Beta

Slashdot: News for Nerds

×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

The entertainment industry gets it, and that's the problem.

elsurexiste (1758620) writes | more than 2 years ago

DRM 1

After following for a few years the modus operandi of RIAA and MPAA, and working on movies' DRM, I now understand why the industry gets it and how it acts. But I didn't feel inspired to write about it until I read these comments. My entry will apply only to movies, because I don't have the context or inside information for books or music.

After following for a few years the modus operandi of RIAA and MPAA, and working on movies' DRM, I now understand why the industry gets it and how it acts. But I didn't feel inspired to write about it until I read these comments. My entry will apply only to movies, because I don't have the context or inside information for books or music.

Let's start with a basic statement: copying a movie and seeing it without paying to someone is bad. I'm not talking about a guy seeing the flick he bought with his friends (even if he totaled around 200 friends in different occasions), but the guy that downloads the movie. Let's just be practical: it's unsustainable. A producer puts money on it and expects at least to break even by charging people for seeing it. If everyone sees your movie without paying, and this behavior is generalized beyond a certain point, you can't recoup. So, even though it gets a lot of upvotes, we must agree that copyright provides a good incentive. It's not about freedom of speech: it's about an incentive to produce a creative work. Or, if you prefer it that way, copyright is indeed trumping on your freedom of speech, but you should come up with arguments that prove that freedom of speech is (a) always right and good, or at least (b) how it's good in this context.

This is not a defense of the current copyright durations: 20 years was enough in the twentieth century; I'd argue that sometimes is excessive today. I even noticed that, should the copyright duration after the death of the author extends just three years, Disney would have infringed Grimm's rights on his version of Snow White back in the 30's. I'm also not justifying these actions or the passing of abusive laws: I'm just defending the notions of copyright and that it should be enforceable.

I can summarize the way the movie industry deals with copyright violations today in a single phrase: "Put as many barriers as possible while we try to make money". There. This is based on a surprisingly simple fact: as a film gets older, its contribution to the cash flow gets smaller. This is not always so, especially with classics, but it works as a rule of thumb. The movie industry doesn't care for old flicks, because its main source of income is movies that have been out for less than a year. So, instead of fighting copyright infringements just for the sake of it, it's trying to delay the inevitable. Because, no matter how many times slashdotters say it, they *get it*. They aren't dinosaurs, and know this is fighting a losing battle: pirates are going to evaporate that income no matter what. What's important is to make it as hard as possible for pirates to do their thing, because profit is on that difference. They do what they can to close sites not because of an Orwellian notion of content, but because they want to profit as quickly as they can before piracy kicks them out of the equation. They put DRM schemes like AACS because they can remove pirate traitors from the system and continue publishing protected works in an easy way. The thing is, in this state of mind, there's no barrier ugly enough to be discarded, no action deemed too harsh, irrational or immoral. They are just deterrents that keep the money coming in, "the right thing to do" has nothing to do with it.

Here we are today, with the MPAA demanding batshit crazy laws and criminalizing everyone, and crazy people arguing that copyright should be abolished and institute a model in which artists live on donations because they shouldn't profit from their works' massive and instantaneous distribution. How do we get out of this crazy circle? To be honest, I don't know. I'd argue that returning to the 20-years rule of copyright, eliminating DRM, and turning infringement into a summary offense would help a lot, in part because it would change the attitude of all the parties. Something that would really help is truly payable fines (e.g. the total cost plus 25%, and you get to keep that copy) instead of suing for millions in damages: if paying is fast, cheap and convenient, suddenly it's much more enforceable. The producers can expect to receive money from both infringers and buyers, illegal distributors get penalized but not so heavily that they must go too underground, and users aren't guilty by default (the case with DRM). Even more, these changes would make illegal distributors a more interesting target than users. The only problem is how to find out about infringement. TPB would, in its current format, have some responsibility in this offense, but because it can produce a list of offenders, it can pay for their copies or direct the MPAA to them so it can still collect a few fines. As you can see, it's not polished enough

I don't know, maybe I'm hallucinating, but reality is too crazy as it is. Everyone "gets it", and that's making the problem bigger.

cancel ×

1 comment

A few problems (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 2 years ago | (#38674538)

Let's start with a basic statement: copying a movie and seeing it without paying to someone is bad.

Let's start with a basic statement: borrowing a movie from the public library and seeing it without paying to someone is bad. See how stupid that sounds? But in fact I can and do check movies, books, and music out of the library and I don't pay anyone a dime. You think that's wrong? I think you're wrong. So does New York Times best seller Cory Doctorow, who credits his success to the fact that he puts his books online for anyone to read for free.

You've fallen for the fallacy that piracy harms sales. It just isn't the case. Study after study shows that most people will and want to pay for quality, and that pirates spend more money on media than non-pirates.

A year or two ago a publisher commissioned a study to find out how much revenue he was losing to piracy. With books it was easy to study, since the book doesn't go online for a few weeks after publication, since it has to be scanned. So the researchers looked at the expected drop in sales in order to measure it. The researchers and publisher were amazed to find that rather than a decline in sales when the pirate version came out, there was a spike in sales.

As Doctorow says, nobody ever went broke from piracy, but many artists have starved from obscurity. I'm not going to shell out twenty bucks for a CD or book by a band or witer I've never heard of. If it were not for the library, I would not now have over a dozen Isaac Asimov books on my bookshelf; once I'd read a few of his books, I'd buy them when I saw them at a bookstore. Yet you think libraries are immoral!

The only people who piracy harms is those who produce crap. It helps those who produce quality.

I personally get a lot of free copyrighted media, none of it from the internet. I have a DVD recorder (a standalone like a VCR that uses a DVD instead of tape) to record TV shows off the air. I sample the radio and burn it to CD. I also buy a lot of movies and TV shows; I'd far prefer to buy a $5 movie at WalMart than go to the trouble of DLing it.

You put this guy [slashdot.org] down, not for his poor writing (English is probably his second language) but for his views -- views entirely consistant with what the US Constitution says about copyright: "Creating the about to own ideas, words, and pictures is immoral." When I write, I do NOT own my ideas or words once they leave my lips or keyboard. The constitution says I have a "limited time" monopoly on publication of those ideas, not ownership. Everyone owns them; they're part of society and belong to society.

I'm not against copyright; in fact, I hold registered copyrights on software and am about to register copyright on a book, which I've put on BitTorrent for anybody who wants to read it for free. I'll be offering paper versions for pay, and will probably put it on Amazon or B&N as an e-book for maybe a buck, just for people like you who think libraries are immoral.

I am against the insanely long copyright terms, and I think noncommercial "piracy" should not only not be outlawed, it should be encouraged.

Check for New Comments
Slashdot Account

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
Create a Slashdot Account

Loading...