10101001 10101001's Journal: Irreducibale Complexity

God is All-Mighty. To be All-Mighty, God must be infinite.

An infinite being is irreducibly complex in so far that an infinite being could not be made finite. Hence, any substantive representation of an infinite being would be infinite.

The Bible is a representation of God. The Bible is finite.

Hence, the Bible cannot be a substantive representation of an All-Mighty God.

This either leaves God as less than All-Mighty (and specifically finite) or leaves all holy texts as inrepresentative of their respective infinite deities.

Durr

[Captain Splendid]

Hence, the Bible cannot be a substantive representation of an All-Mighty God.

I don't think the most hardcore fundamentalist would disagree with you on that point, it really boils down to a matter of degrees as the counterargument is that, while obviously not the totality of God, the Bible gets all the basic parts right.

Think about it this way: God would communicate with finite humans in a finite way. Hence, 10 commandments, a few Beatitudes, and a scattering of interferences performed on certain ar

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[10101001 10101001]

Hence, the Bible cannot be a substantive representation of an All-Mighty God.

I don't think the most hardcore fundamentalist would disagree with you on that point, it really boils down to a matter of degrees as the counterargument is that, while obviously not the totality of God, the Bible gets all the basic parts right.

You're obviously missing my argument. To reduce God's message into its "basic parts" would take a part of an infinite God and reduce it down to an infinite message. Any finite message wou

Infinity

[johnsonav]

Hence, any substantive representation of an infinite being would be infinite.

I think you've got a mistake in your reasoning. A line is infinite, yet I can describe it fully in the statement "y=mx+b".

In fact, you made a statement about the nature of God: "To be All-Mighty, God must be infinite." You just said something substantive about the nature of an infinite God, using a finite number of words. Why can't the Bible do the same?

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[10101001 10101001]

Hence, any substantive representation of an infinite being would be infinite.

I think you've got a mistake in your reasoning. A line is infinite, yet I can describe it fully in the statement "y=mx+b".

I guess that means I cannot just use "irreduibly complex" to explain away things without thinking.

In fact, you made a statement about the nature of God: "To be All-Mighty, God must be infinite." You just said something substantive about the nature of an infinite God, using a finite number of words. Why can't the

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[johnsonav]

The problem is, the Bible is designed to say sufficiently substantive things about the nature of God that one can directly or indirectly learn God's will to carry it out. God's will is the substance being discussed.

Okay. I think you're saying something along these lines: God's will is infinitely complex. Any attempt to completely describe the nature (or "rules") of God's will would, necessarily, contain at least one exception, where your potential description didn't accurately describe God's will. But that exception would have at least one more exception. Etc...

So, to accurately describe God's will, you would have to have a description of infinite length. The Bible is obviously not of infinite length, so cannot be an