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Finally! The results of my experiment.

Mensa Babe (675349) writes | about 11 years ago

Science 28

My work seeking the mysterious correlation between AQ (i.e. how someone is popular in the society at large) and IQ (i.e. how someone is clever, smart and intelligent) is finally completed. The results I got may surprise some of you. Here is what I have found out:

My work seeking the mysterious correlation between AQ (i.e. how someone is popular in the society at large) and IQ (i.e. how someone is clever, smart and intelligent) is finally completed. The results I got may surprise some of you. Here is what I have found out:

People with AQ 7 are most likely to have IQ over 150. People with AQ 11 are most likely to have IQ 175. People with AQ 16 usually have IQ in the range of 140-160, which is exactly the same range, which is the most common among people with AQ 17, however with AQ 17 about half of the people have IQ well over 150, just like all of the people with AQ 21 (the transition to the higher half of 140-160 range must be somewhere around AQ 18.5) and this trend continues up to the point of AQ 27. Then, over AQ 27 strange things happen. The AQ 28 is a usual value of former Mensa members, i.e. those people, who once used to have high IQ, which suddenly dropped below the acceptable level. Half of the people with AQ 28 however have IQ around 140 which is still acceptable in Mensa, however one would suspect a slow but noticable decreasing of IQ at this point. People with AQ 31 have IQ 179, but people with AQ 36 have strangely IQ only 170, and for AQ 39 the most common IQ semms to be 148. This is very interesting indeed. The optimal AQ seems to be exactly 31, which is the highest score one could get without being autistic. Any comments?

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Does your experiment have anything to do... (1)

Surak (18578) | about 11 years ago | (#6321894)

... with this guy's work [chello.nl] ? If so, I'm not exactly sure what the AQ has to do with popularity. Or maybe I'm missing something.

Re:Does your experiment have anything to do... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6322502)

YHBT. YHL. HAND.

Re:Does your experiment have anything to do... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6323396)

Sorry, I came late to this. What's YHL? I get the others. Thanks.

Re:Does your experiment have anything to do... (1)

Farley Mullet (604326) | about 11 years ago | (#6323975)

You Have Been Trolled. You Have Lost. Have A Nice Day.

AQ is the Autism-Spectrum Quotient (1)

Mensa Babe (675349) | about 11 years ago | (#6322641)

AQ is the Autism-Spectrum Quotient according to psychologist Simon Baron-Cohen and his colleagues at Cambridge's Autism Research Centre. Check out The AQ Test [wired.com] . See also my older journals [slashdot.org] .

How? (1)

Surakrout (674479) | about 11 years ago | (#6323555)

How did you collect your numbers?

What are your conclusions?

Best of luck.

Wait a minute! (1)

Mensa Babe (675349) | about 11 years ago | (#6323761)

How did you collect your numbers?

I was just going to answer pointing you to my older journals [slashdot.org] , which I then realised you seem to link to in your signature... Then I found out that I am the only person on your friends list... You are also a foe of Surak [slashdot.org] , who happens to be my friend and fan, and has a strangely similar nick name to yours... May I ask what is going on here?

Re:Wait a minute! (1)

Surak (18578) | about 11 years ago | (#6324087)

I was just going to answer pointing you to my older journals, which I then realised you seem to link to in your signature... Then I found out that I am the only person on your friends list... You are also a foe of Surak, who happens to be my friend and fan, and has a strangely similar nick name to yours... May I ask what is going on here?

He's trolling me. He thinks I'm ekrout, hence the name. He can't post in my journal anymore because I made it 'friends and friends of friends only' so he's feeling left out now.

Re:Wait a minute! (1)

Surakrout (674479) | about 11 years ago | (#6325627)

Once you get the taste of creating multiple /. userids, it's hard to stop, isn't it?

YHBT. YHL. HAND. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6401083)

Step #3. Post a reply to Surakrout's [slashdot.org] latest comment with subject "MOD PARENT DOWN" to get the instructions for message #4!

/. Chase Manager

I see. (1)

Mensa Babe (675349) | about 11 years ago | (#6326232)

He's trolling me. He thinks I'm ekrout, hence the name. He can't post in my journal anymore because I made it 'friends and friends of friends only' so he's feeling left out now.

