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Mitt Romney's Attitude

turgid (580780) writes | about 2 years ago

User Journal 5

The Guardian has a very insightful and informative editorial called Mitt Romney and the myth of self-created millionaires.

Although I'm British, the US Presidential elections are 6 weeks away, and this man stands a good chance of soon becoming the Most Powerful Man in the World, which will affect us all.

The Guardian has a very insightful and informative editorial called Mitt Romney and the myth of self-created millionaires.

Although I'm British, the US Presidential elections are 6 weeks away, and this man stands a good chance of soon becoming the Most Powerful Man in the World, which will affect us all.

This is the man who recently wrote off Democrat supporters (47% of Americans) as being feckless, lazy leeches on society.

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Worry not, world (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#41456749)

Romney is sinking rapidly and has nearly zero chance of winning. Even if the GOP pulls off 2004-level voter suppression they still won't be able to win this one.

Re:Worry not, world (1)

turgid (580780) | about 2 years ago | (#41468909)

That's good to hear, although at the back of my mind, I can't help thinking that they did elect George W Bush (and not once, but twice).

Re:Worry not, world (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#41470745)

they did elect George W Bush (and not once, but twice).

That is a matter of opinion. Bush did not win the election in 2000, and the election was questionable in 2004 considering the previously unimaginable degree of voter suppression that delivered him "re-election".

That is the good news.

The bad news should be shared, too, though. Yes, Obama will win the election; there is almost no doubt of that. However there is a huge difference between the Obama that the US (and indeed the world) thought was elected in 2008 and the Obama that has been POTUS for almost 4 years now. By his actions - in terms of bills signed into law and other executive actions - Obama is another Bush presidency. And there is no good reason to expect otherwise for his 2012-2016 term.

The only good news is that while Obama is the most conservative president the US has had in a very, very long time (demonstrably more conservative than even Reagan in some measures), Romney would be even worse.

Re:Worry not, world (1)

turgid (580780) | about 2 years ago | (#41481337)

Bush did not win the election in 2000, and the election was questionable in 2004 considering the previously unimaginable degree of voter suppression that delivered him "re-election".

I remember that. How did he get away with it, and why did it happen?

Re:Worry not, world (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#41481515)

Bush did not win the election in 2000, and the election was questionable in 2004 considering the previously unimaginable degree of voter suppression that delivered him "re-election".

I remember that. How did he get away with it, and why did it happen?

The first time, it happened largely because the republicans wanted the presidency much more than the democrats did - or at least, more than Al Gore did. Al Gore filed a lawsuit over the election results and then basically surrendered as soon as the suit reached the supreme court. Granted, the supreme court was stacked with judges who were appointed by Reagan and Bush Sr., so Gore had almost no chance of winning there regardless, but he could have at least put up a marginal fight. Combine that with the partisan hacks in Florida who were determined to paint there state red no matter what - even if they had to use screwy butterfly ballots and try to explain why a large county mostly full of retired Jewish men would vote for white supremacist Pat Buchanan - and you see that the fight was almost meaningless for Gore once it reached that step.

That said, the democrats picked nearly the least interesting candidate imaginable in 2000, and said candidate proceeded to distance himself from his greatest asset (Bill Clinton) pretty well as soon as he started running.

And of course, don't forget the (Ralph) Nader effect. There was more than one state where the margin by which GWB won was less than the number of votes cast for Nader. The GOP was smart enough to foresee this, and ran ads on Nader's behalf during the campaign season, to encourage democrats to vote for Nader instead of Gore.

And then in 2004...

The single biggest election crime of 2004 was likely in Ohio. The republicans managed to basically shut down the non-white vote in that state by re-allocating voting machines, thus making it impossible for many urban minorities to vote. White suburbanites had, on average, 10 minute wait times to vote. Urban minorities, had, on average, 4 hour wait times. Many of them ultimately walked away from the election because they could not take 4 hours out of their day to vote - remember part-time jobs do not generally get paid time off for anything, even voting.

On top of that, the democratic candidate for 2004 was John Kerry. Look up "swift boat" to see what the republicans did to him during the campaign. For reasons still unclear he refused to respond directly to any of the allegations, expecting that the truth would be sufficient to overcome the smear campaign. Rather unsurprisingly, that did not work.

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