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Let the GOP voter suppression begin... in Ohio

damn_registrars (1103043) writes | about 2 years ago

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Romney is already incapable of winning this election, but that won't stop dedicated activists from trying to steal it for him anyways . We should recall the massive voter suppression efforts the Bush administration and their friends executed in 2004 in Ohio, by intentionally under-supplying voting machines in economically disadvantaged precincts which cause some people to wait several hours toRomney is already incapable of winning this election, but that won't stop dedicated activists from trying to steal it for him anyways . We should recall the massive voter suppression efforts the Bush administration and their friends executed in 2004 in Ohio, by intentionally under-supplying voting machines in economically disadvantaged precincts which cause some people to wait several hours to vote while voters in more affluent areas voted in 10 minutes or less.

Now, the Tea Party is targeting likely democratic voters to get them dropped from the rolls for eligible voters.

The tea party groups, scattered around the state, have joined forces under the banner of the Ohio Voter Integrity Project. It is an offshoot of True the Vote, a Texas organization that has recruited volunteers nationwide to challenge voter rosters and work as poll watchers.

True the Vote was founded by Catherine and Bryan Engelbrecht, a couple who run an oil field equipment manufacturing firm in Rosenberg, Texas.

In Ohio, election records show, one of the project's top priorities has been to remove college students from the voter rolls for failure to specify dorm room numbers. (As a group, college students are strongly in Obama's camp.)

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All told, the Ohio group has questioned registrations in 13 counties, according to Siegel. In 2008, Obama won nine of them.

Whether this is about race or not, this does show one thing. The GOP is indeed united in one thing above all else - their hatred of Obama. They don't care what they have to do to get him out, what laws they have to break, what kind of underhanded tricks they have to pull. Of course this shouldn't surprise anyone after what happened in 2000. And 2004. And 2008. And the midterms in 2006 and 2010.

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Not about race per se (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#41502149)

This particular component of election 2012 shenanigans is not about race per se. It is about voter suppression. You engage in activities that are more likely to affect voters for Obama than voters for Romney. Obviously the most tilted voting demographic is the blacks. Keep 100 blacks from voting, and you've kept 99 votes from Obama while only losing one Romney vote. Two problems are that blacks are not large parts of the electorate (thanks to drug laws, mostly) and racism is something the media will keep an eye out for.

So go to the next tilted demographic. This group has been eyeballing students. College students are, let's say, going to vote for Obama at a 75-25 rate. So for every three Obama votes you destroy, you only destroy one Romney. Decent returns. And college students aren't very popular, especially in college towns. Nobody will stand up for them like they will for ethic minorities.

Now, the underlying animus against Obama has a huge racial component. Anyone denying that is trying to sell you something. I don't know that I would look at the Sheldon Adelsons and Mitt Romneys of the world and say that their personal motivations are racial. But for a significant swath of their supporters, the worst thing this country ever did was put a black man in the White House. Romney and his surrogates will fan those flames as much as possible to get into office.

Re:Not about race per se (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41503781)

Two problems are that blacks are not large parts of the electorate...

Even without the drug issue, blacks just don't have the numbers to really affect a presidential race without the help of at least 40% of the white/hispanic/etc vote. And despite the drug issue, not many of them are going to vote for an anti-prohibition candidate. In fact, blacks aren't a very liberal bunch at all. You won't get much support from them on the gay marriage issue. They carry a lot of religious baggage also. They're also not very good defenders of free speech either. Their scope is pretty much limited to what affects them directly and not much else. I noticed this after 9/11 when they were suddenly okay with profiling as long as it wasn't them being profiled. In other words, they're pretty much exactly like the rest of us. When they get comfortable they, too, staunchly defend the status quo.

Voter 'suppression' is not an issue within the context of democrat/republican. As long as one of them win, it's all good to the controllers. I'm much more concerned if/when real non-aligned voters are suppressed. Kinda like with the Ron Paul thing. Even if he is nuts, he was rudely cut out of the running by real suppression.

Re:Not about race per se (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 2 years ago | (#41505993)

Here's the punchline though: Romney's so behind in the polls that this latest round of voter suppression isn't going to be enough!

Re:Not about race per se (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 2 years ago | (#41508369)

Here's the punchline though: Romney's so behind in the polls that this latest round of voter suppression isn't going to be enough!

I thought so too, until I read an article about how this "True the Vote" tea party organization is planning on challenging every single vote in heavily Democratic areas. They're planning on challenging students whose addresses do not include dorm room numbers. If you live on the third floor and your license says "apartment 3" and your registration says "unit 3" you will get challenged. They have announced plans to create such disruption at strategic polling places as to completely poison the results from those districts entirely.

Just today, there were thousands of voter registrations from Democratic districts found thrown in the garbage by GOP registration groups. There are plenty of people out there who will face prosecution and the resulting slap on the wrist for future consideration. It worked for Tom DeLay, after all.

We saws what the GOP is willing to do in 2000 and 2004. Today, they're a lot crazier and a lot more fired up to cause trouble. And it's not just an extremist group, but a party-wide agenda.

Most of the Democratic election judges in certain Red States are Republican voters. There have been well-funded groups trying to saturate every polling place with tea party poll watchers and their stated goal, according to their own literature, is to make every Democratic voter feel like "a driver who sees a police car in the rear view mirror". It's the clearest admission of intent to intimidate I've ever seen.

This will be a very ugly election day, and I'm not sure the Justice Department has the resources or the will to stay on top of the whole mess. Honestly, I believe this election will be the opening campaign of a "Cold Civil War".

Re:Not about race per se (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#41508911)

Just like the GOP. Claim that government doesn't work then pick incompetents to run it and overwhelm the services to 'prove' your point.

I can't recall: is "True the Vote" another Koch founded group?

Re:Not about race per se (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#41509191)

I can't recall: is "True the Vote" another Koch founded group?

They're Tea Party affiliated, so yes.

Re:Not about race per se (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#41509229)

Honestly, I believe this election will be the opening campaign of a "Cold Civil War".

If by cold, you mean that eventually part of the country leaves without their being an actual physical conflict, then I agree. I do think that we are getting closer to seeing secession movements take shape, with the paranoia ramping up [foxnews.com] . If I were in charge and Texas wanted to leave - even taking most of the south with them (they can even have Florida for as much as I care) - I'd say go for it.

Re:Not about race per se (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#41509677)

The funny thing is that many Texans think they could do a better job securing the southern border than the federal government. They secede and they become the northernmost state of Mexico within a generation.

Re:Not about race per se (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about 2 years ago | (#41509963)

The funny thing is that many Texans think they could do a better job securing the southern border than the federal government.

The US would definitely be spending a lot less on border security if Texas left, as nobody would ever try to enter the US through Texas. Any person trying to enter the US from Texas would probably be well suited to living in the US, so the US-Texas border wouldn't likely need much security, either.

They secede and they become the northernmost state of Mexico within a generation.

Unfortunately once that happens then the Texans try to invade / enter the US. That would not be better.

Re:Not about race per se (1)

gmhowell (26755) | about 2 years ago | (#41508901)

Didn't you hear? The polls are lies.

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