I see. Well, who is that Krout/ekrout anyway? Take a look at this comment [slashdot.org] . It's not the first time someone said I am Krout or Ekrout or something similar. First I thought that it is some kind of an insult which I don't understand... But anyway, according to those people you and me seem to be the same person... OK, bipolar disorder, why not; Asperger syndrom, maybe; but schizophrenia? I don't think so.

Re:I see. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6326327)

There's a lot of speculation about ekrout accounts, but the absolute known ones are: 'ekrout', '$$$$$exyGal', 'Surak', 'A Proud American', 'Twirlip in the Mists', '$$$$$exyKrout', and 'Surakrout'. You are the latest suspect, and will be smoked out in short order. I notice you have a lot of /. friends who have never posted any journals or comments in several months, and yet your account is less than one month old. Very suspicious behaviour.

Re:I see. (1)

Surak (18578) | about 11 years ago | (#6326355)

I'm a 32 on the AQ, btw, which makes me Asperger or Autistic or something. Only 1 point over your 'optimal'. I haven't had an IQ test in a number of years, but when I was in 6th grade or something I was tested and my score was in the mid-to-upper 170 range. I don't care to get it tested because I'm not one of those people who see IQ as a value judgement as to the worth of the person, and I generally don't go bragging about it, so the only reason I post it is in the name of science. ;)

Is there an accurate online IQ test somewhere? I could take it if there is one. ;)

Eric Krout, BTW is the original fan whore. Other than my signature which points to my journal, I don't participate in fan whoring at all. I appreciate all of my fans and friends, but I'm not going to go out of my way to make new ones -- if someone wants be fan, great, if not, that's fine too. :) The journal link is more to let people know that I actively USE my journal (only a small percentage of Slashdot accounts actually use their journal) and to give people SOME idea what it's about.

Re:I see. (1)

Wildcat J (552122) | about 11 years ago | (#6418434)

[Admittedly, I'm a little late to the party, but you happened to hit on one of my pet peeves.]

Tsk. Someone claiming intellectual superiority should know the difference between schizophrenia and Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder).

This article [spcsb.org] should clear up the misconception.

-J

Thank you. (1)

Mensa Babe (675349) | about 11 years ago | (#6419446)

Someone claiming intellectual superiority should know the difference between schizophrenia and Dissociative Identity Disorder (formerly Multiple Personality Disorder).

Thank you very much indeed. That is a very interesting article. The name "schizophrenia" with its Greek schisma root turns out to be terribly misleading.

Re:Thank you. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6423531)

hmmm... looks like she isn't so unable to agree with someone who points out her own mistake, like some of us thought before. maybe she just was always righ, after all?

Re:Wait a minute! (1)

The Cydonian (603441) | about 11 years ago | (#6331875)

Ah, that explains everything. Always wondered why you restricted posts in your journal.

Re:Wait a minute! (1)

Surak (18578) | about 11 years ago | (#6332321)

You can post now. :)

Incomplete information (1)

mdielmann (514750) | about 11 years ago | (#6331500)

You should read the disclaimers before making sweeping claims that the test publishers don't. If you get a score of 32 or higher, you may have Asperger's. This doesn't mean you do, and given the weighting of the questions, someone who is very socially maladjusted, and has some other has few other symptoms of Asperger's will score above 32. I just ran the test, chose the socring answer for every social-interaction question, and alternated between sides for the rest (ignoring which side was scoring), and got a 34. So any condition that causes social ineptitude is likely to give you a false positive on this test. And like they say on the page you reference, many people who score above their threshold value have no problem interacting in society.

So the short story is, you seem didn't find a correlation between an accepted scoring system, and a scoring system that is still in the testing stage. I say that you didn't seem to find anything because you left out enough information to show only the trends you were interested in. The lowest score on your list is 140, whereas the 'average' intelligence is 100. Where do those who are average, or below average fall? You could have at least attempted to provide complete information if you wanted anyone else to find this useful.

Re:Incomplete information (1)

Uart (29577) | about 11 years ago | (#6363349)

Her results are inconclusive.

