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Modbombing and Interview Control

sllort (442574) writes | more than 11 years ago

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Update: This comment by an AC claims that a user moderator, not an editor, was one party to the moderation attack on this comment. While an AC comment doesn't prove much, it is at this point pretty unlikely that editors were involved. I'd like to remind everyone reading that the name of the posting account isn't sufficient information to grade

Update: This comment by an AC claims that a user moderator, not an editor, was one party to the moderation attack on this comment. While an AC comment doesn't prove much, it is at this point pretty unlikely that editors were involved. I'd like to remind everyone reading that the name of the posting account isn't sufficient information to grade an entire post; in this case, the linked post is factual, polite and accurate, and fully deserving of the +5 Interesting score the users originally gave it.

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Original journal entry:
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Slashdot interviews send the best of the 5-rated user comments to an interview candidate. Users pick the best questions, and Slashdot sends the interview. Right?

Maybe.

Take a look at the Fyodor Interview. Scroll down to this comment which asks, in a polite fashion, whether Fyodor has ever chosen to use his hacking skills to break the law, and cites the Slashdot troll hacking incident detailed earlier in my journal. This question received a score of 5 from the users of Slashdot, and was therefore eligible to be part of Fyodor's interview.

Today, alert reader Gendou pointed out that four days after the story posted, a flurry of moderation activity had occurred in this posts's thread. The post was moderated down as a "Troll", heavily, till it reached threshold 3, and every comment in the thread which mentioned Fyodor's hacking incident also received large quantities of "Troll" moderation.

Now, who gets moderator points, opens up a four day old story, and starts using moderation to push an agenda? More than 5 points were used in the attack, which means that either a large group of users acting in concert attacked the thread, or a user who is gaming Slashdot's system attacked the thread, or an editor did it. Who was bent on removing any shred of legitimacy from complaints that this question was not forwarded to Fyodor?

The users of Slashdot gave this comment a score of 5.

Slashdot Moderation is unaccountable, and I don't know who did this. For now, I'd like anyone who saw that the users of Slashdot moderate this question to 5 to vouch for that fact in the comments, as I am vouching here. We may never find out who manipulated the comment scores, but we can set the record straight.

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the fight is fixed. story at 11. (0, Troll)

mekkab (133181) | more than 11 years ago | (#6011073)

Dewd, this is slashdot. Accountability? HA. Responbsibility? Ha. Respactability? Double Ha.

The mods just proved our point. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6011561)

You've been busted down Troll! Teh mods are on teh crack and trying to shush ti up!!1111!

Re:The mods just proved our point. (1)

red5 (51324) | more than 11 years ago | (#6011787)

Actually, I know the guy who modded that and he isn't an editor and he did it as a joke. No it wasn't me as you can see I've commented and it's still there

Re:The mods just proved our point. (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 11 years ago | (#6013086)

yo, red, lemme at him! I'll give him a pow! a whamm! A bang-zoom RIGHT IN THE KISSER!

DO you know what this does to my karma?! Now I have to sling rock on the streets!

actually, thats really hysterical!

Re:The mods just proved our point. (1)

red5 (51324) | more than 11 years ago | (#6013306)

Though you might enjoy that.

Just for the record he also moded you up somewhere else. So it's a wash. Just a little joke friendly joke via the moderation system.

Re:The mods just proved our point. (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 11 years ago | (#6014876)

Awww, its funnier without the up mods. ;)
Jokes don't always have to be friendly to be funny (although sometimes I need the punchline explained to me so I don't go into a wild rage and annihilate the universe in a blind rage of rotating blades)

Re:The mods just proved our point. (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 11 years ago | (#6014983)

I think I'm about to get modded down for that one!

Re:the fight is fixed. story at 11. (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 10 years ago | (#6015875)

Respactability?

Ability to spell? Triple Ha!

Standard Response (1)

dthable (163749) | more than 11 years ago | (#6011678)

"Why don't you submit a patch and we'll consider it"

Re:Standard Response (1)

flikx (191915) | more than 11 years ago | (#6012015)

No patch is needed. If perhaps someone could bribe an editor, they could see exactly who moderated each comment. The feature is already there, but only available to administrators.

Re:Standard Response (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6042407)

Daniel Montrallo Flickinger
Mabel Flickinger

They live at:
951 E. Sepentine Way,
Sandy, Utah 84094
(801) 571-5394

Dan claims to go to the University of Utah. He brags about being either an engineering major, or a computer science major, and even claims to have graduated. In reality, he was expelled back in 2001 for setting up a crapflooding site on school property. He was only a sophomore at the time, with no chosen major, and has yet to return to school. He considers himself as some sort of 'guru', but cannot even keep a simple slash or scoop based site running for more than 48 hours.

An acknowledged jack-mormon living in Utah, Dan has few friends online or offline. He smokes and drinks alcohol, which is strictly against his mormon faith. His lack of devotion is second only to the despicable way he treats his horrid fat wife. She is driven to complain constantly about him to people online.

In the end, Dan Flickinger is a sad and lonely individual. He deserves nothing but the utmost contempt from everyone. Compared to the sorrid life or Mr. Flickinger, Scott Lockwood is a saint .

Obligatory Matrix tie-in (3, Funny)

Safety Cap (253500) | more than 11 years ago | (#6013332)

Morpheus: We have survived by hiding from them...by running from them. But they are the gatekeepers. They are guarding all the comments, they are holding all the mod points, and that means that sooner or later, someone is going to have to fight them.

Neo: Someone?

Morpheus: I won't lie to you, Neo. Every single man or woman who has stood their ground, EVERYONE who has fought an editor has been $rtbl'd. But where they have failed, you will succeed.

Neo: Why?

Morpheus: I've seen an editor bitchslap an entire message thread with one command. Men have emptied their mod points and affected nothing but their own karma. Yet their Perl code is and their power are still based in a world that is built on rules, and because of that, they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be.

Re:Obligatory Matrix tie-in (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#6017253)

NICE! LMFAO!

Slashdot (1)

ces (119879) | more than 11 years ago | (#6013516)

There are certain editors I suspect are responsible for at least some of the modbombing and other immature and childish antics.

I kind of wish Roblimo was still more actively involved with Slashdot, when he was around it seemed to provide much needed adult supervision.

could we see a return (-1)

Yr0 (224662) | more than 10 years ago | (#6017261)

of the moderation blacklist thingummy?
( you know, the one where anyone who modded a comment thread lost mod priveledges)
does that still exist?

(posting from this account cos i dont care what you do to it...)

No conspiracy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6020349)

I hate to debunk your conspiracy theories, but I was one of the moderators labeling that post a troll. I did this because, gasp, it is a troll. And it looks like I'm not alone in that opinion:

From: slashdot@slashdot.org
Subject: [Slashdot] Metamoderation Results

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Some of your past moderations have been meta-moderated by other
Slashdot readers. Here are the exciting results:

- "Linux Booth Babe and Sdem" from the discussion
which you moderated as "Troll" was voted Fair
<http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=63874&cid=593 8340>

Thank you for moderating.

[ End Paste ]

If you want to hide your trolls better, perhaps you should avoid using the name "egg troll". I had to remove some of the equal signs above due to lameness filter.

Two things: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6022585)

1) Egg troll is not the same person as sllort
2) You may consider the information to be presented in a trollish way, but the facts are real.
3) Thanks for clearing that up. You may notice that I did not initially suspect the editors; thanks for clearing their name.

Well if this site doesn't want to know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#6025443)

...maybe we should contact one that might be interested - anyone got any contacts at MSNBC?
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