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John Doe

FortKnox (169099) writes | more than 11 years ago

Television 16

Please Please Please tell me one of you is a big "John Doe" fan.

If so, did you see the season finale tonight?

What did you think?Please Please Please tell me one of you is a big "John Doe" fan.

If so, did you see the season finale tonight?

What did you think?

No one in my family (save my mother-in-law) watches the show, so I have no one to talk to about it.
And the ending of the season finale... Wow... it kicked ASS!

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Sorry (1)

daeley (126313) | more than 11 years ago | (#5813784)

Too busy watching CSI, American Chopper reruns, and getting to Tokyo on Tony Hawk 3. :)

nope...sorry (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#5813974)

too busy these days with tech work/job hunting/M*A*S*H reruns

Re:nope...sorry (1)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 11 years ago | (#5820849)

You job hunting?

Re:nope...sorry (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 11 years ago | (#5823117)

'fraid so. though my old boss is trying to get to be able to hire me back, the company has tight restrictions on rehiring contractors and doesnt have the head count to hire me flat out unfortunately.

I watched it! (1)

glh (14273) | more than 11 years ago | (#5814203)

I really like John Doe, though I don't get to watch it every week. Lately I've been catching it.. I thought it was kind of hoakey with the psychic stuff. But, it was cool nonetheless. Also, I was super suprised to see who the guy wearing the cap was. Why did he look down at John Doe when he was trying to get away? That was pretty strange.

And the staff at the Vatican.. I remember an episode earlier where they sort of hinted that's where it was, so that was no big suprise.

Definitely leaves a lot of open ends for the next season. I'm wondering if some how he's going to realize what the Phoenix is. Like many shows, it seems to be teetering the fence in terms of being a little to "out-there" and I hope it doesn't go over board.

Tivo'd it (1)

dmorin (25609) | more than 11 years ago | (#5814296)

Ya know, I really want to give the premise a shot, even though it is a little too "Pretender" for me. But it seems like every week they go over the edge with the nonsense. Like a couple of weeks ago during one of their computer-centric episodes, we have the bartender open the panel on a computer, remove a chip, put it back in, and then announce to the room that he "rebooted the core dump." I mean, holy hell in a handbasket.

But no, haven't watched the finale yet. I shall, now. Sounds good.

Need a copy (1)

handsomepete (561396) | more than 11 years ago | (#5814322)

If anyone has a rip of it, let me know. Due to season pass nonsense, Tivo recorded CSI (normally not on Friday night, I don't think) instead. I've actually followed this show all season, I'd hate to give up now.

John Doe? (2, Funny)

ralico (446325) | more than 11 years ago | (#5815858)

I have heard of this thing you call "tv".
What is the url?

Re:John Doe? (1)

Safety Cap (253500) | more than 11 years ago | (#5820392)

It seems to be a VIRUS that infects humans and causes their brain waves to FLATTEN.

Oh, and let's not get into the incessant DROOLING.

saw it, freaked out (1)

Blackneto (516458) | more than 11 years ago | (#5816436)

Totally didn't expect Digger to be there.
the wife and I thought it would be some sort of Doe clone.
Catching Trenchcoat was cool though, although I wonder why he went back to the cannery. on purpose?
With Digger being in on this it makes me wonder about them killing Karen off. The character really wasn't that important except for maybe in this context.
Anyway I thought it kicked azz too.
Now if they had kept Firefly on the air...

Re:saw it, freaked out (1)

DDX_2002 (592881) | more than 11 years ago | (#5816472)

You probably should have spoiler-warning'ed that. But anyhoo, yeah, I totally didn't see THAT one coming. I was expecting it to be a JD clone, like somebody said. Explains (perhaps) some of the worst coincidences of the show... like the guy the hero meets in a bar and befriends just happens to be an ex-black ops type, I guess... no, no it doesn't. So they set up the head of phoenix as a bar owner, somehow having determined EXACTLY where JD would end up on the first night in civilization so that he could offer him a job as a piano player?!?! WTF? I suppose, MAYBE, they could have remote viewed where Doe would end up. But that gives them, what, 12 hours to buy a bar and install their guy? General Plausibility Fault. Please reboot.

Ok watched (1)

dmorin (25609) | more than 11 years ago | (#5816945)

Here's my initial thought -- I want all of their shows to tie into the whole Phoenix story line in some way. The ones that I've thought sucked the worst (such as the "rebooted the core dump" one) seem to be one-offs.

This was good stuff. Tied in a whole bunch of story lines in a consistent manner. Was dark and violent without being gratuitous and gruesome. I personally like it when a good guy is willing to torture the bad guy a little bit (see '24'). And that revelation about deafmute guy (not spoiling it :))

And the ending? Fugheddaboutit. Gotta watch the next season now. Mandatory.

The show became real for me when they killed off Karen. It went from being just a weekly show to something that actually had a history and a story. I kinda liked her. I like her better than Digger, honestly.

I like that they're getting away from the reliance on "Doe knows everything" and more into the connections to his past with the remote viewing and stuff. As I said before, the whole "I am brilliant and can do anything" schtick is just too Pretender for me. Plus when you use it too much you run into situations where it's obvious that the writers are just making stuff up.


"Oh oh one oh one one oh oh one one oh." "Wow, the binary code for DOS!" - from the series pilot

Re:Ok watched (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 11 years ago | (#5817167)

want all of their shows to tie into the whole Phoenix story line in some way

You know what this is, right?
The X-Files all over again.

There are X-Files all about the aliens and stuff, and then 'filler'. Doe is setup the EXACT same way. Fills the void that the classic X-Files left.

Re:Ok watched (1)

dmorin (25609) | more than 11 years ago | (#5817192)

The X-Files all over again.

Funny you should say that. After watching the finale I wrote to a friend (who I often complain about John Doe to), "Ok, this show seriously suffers from X-Files syndrome". I was never a followed of X-Files for exactly this reason. She would say "Oh my god it's so good the backstory is amazing!" I would try to watch and hit a sucky show, then be told "Oh, well, that one was filler."

Why do that, though? I mean it's not like '24' has filler shows, and it still does pretty well. I suppose it would be cute, and a nice change of pace, if they didn't run the risk of just being so bad.

Re: Filler (1)

Jens_UK (615572) | more than 11 years ago | (#5831417)

I really don't mind non-backstory episodes. Honestly, most of my favorite X Files episodes were not really related to the backstory (cockroach, Charles Nelson Reilly, et al.). Often, I found the story-story-standalone-store rhythm of the three sweeps months tiresome, as you knew nothing would happen in the first 2.5 story episodes, and then just a cliffhanger at the end of sweeps to get you for the next sweeps. And the backstory itself seemed to be massaged just to maintain interest rather than being its own arc, so that you had ends dangle needlessly or forced frustrations.

So, as long as they are well-written, and develop the character (emotionally rather than historically), bring on the stand alones.

And dammit, why did the one episode I miss all season have to be when Karen gets killed? Argh! :hopes brother has it:

Gotta admit.... (1)

Cliff (4114) | more than 11 years ago | (#5832155)

The last scene was a bit of a shocker, but I haven't been watching the show religiously, so I can't say if I would have picked up on some of the "revelations" or not. I generally have avoided Fox, particularly Fox Fridays, since the cancellation of Firefly. It was just pure happenstance that made me tune in for most of Doe that night.

Put it this way, the last full episode I saw was the one before Doe gets Technicolor and battles wits with "Jack".

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