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Anyone out there with the Motorola Droid-X?

Shakrai (717556) writes | more than 4 years ago

User Journal 8

The only reason I haven't yet gotten a smartphone is because of Verizon's nickel and diming. I primarily want one for the usual smartphone functionality but I'd also like the ability to tether for some lightweight usage. Not looking to use tethering as a replacement for my home internet connection or even for web surfing. My desire is to be able to ssh and/or rdp into the office wh

The only reason I haven't yet gotten a smartphone is because of Verizon's nickel and diming. I primarily want one for the usual smartphone functionality but I'd also like the ability to tether for some lightweight usage. Not looking to use tethering as a replacement for my home internet connection or even for web surfing. My desire is to be able to ssh and/or rdp into the office when I'm in the field. It seems kind of absurd that I should have to pay $30/mo extra for the ability to do something I could easily accomplish with a POTS line and modem. It's also absurd that Verizon expects you to pay more for the privilege of talking to an Exchange server. I guess the data packets from Exchange weigh more than the packets from a pop3 server or some such.

I've been told that the Exchange data requirement isn't actually enforced for non-Blackberry devices. Found a few posts on various forums where people claimed to successfully sync with Exchange on the $30 data plan. I've also been told that you can tether Android devices using third party applications such as PDAnet without paying Verizon's additional $30 fee. It's against their TOS but they won't find out about it unless you consume an "excessive" amount of bandwidth. Not real worried about doing that with the occasional ssh/rdp session. Can anyone confirm these two points? If they are indeed true then I'll probably be ordering the Droid-X soon.

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Arrrrrg Verizon! (1)

socz (1057222) | more than 4 years ago | (#33063278)

They're all a pain in the butt, but there are ways around it. You should visit the PPC Geeks and XDA forums if you haven't already. They'll literally walk you through everything you need to know.

I personally have WinMo and Android devices, the EVO being the best of all. But each has its own virtues: winmo although falling behind, has a lot of experienced programmers behind it. Android has its get up and go easiness to use. Although very similar, I prefer android for daily use (except no keyboard!) and winmo for providing my inet to nettop and friends.

gl!

Re:Arrrrrg Verizon! (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#33063604)

I despise Verizon. They are just the best of the worst. AT&T is more evil than Verizon -- they are just as arrogant regarding customer service and have made changes to their network in the past that broke service for existing customers (dedicating 850mhz to data services at the expense of those who were relying on it for voice connectivity for instance) Verizon has never done anything that shitty. T-Mobile is a great option if you live in an urban area but they get squashed in the coverage department in the rest of the country. I also get a 22% discount on Verizon services through work, which makes dealing with them a little easier.

I don't mind dealing with workarounds, as long as they exist. I actually don't blame Verizon for the desire to keep p2p users/large downloaders off their wireless network -- better to guarantee performance for 95% of your userbase at the expense of 5% -- I just find it absurd that they think I should pay more money based on the source of that data. All I want to tether for is ssh and rdp. I shouldn't have to pay $30 more for that privilege.

Re:Arrrrrg Verizon! (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#33063930)

If you're really desperate, check your home internet plan - a lot of them used to include 10 hours of dial-up with their high-speed plans - maybe you still have it? After all, for shelling into a box, even 33kbit/sec is more than fast enough.

Yep, I just checked with mine - 10 hours of dial-up included. So if you have a lappy with a modem jack, you should be okay.

Re:Arrrrrg Verizon! (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#33064466)

The problem with that is that you don't always have access to a POTS line.

I loved my old T-Mobile Motorola phone. Using Motorola's software it had the ability to act as a modem. It could only connect at 9600 baud but that was ample for telnet or ssh. All it cost you was minutes. Heck, I even used it to surf the web a few times when I was in a pinch and needed to look something up. Just turned off images in my web browser and was good to go.

Data plan (1)

Zak3056 (69287) | more than 4 years ago | (#33063898)

FWIW, the only devices that actually require the high tier data plan are Blackberry devices connected to BES (and even that is changing). Anything else talking to Exchange is going to be doing so over http/https, so barring VZW implementing some kind of DPI to specifically block these connections (which sounds like a money loser any way you slice it), you're not going to have problems.

BTW, I agree with you about VZW... it's like that South Park episode, "The Entity." Yeah, you're getting fucked up the ass, but hey, it's still better than flying (i.e. AT&T, Sprint, etc).

Re:Data plan (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#33064498)

BES is some scary shit when you learn what it's capable of doing. If your employer desires they have the ability to log every single SMS that goes through your phone. All fine and dandy when they own the device but all of the people I know with Blackberries use their personal ones to connect into the system at work.

I couldn't figure out how they'd enforce the Exchange requirement either unless it was done with software on the phone. Kinda hard to block ssl and still have a functional device.

I liked T-Mobile a lot. They were an absolute pleasure to deal with. One year contracts, $40/mo for a thousand minutes when VZW and AT&T only gave you 450 for that pricepoint, etc, etc. I only left them when I moved somewhere that they didn't have service. Tried to go back to them when they put up a new tower only to discover that they eliminated MyFaves and now charge nearly as much as Verizon on a per-minute basis. How they expect to get away with that when you look at their network footprint is beyond me. If I'm going to pay that much I might as well have Verizon's network at my disposal.....

Re:Data plan (1)

Zak3056 (69287) | more than 4 years ago | (#33067144)

BES is some scary shit when you learn what it's capable of doing. If your employer desires they have the ability to log every single SMS that goes through your phone. All fine and dandy when they own the device but all of the people I know with Blackberries use their personal ones to connect into the system at work.

No joke. Internally, we handle that very simply: anyone who wants to use a personal blackberry is informed about what we can do, and that once they enterprise activate... their phone basically belongs to me. Most people don't care, sadly enough (though I did have one guy get VERY nervous when I mentioned the ability to audit text messages. He went back to his carrier and got an iphone instead. I still chuckle about that from time to time).

Re:Data plan (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#33068006)

I have a friend who has a certain less than legal habit [wikipedia.org] and whom uses SMS to supply that habit. The look on her face when I told her about BES was priceless. She bought a droid the very next day.....

At least your company is honest enough to tell people this. Kudos to them for that.

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