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5 comments

weak (1)

Bill Dog (726542) | more than 6 years ago | (#22777612)

The EULA's aren't talking about backups of installed images, they're talking about backups of the installation media.

But it sounds like you had a pre-planned conclusion, that you were gonna reach no matter what.

Re:weak (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#22778094)

The EULA's aren't talking about backups of installed images, they're talking about backups of the installation media.

That's not at all clear from the license text which refers simply to "the software". And even if it only refers to the downloadable installer, that would mean you can't make any backups of it and would have to download a separate copy for each machine you wish to put it on. That's not really a lot better. Again, that's when following the strict letter of the "agreement", not when using common sense. However, contract law isn't built on common sense - it's built on the strict letter of agreements.

But it sounds like you had a pre-planned conclusion, that you were gonna reach no matter what.

I had a hypothesis, Googled until I found support for it (which took about 5 minutes), and wrote it up. I actually found more restrictive wording from Microsoft but didn't want people to get too hung up on the actors and miss the point. I wanted to draw attention to a potential issue, even if it hasn't been a problem in reality (yet?). I don't think the average corporate legal department is likely to say, "oh, that's silly, these agreements are probably non-binding and we probably wouldn't have to comply with this part anyway."

WTF? (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 6 years ago | (#22777994)

For example, here's a snippet of the Adobe Integrated Runtime (AIR) End User License Agreement:
Isn't this a runtime? Don't runtime's get installed on every computer? Just like Adobe Reader is on damned near every computer in usage? Why would you care how many computers have a runtime installed? Runtime's are never money-makers, although licensed dll's can be. But then they don't get their own runtime installer.

OMFG!

Re:WTF? (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 6 years ago | (#22778200)

You're completely correct. The only thing possibly in their favor is that it's for a beta, and maybe they intended very limited distribution for it. I didn't check whether the production version was under a similarly anti-business license.

At any rate, I didn't really mean to single out Adobe. That was just a convenient example of the kind of wording that irked me, and there are plenty of others just like it (or worse).

Re:WTF? (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 6 years ago | (#22782438)

For the record (because on slashdot, nobody cares):
I didn't figure you meant to single them out, it was the shear hilarity. I wonder if we could get a class action or something, or in some way use this to single out how F*ing stupid the whole EULA concept is...

I mean, if they want to get me to sign something that they then countersign, I'm all for an agreement like that, but this is F*ing ridiculous
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