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Strategy games that don't cheat?

drinkypoo (153816) writes | more than 2 years ago

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OK, I know AI is hard (no pun intended) but are there any strategy games out there that don't cheat on any but the lowest levels? Haven't tried Civ V yet, but IV is just another case of easy easy easy IMPOSSIBLE to me... I just can't muster the interest to outsmart a computer program written to cheat against me.

OK, I know AI is hard (no pun intended) but are there any strategy games out there that don't cheat on any but the lowest levels? Haven't tried Civ V yet, but IV is just another case of easy easy easy IMPOSSIBLE to me... I just can't muster the interest to outsmart a computer program written to cheat against me.

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The obvious answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#38629230)

Limit yourself to Player vs Player games or gamemodes.

Any AI will cheat, if not intentionally then unintentionally because the AI's sensors will differ from yours. If it doesn't look like cheating, it's only because the developers put some effort in mimicking human actions.

Mind you: Any human player / opponent might cheat too. If the game allows addons, they'll be (ab)used, by definition. But at least you'll have a chance to 'cheat' at your opponents level.

I realize this may be not the answer you wanted to hear, after all, you asked for AI's. Still, i sincerely think it's the most fair answer in this case.

Having said that, to counter a cheating AI, you could read yourself into some theory craft about AI mechanisms, like influence maps and decision trees. And, most likely, you overlooked some game opportunity too, because after all, even at highest AI level, the game creators will have left _some_ way to defeat the AI. You just have to discover it.

Happy gaming.

Helpful Answer (1)

improfane (855034) | more than 2 years ago | (#38773292)

Try Sins of a Solar Empire, I have never been able to beat that game's AI, the game is very slow to play.

SimCity is fun but gets difficult when you don't know what is wrong.

Hmm have a look at this: http://aigamedev.com/open/highlights/top-ai-games/ [aigamedev.com]
I had no idea some of these games had those features though to be honest.

Re:Helpful Answer (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 2 years ago | (#38773688)

Unfortunately, only one or two of those are strategy games... I own Simcity 4 Deluxe, which is pretty decent and even works under wine with the opengl renderer. I also have Black & White 1 and 2 and used to have Creatures but I gave it to a girlfriend.

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