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iPhone 3G, Crackberry, or Android?

tomhudson (43916) writes | more than 5 years ago

Cellphones 19

My Motorola V635 is getting long in the tooth, with almost 4,700 hours on it.

Everyone I know who has a crackberry loves them; everyone I know who has an iPhone loves them; obviously I don't know anyone who has an Android - so, which one would YOU opt for?

Right now, between the crackberry and the iPhone, I'm leaning towards the iPhone. Any reason why I would be better off with an Android (they're coming out here June 2nd) ..

My Motorola V635 is getting long in the tooth, with almost 4,700 hours on it.

Everyone I know who has a crackberry loves them; everyone I know who has an iPhone loves them; obviously I don't know anyone who has an Android - so, which one would YOU opt for?

Right now, between the crackberry and the iPhone, I'm leaning towards the iPhone. Any reason why I would be better off with an Android (they're coming out here June 2nd) ..

Also, are there any "gotchas" I should be aware of?

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Get one of those bio-phone implants (1)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27884303)

Also, are there any "gotchas" I should be aware of?

Don't forget to leave your iPhone off the hook so that you have time for living.

I know one guy with an Android (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 5 years ago | (#27884585)

he likes it. but that's all I know. not much help, sorry.

Yeah, I love my iPhone... (1)

johndiii (229824) | more than 5 years ago | (#27885139)

Nothing that I can think of, in the way of gotchas. I have gotten pretty fast with the on-screen keyboard - fast enough to take notes in meetings.

Battery life can be short - if I use it a lot, I go through 90% charge in a day. Shorter than my old cell, but I am using it for email, internet access, and a music player. So it's kind of what I expect.

I'd like the ability to cut and paste text, but I hear that's coming.

Re:Yeah, I love my iPhone... (1)

arb (452787) | more than 5 years ago | (#27891111)

Cut and paste works very nicely in the 3.0 beta. 3.0 fixes a lot of the minor quibbles I have had with the iPhone in fact.

My vote for the berry... (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 5 years ago | (#27885423)

I for one am quite fond of devices that I can touch-dial without looking. I use a blackberry pearl myself and am quite fond of it - though I'm generally not a touch screen person anyways.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Though from my vantage point it does seem like the used blackberries (even very current models) are generally a fair bit more affordable than used iphones...

I'm in the crackberry camp (1)

Scott Lockwood (218839) | more than 5 years ago | (#27888787)

Having google maps at my fingertips is fucking awesome. Having FaceBook at my fingertips is also sadly awesome. lol

One guy at work did Android for a while, but eventually ditched it in favor of an iPhone.

Re:I'm in the crackberry camp (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 5 years ago | (#27906327)

I'm in the iPhone camp and have both of these apps on my iPhone.

The only reason I'd flip to android is that I can write java apps to the android... if you want to write an app to your iPhone, its objective-C, which I know you probably prefer, Barbie, but I'm a java guy ;)
Another advantage of iPhone is maturity. The androids are still level 1.0. I like to wait for the next gen (which is why I have an iPhone 3G, and never had the original iPhone).

Re:I'm in the crackberry camp (1)

Scott Lockwood (218839) | more than 5 years ago | (#27906523)

Isn't 1.5 out? I thought Android just released version 1.5?

Exchange in your org at all? (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 5 years ago | (#27902891)

If you're going to be using Exchange in your org, it's not a bad idea to consider a winmo phone. However, the latest iPhone really does seem to have all of the best features on the market, except possibly that whole tether thing (unless that's working too).

Re:Exchange in your org at all? (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27904179)

I believe that in a few years, market pressure will force the carriers to allow tethering. As for Exchange, I've never used Outlook, and really don't plan to, since that would mean using Windows as more than checking browser compatibility. I'm leaning towards the iPhone, but only because I really don't want to spend a lot of time thinking about which is best - just give me something that works, does what I want, and is a good deal in terms of airtime, etc. After all, it's just a phone :-) and gps.... and camera ... and music player ... and web browser ... and PITA to change batteries (I think they want you to upgrade every 3 years and toss your old phone).

