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Certifications ?

forged (206127) writes | more than 11 years ago

Science 12

So, which certification(s) do you have ? Are you damn proud of it ?

  • A. Adobe
  • B. Cisco
  • C. Compaq
  • D. IBM
  • E. Juniper
  • F. Microsoft
  • G. Novell
  • H. Oracle
  • I. Red Hat
  • J. SANS Institute
  • K. Sun Microsystems
  • Other (details ?)
  • None (Too good to bother / I don't work in the Tech Industry)
So, which certification(s) do you have ? Are you damn proud of it ?
  • A. Adobe
  • B. Cisco
  • C. Compaq
  • D. IBM
  • E. Juniper
  • F. Microsoft
  • G. Novell
  • H. Oracle
  • I. Red Hat
  • J. SANS Institute
  • K. Sun Microsystems
  • Other (details ?)
  • None (Too good to bother / I don't work in the Tech Industry)

I deliberately left the actual certification titles off because there are way too many to list here, and because the level can vary widely. But feel free to brag if you like 8*)

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None (1)

baldass_newbie (136609) | more than 11 years ago | (#5505351)

Almost went for Oracle once. In fact, just got the latest 'Oracle University' curriculum with this month's Oracle Magazine. Anyway, I almost went, but they changed it when I was half through. That pretty much ended there.

And, well, I guess I could brag...
Just built something like 3 tools for our firm in Lotus/Domino even though I knew no LotusScript or Domino configurations before January.
In fact, I think I just nailed down security.
Yes. I know. It's Domino. Nothing fancy like Java or Oracle.
But it does WORK. That, I have found, is far more important to business users.
Now back to finding 3rd party hosting...

# Other (details ?) (1)

GMontag (42283) | more than 11 years ago | (#5505371)


Rotary Wing Pilot (Commercial and Instrument), Army Aviator, NBC Instructor, Tank Crewman, Tank Turret Mechanic.

Yes, quite proud of them all ;-)

Cisco and Microsoft (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 11 years ago | (#5505417)

Yep, I'm a heathen.

MCSE and CCNP..sorta. Got a couple of tests to go.

Also going for cisco's AVVID cert...the name escapes me right now.

Too damn good. (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 11 years ago | (#5505524)

Too damn legacy, to boot!

I have some sort of "MekkaB is down with Devices Drivers on AIX" piece of paper, but they don't make a certification for Code-Whore nor Bit-Badass.


none (1)

heliocentric (74613) | more than 11 years ago | (#5505536)

And furthermore, if I ever make it back to a position where I have influcent in the hiring process I will deduct points for those who think they can use certifications in place of something. It does not count for any time of experience with a product, it does not count as college education, it does not count as an really high expertise level.

It means you paid some money and after enough tries you passed a test. Judging by the number of motorists I see, that process does not always produce skilled people.

If I have two applicants that equate to be the same regarind ecuation and work history and general attitude during an interview then perhaps the person with the certifications might win, if only due to some sort of professionalism it might bring. But finding two such mythical applicants is impossible.

Furthermore, I would give greater weight to an applicant that told me they run (insert product of interest that another applicant has nothing beyond certifications in) at home on play boxes. To me someone who is willing to take the time to play with things on their own has more interest in the subject than someone who just took a course. It has also been my experience working with people who were working towards certrifications that they spend work time studying. Would I rather get someone who plays with this stuff at home and has a generally implied interest or someone who will spend work time preparing for a test that does not directly relate* to their job?

To me, the most important thing for a computer related job is problem solving skills. This is something that is hard to quantify, however educational (like colleges, and to an extent vocational schools) experience often elivates or shows this ability, and pure book smarts do not measure this at all. I would rather have someone who can solve nearly any problem in time X if they need to research things, over someone who solve some problems off the top of their head in time less than X. I want more problems solved even if the time is raised to a reasonable level.

* - yes, there are some applicable questions that I think fall under a general competency factor that are applicable to many job sites, but there is also a large portion of questions regarding prodcut features that not all places use.

none (1)

subgeek (263292) | more than 11 years ago | (#5506343)

i don't have any of those, but most of my friends say i'm a very nice person. they're probably biased, but it's good enough for me.

CNS (1)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 11 years ago | (#5506621)

I snagged a CNS once (not CNE) was a matter of reading some PDFs and filling in some webforms. Aside from a free copy or two of NetWare 5, I ended up not getting much more out of it. Most of our customer sites ran NT 4; I think there was only one new NetWare install that I know of, and it was a newer version on newer hardware replacing an ancient version on about-to-break-down hardware.

few (1)

Blackneto (516458) | more than 11 years ago | (#5506675)

MS and Novell. Paid for by various employers cause they needed one certified. I also have a few from HP for LaserJets
But I've never put them on any resume or really told any employer about them other than the ones I got while with them.
I've lied about a few because it's easier than taking the tests, and no one checks except for CCIE.
With my 12 year history in the field I don't think anyone cares about my certs.

Certified? (1)

MonTemplar (174120) | more than 11 years ago | (#5507646)

I'm certifiable... you insensitive clod! :)

Thought about MCSD a while back, but the cost, hassle, and less-than-stellar rep that such qualifications have acquired nowadays caused me to eventually knock the idea on the head. Also, the fact that I code mainly in Borland Delphi, and have never gotten on with Visual Studio, might have caused problems getting the certificate...

None (1)

mpost4 (115369) | more than 11 years ago | (#5509597)

Have they ever helped any one, and if so what ones, I thought about it before, but before I invest the time and money, is it worth it?

None... sort of (1)

Tet (2721) | more than 11 years ago | (#5511516)

I've got a certificate from a Sun Network Programming course I went on years ago. But I'm not exactly proud of it. It's just something I needed to learn at the time. I've considered doing a CCNA -- because it's so easy, I should be able to breeze through it. But since it's so easy, it's not really worth the paper it's printed on. And experience counts for 10 times as much as any certification when looking for a job anyway. Since I already have the experience, the cost of getting certified isn't justified by the negligible benefit it'll give me...

None, but... (1)

kormoc (122955) | more than 11 years ago | (#5512098)

I will get some soon. Just give me time :)
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