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GENTOO: Keeping Boxes Up to Date in a Sane Way

eno2001 (527078) writes | more than 6 years ago

User Journal 4

I posted my current approach to keeping my Gentoo boxes up to date on the Gentoo Forums. Just linking here for anyone on Slashdot who might be interested. The general gist of it is using GNU screen to try and make some of the update process a bit more automatic.I posted my current approach to keeping my Gentoo boxes up to date on the Gentoo Forums. Just linking here for anyone on Slashdot who might be interested. The general gist of it is using GNU screen to try and make some of the update process a bit more automatic.

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Arrgh (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 6 years ago | (#22336906)

Gentoo.

I am SUCH a deb baby!

Responded (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 6 years ago | (#22344216)

over on Gentoo forums. Hope paludis doesn't offend you. ;)

Re:Responded (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 6 years ago | (#22354628)

Hmmm... I'd not heard of Paludis before. I'm a little leary of using it at this point because I'm only now barely becoming familiar with Portage. But the bigger question in my mind is... what the hell happened with Gentoo regarding DRobbins. When I went to the Paludis site and poked around I found what appear to be the signs of some kind of change of the guard and an ensuing feud. Since I'm a little late to the Gentoo party, I know none of the history behind that. I have seen a few comments here and there on the Gentoo forums that say, "...ever since then Gentoo has become a total mess and I'm leaving". Any idea what happened?

Re:Responded (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 6 years ago | (#22354958)

I'll give you a brief, erroneous sketch.
In Teh Beginning, Robbins was on some old distro. He went off into BSD land, and liked their ports system.
Robbins came back to Linux and wrote emerge, and a zippy little community was founded, around 5+ years ago.
Robbins got bored, went off and did other stuff, including a stint at Microsoft.
In the meantime (around 2 years ago), this gnarly Scot named Ciaran McCreesh started from scratch in C++ to replace the spaghetti-monster disaster that emerge had become. You understand that .ebuild files are just tarted-up bash scripts with an event model on them, and emerge/paludis are tools to parse metadata in the .ebuilds, resolve dependency graphs, and manage the overall package installation.
McCreesh is one of those really smart, yet painfully blunt sorts of people. Robbins is far more social. Their personalities go together like George Bush and a speech (without saying which is Bush).
My $0.02 is that people need to be less emotional, and McCreesh is doing Teh Right Thing. But he has pissed in a multitude of cereal bowls on the way.
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