Re:Exchange in your org at all? (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 5 years ago | (#27906357)

Ah but! Ah but! (yay for the interwebs, where one can make spurious claims as answer for a question... I love "ah buts")

Aren't you the one who's getting ready for a career change? And if you make a move into an existing org, are you really going to be concerned about if they happen to use Exchange (it could be hosted, it could be... &etc), and if they _happen_ to use Exchange, you know the team-mates are liable to want to use all the functionality of that particular meta-server. So there is a chance that you'll be using Outlook on the desktop in the near future. Slim, like .1% chance, but it's a possibility.

I'm just saying, it's possible that there will be a need for Exchange Compat in the next two years.

Granted, let's flip this around:
[It's hard to have a discussion on /. without mentioning specifics, for starters, so I figure we're just conversing...]
iPhones can sync to any number of calendar services, via either iCal or other formats.
iPhones can sync to Exchange without batting an eye, so you don't need a WinMo for that reason.
I've got Blackberry users on my Exchange and I'm [NOT paying|have NOT paid] for BES, most of my users don't know what a calendar (on Exchange mind you) is, and hardly any use the contact features of Outlook, so I'm not saying you have to use it by any stretch (like that was ever a question).
Email is just text and a protocol, every phone now does email.

So:
Do you want a do-it-all "gizmo" or a stick that lets you talk to people when you're outside? I prefer it to be a stick, but given the needs of the office to be on-call 24/7 (yay for small-shops and IT :/ ) I need all those extra gizmo like features.

Do you do a lot with digital photography to the extent that having a camera and multitouch on the phone is going to be a boon? Notice how I'm avoiding all mention of megapixels and video driver quality in that question.

Are you going to be using the GPS on your phone a lot? (My WinMo came unlocked in this regard, and googlemaps is just fricking awesome - better than lasers on heads imho)

Now, I'm assuming, you being as much of a tech-nerd as I am, that you'll be assured of using the browser on the phone, so in that regard I say MAXIMIZE SCREEN REAL ESTATE, but you already knew that. So whatever you get, has to have the biggest baddest screen on a phone you'll carry.

If you've had a touchscreen before, you are almost de-facto limited to only touchscreens going forward; by the same logic, if you've not had one, and you don't have a need for one, stay away from them for the moment. They're too addictive. Everyone I've known to leave a touchscreen is crying after three days, but they hate the hassle of configuring yet another phone, so don't do any swap outs.

I'm ignoring the battery. I've only ever replaced two cell batteries for the nearly 8 years I've carried batteries, each one lasting the length of my contract or the lifetime of that phone, so I personally consider it a moot point. And I'm willing to trade Apple's style for the nonreplacable battery. My cover keeps sliding off this stupid phone, and I would hate to see that on an iPhone.

So that only leaves the music player. What's the thoughts on this? I prefer tiny stone mp3 players, the kind that you can barely tell they're an mp3 player, so avoid the thought of using my phone for this. I don't associate phones and long headset cords, but that's just me. So, if you're itching for a good mp3-player/phone combo, that's one thing, but just to get it because it can, is another, ya know?

I'm thinking the iPhone just has all the features most of us want, so I would say the iPhone. It's got the [email, web, touch, camera, music] that we all love in our phones, but I don't know anything about it's GPS (responsiveness, locked-down-edness, etc) and _I_ am already on ATT, so that's not an issue for me either.

Ok, I know you've mentioned an aversion to WinMo not out of spite, but just to stay away from Redmond from lack of need, but have you looked at any of the HTC phone offerings? They're sharp, even tho they have some rough edges. At least Apple polishes theirs.

[groan, two attempted jokes in the last two sentences, really? I'm just not funny, I suppose]

Ok, so that's my thoughts, and I'm about six months out from having the same discussion, so I'm listening too!

Re:Exchange in your org at all? (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27920839)

One of my friends gave me the nickel tour of his iPhone yesterday. He absolutely loves it. It does everything I want, and he sold me on it.

Then, back home I was walking my dogs, and that's when I realized that none of the smart-phones would survive 6 months with me. My motorola v635 has been smashed into concrete and all the parts (batter cover, battery, case, front flashing, flash memory) flying all over the place in the rain, and it was a matter of seconds to snap it all back together and power up. It's always falling onto concrete, asphalt, or any other surface, and it just keeps running.

It's got over 4,600 hours on it in less than 3 years, and since I stopped using the quick charger, the battery has pretty much fully recovered, so I can still talk for a couple of hours at a stretch.