She's not a scientist, she is a Slashdotter.

Hrm... (1)

shayborg (650364) | about 11 years ago | (#6341593)

Very interesting, but I don't think you have enough data for your results to be statistically significant -- but I think you knew that already.

-- shayborg

Optimal? (1)

Theaetetus (590071) | about 11 years ago | (#6395446)

People with AQ 7 are most likely to have IQ over 150. People with AQ 11 are most likely to have IQ 175. People with AQ 16 usually have IQ in the range of 140-160, which is exactly the same range, which is the most common among people with AQ 17, however with AQ 17 about half of the people have IQ well over 150, just like all of the people with AQ 21 (the transition to the higher half of 140-160 range must be somewhere around AQ 18.5) and this trend continues up to the point of AQ 27. Then, over AQ 27 strange things happen. The AQ 28 is a usual value of former Mensa members, i.e. those people, who once used to have high IQ, which suddenly dropped below the acceptable level. Half of the people with AQ 28 however have IQ around 140 which is still acceptable in Mensa, however one would suspect a slow but noticable decreasing of IQ at this point. People with AQ 31 have IQ 179, but people with AQ 36 have strangely IQ only 170, and for AQ 39 the most common IQ semms to be 148. This is very interesting indeed. The optimal AQ seems to be exactly 31, which is the highest score one could get without being autistic. Any comments?

How do you get that optimal AQ of 31? You've listed the AQ 31 people as a 179 IQ and the AQ 11 people as 175 IQ... but with vastly better social eptitude. I think that the 4 points of IQ are a worthwhile trade off for 20 points of AQ.

Plus, you apparently neglected my 187 IQ-11 AQ from your informal study. This would seem to lead to the conclusion that an 11 AQ gives you a 170-190 IQ, which would be definitely optimal. However, that conclusion, like yours, stretches the issue.

If anything, I would say that the results seem to show that there's no apparent correlation between AQ and IQ within the small population included here - expand this, and include a control group of lower IQ and lower AQ people, and you might actually have something.

-T

Wow, cool! (1)

viega (564643) | about 11 years ago | (#6401075)

I just learned that I apparently have some "fans" (just one or two). I got curious, and went to see what I could learn about them. I got to Mensa Babe, and then I learned that I may be autistic!

Excellent... now I've got a good excuse. Thanks, Mensa Babe!

I am not the best.. sigh (1)

notque (636838) | about 11 years ago | (#6407920)

I scored a 30. Not sure what that means, but ah well.

You're quite an accomplished troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 11 years ago | (#6408346)

"Feeling sorry for someone because they are not as smart as you is the worst form of elitism. Ask yourself if you would tolerate such patronization from someone who felt sorry for you because (s)he was better looking than you. Doesn't feel so good, does it?

I've always held that intellectuals are far more guilty of social exclusion than the beautiful. Furthermore I believe that bias based on appearance is often more justified. Although both appearance and intellect is largely based on genetics I truly believe we have more control over our appearance than we do over our minds. Facial and other asthetics aside the shape of someone's body tells you more about their attitude and self respect than any intellectual measure. As far as I'm concerned someone who is obese is demonstrating a lack of respect for themselves; a trait that is not in the least bit appealing in a friend."

- a true genius

Obsessed Much? (1)

Alric (58756) | about 11 years ago | (#6408586)

I think maybe you should rethink this whole Mensa obsession you seem to have. I have found that IQ is a pretty shitty indicator for anything important. If someone has a high IQ, I know that person will be able to follow my logic. That's about it.

In the broad spectrum of human qualities, I find that to a relatively insignificant attribute.

For your statistics, my IQ was 161 when I was tested two years ago. It's probably around 158 now, but that's based mostly on speculation. My AQ was 10.

Pretentious (1)

Baikala (564096) | about 11 years ago | (#6416894)

You aren't coming up with any conclusion but:
"My score is 31, 31 should be the right score for the really smart ones like me"

I like cheese. (1)

Sarcasmooo! (267601) | about 11 years ago | (#6426908)

will u go out wit me?

i mean, if u r hot will u go out wih me? with m? wth me? WITH ME? WITH ME.....?
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