stocks are now at normal levels and we expect to recover some of the lost margin through the second half.

In other words, they had to dump hardware to get people to buy software they don't want. We shall see if they have done anything different to back their optimistic projections.

I expect results like this and worse to be reported by all the major retailers. DSG did not mention sales of Vista itself, which should have been even worse than hardware sales. The channels were stuffed and no one wanted it. That costs money.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 6 years ago | (#21057827)

willhill williamhill2 at cox.net [brlug.net]
Fri Oct 12 23:55:03 CDT 2007

There are Zealots among us. No, I've never seen a flame war about Vi and Emacs or any other silliness here. That's trivial by numbers and substance. There's a much larger shared faith than that. It's so prevalent that people take it for granted and rarely question it's basic principles.

What I have seen everywhere, even here, is a blind faith and advocacy of Microsoft that beggars description. They accept what M$ says, despite direct contradiction by their EULA. They make excuses for obvious failures and are so grateful for what works that they do as they are told. Worse, they belittle and make life hard for those who would do without their poison. The apparatus consists of those who benefit directly and those who should know better. I suppose that's what a billion dollar per month advertising budget buys, but it's creepy like the worst of cults.

Take, for example, the blind faith of LSU's network administrators. When I told them that M$ users would lose nothing from LSU's new AD policy because M$ already demanded such control through their EULA, the network administrator told me, "there's no technical means to enforce that EULA." I pointed out that he could not possibly know that because he can't inspect, modify and compile the OS himself. Despite ample written and technical evidence to the contrary, he has taken some salesman's word without need for further checks. For the sensitive information he's trusted with, that attitude is amazing. Scientologists must view the brainwash with envy.

Brainwashed administrators make life hard for people who want their software freedom. Sure, they can be respectful and polite, but their policies add up to oppression. At LSU they have launched "secure" wireless they knew would make things hard on users of Mac, older versions of Windows and free software. We are all familiar with internet providers who's "support" consists mainly of people who read you a script for Outlook Express or Internet Explorer. At best, people making decisions like that figure it's OK to make life hard on free software users because free software users are smart enough to deal with it. At the worst, they are happy to inflict the damage. Every religion knows what's best for you and has Zealots that delight in cruelty which directly contradicts their faith.

When I report these things here, I was baraged with people who defended LSU's policy and M$ itself. "I've never had a problem" some said while others defended the move as a way of taming LSU's worm infested networks and PCs. In the past, I've been accused of being "out of touch" for thinking Windows was so second rate it's unusable. That's more amazing than the blind faith of Microsoft administrators because people here should know better. The contradictions are in their face to the point that I'm always, "preaching to the choir." They know better as they recommend I "super hype" myself with Vista and document the damage. "Try it, you might like it!" Filthy.

Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for people who can manage Microsoft systems. They deal with legal and technical complexity that boggles the mind of a simple engineer like myself. Their software comes from dozens of vendors and has to be tested exhaustively because it does not always fit their purposes and often does not play nice with itself and software from other vendors. All of those vendors each have their own set of restrictions, terms of use and payment schedules which tax the record keeping ability of the nation's finest clerks, accountants and lawyers. The voodoo of port blocks, anti-virus and other ineffective measures require the skills of the world's best shamans. In a hostile world where networks choke, individual machines do inexplicable things and die, and attrition is reaching levels that rival the black plague, the Microsoft administrator somehow sits and inspires confidence. That act is what separates the successful professional from those who just know things.

Woe to those who point out that the act is hollow. How dare people like Peter Quinn suggest that the state of Massachusetts might be better off with free and open formats for their records! Bill Gate's Holy Inquisition made short work of that poor man, his department and state government. Salem has a few good stakes left for burning reputations and common sense after all.

The good news is that the practitioners of the IT faith really don't care what tools they are using. In parts of Europe the difference between a devout Christian and a devout Muslim is a line where crusades and conquests reached some kind of equilibrium. Software wars are fought over money instead of eternal souls, so shifts are much quicker. As the technical, legal and economic impossibility of the M$ monoculture become more obvious, the trickle of Mac and Linux converts will become a flood. Then the orthodox faith will be free software and the tables will be irrevocably turned.

The Zealots won't really go away, but they might not be as bad without an evil company like M$ pushing a culture of greed and corruption. Free software is all about user control and choice. It's hard to be ugly about that.

On Thursday 11 October 2007 7:28 am, Fernando Vilas wrote:
>I like that PostgreSQL focuses so much on standards compliance
> to aid in portability, both in terms of ANSI SQL and POSIX interfaces, and
> I tend to use it for my own projects, but I've used others and I don't
> engage in zealotry about it.

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