A cracked screen is a lousy thing to have to deal with, and I'd be replacing the screen at least a couple of times a year. I guess that, for me, a smartphone isn't as smart an idea as I thought it would be. It's too bad, but I'm probably better off with a data stick for my lappy (but they really gouge you on data plans for them).

Re:Exchange in your org at all? (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 5 years ago | (#27923719)

Ok, well hold up a second. I've dropped my AT&T Tilt probably 30 times or better, often in the middle of a hand motion, so velocity or arcs are already involved, and while I've never intentionally stepped on it with a boot, I've stepped on the screen often enough barefooted. For a reference, I'm 6'0, 245 (was 290 a scant 6 months ago), and have a father-in-law that's a welder, and a father that's in home construction as a General Contractor, so I've had it with me one too many times where I've had sweat pouring down my body enough to drench my clothes, or out in the rain, or while carrying heavy loads. through it all, the biggest problem I've had is a little chipped paint around the screen, mostly from keys.

Saying all that to say this:

They're a little hardier than they may seem.
Some are indeed built better than others.
I still like my HTC stuff, so I want you to make sure you try them at the local shop before leaving.

What kind of dogs? I've two rescue mutts. We're pretty sure they're both terrier breeds, but ones 48 and the other is about 55. They think they make great lap dogs, but they make better lay-at-your-feet dogs. My wife picks on me because I told her she couldn't have one (I was going to get her the one as a surprise, and she came home with our older one, go figure), so when we came across the younger one, a year later, and I saw it's eyes (isn't it always about the eyes?), I just had to take it home with me.

The younger is so tempermental at time, but when I show up, all is right with the world in her eyes. The older one likes to get attention, but the younger is my sidekick.

Daisy and Sally. Both spayed. No pics on the web atm, sorry.

Re:What kind of dogs (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27946699)

W Up until last year, I had 3 - A St. Bernard - Heidi (she got sick, had a wasting disease in her hind muscles, a massive infection, and was around 9 years old), a Newfie - Bear, and a wolf (maybe some dog in there somewhere) - Toby. They're all rescued/dumped on me, because everyone knows I like big dogs (anything over 100 pounds).

And yes, the eyes are very expressive. When I saw the St. Bernard, she was sitting in her cage giving me the "What sort of idiot are you to even think of not taking me home?" look.

She took up most of the bed, and after my first Newfie died of cancer (12 years old), and I got the other two dogs, the bed got REALLY crowded.

Toby was the big problem - it took 8 months to get him to be able to stay alone in the house w/o soiling within a few minutes, and it took a few years before he (mostly) stopped chewing up everything. For example, he's chewed through the legs of two chairs while people were sitting in them.

In the end, they're still worth it - even if he DID eat my favourite shoes!

Re:What kind of dogs (1)

drachenstern (160456) | more than 5 years ago | (#27954887)

Oh no!

Yeah, those big galutes ;-)

Anyways, off to work!

G1 vs iPhone vs Blackberry. (1)

Randle_Revar (229304) | more than 5 years ago | (#27902981)

My brother has a G1, his girlfriend has an iPhone and a friend of mine has a Blackberry (I have a Moto v360. It can play MP3 ringtones, wow!). The Google phone has a worse google maps app than the iPhone, and the aGPS isn't as good either. The Android Facebook app is a pale shadow of the Facebook apps for the iPhone and Blackberry. In general, Android has the most rough edges, although my brother still likes it.

Re:G1 vs iPhone vs Blackberry. (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27904197)

I'm leaning towards the iPhone, though the blackberries are still in contention. As you pointed out, the android is still rough, and I don't plan on doing any android development (or blackberry or iPhone either, for that matter) in the next year anyways - web stuff doesn't care what platform you're on.

Storm (1)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907875)

One of my co-workers just traded back the office Storm for a Curve. The Storm kept crashing, it would overlay windows so they were both unreadable, and, on occassion, it would list every email as unreadable due to "security." The only way she got past that was having the IT Dude wipe it and start over. So, I would be hesitant to go with the storm. Knowing your love of openness, I'd go with the Android. Knowing your love of gadgetry, I'd go with the iPhone.

stay away from OpenMoko (1)

Jerry Smith (806480) | more than 5 years ago | (#27926475)

It's just not functional enough yet.

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