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More masturbation, meat, and a little NADD.

$$$$$exyGal (638164) writes | more than 11 years ago

User Journal 17

I'm going to write another one of those "private thoughts" entries soon, but here's some followups to some of my previous entries!I'm going to write another one of those "private thoughts" entries soon, but here's some followups to some of my previous entries!

Never has masturbation been so newsworthy. Now it seems that chronic male masturbators are less likely to develop prostate cancer. Perhaps this is yet another reason why males masturbate excessively? Could evolution have had something to do with this? Perhaps, but this is pushing it. Maybe the non-chronic masturbators of the far-past were much more likely to die of prostate cancer. As a result, maybe those prostate cancer sufferers were less-able to support the tribe?

More labels on your meat? Some people say yes, and others say no. This seems like a no-brainer to me. Put the freaking country of origin on the packaging! That is such a baby-step, but a step in the right direction. You meat-eaters should know what you're putting in your belly. Those who say this will add to the cost of meat are living in some fantasy world :). This will not add to the price of meat. How could it?

One last unrelated link I found in the blog-universe. Do you have N.A.D.D. ? Many on Slashdot do, including one of the current contestants.

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Masturbation (1)

Pervertus (637664) | more than 11 years ago | (#6478887)

I certainly wish I could masturbate right now.. but I guess I'll have to wait at least 3 days till my dick heals from over masturbation. :((
I wonder if it happens to girls too.

Re:Masturbation (1)

XO (250276) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479163)

lol "over masturbation"...

Try some lube, bud.

Yes, it could happen to girls too, but they tend to self-lubricate better.

Lube (1)

Pervertus (637664) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479212)

Lube doesn't fit with my self-pleasuring habits.
You see, before masturbation I enjoy watching porn while rubbing my pants. I think that this action hurts my you-know-what the most, and putting lube in my pants would be a bit.. awkward.

Re:Lube (1)

XO (250276) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479695)

In that case, I'd recommend sweat pants, have silk boxers on (that creates it's own interesting thoughts), but definitely don't wear blue jeans with nothing under them and do that.

I can certainly think of one time when I was much younger, with just blue jeans on, that I think I caused friction burn to me and my partner .. ouchie

Adding to the price (2, Insightful)

Phroggy (441) | more than 11 years ago | (#6478961)

This will not add to the price of meat. How could it?

I believe the idea is: say ground beef from your own country costs $2.00/lb, but ground beef imported from somewhere with lower wages etc. only costs $1.75/lb. Say both are available in stores. The proposed labeling will allow consumers to choose domestic meat, even though it costs more (whereas before consumers could only go by price) - and as demand for the foreign meat goes down, stores stop carrying it. Now the only ground beef available in stores costs $2.00/lb.

Re:Adding to the price (2, Interesting)

$$$$$exyGal (638164) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479211)

True. Consumers choose to stop paying for the cheaper meat, so the cheaper meat disappears. As a result, the price of meat "appears" to have gone up.

Still though, this is indirect, and is how a free market with informed consumers is supposed to work :). If the British cow-farmers want Americans to continue buying their cheaper(?) beef, then they will need to start a marketing campaign that says why their beef is better than American beef. Eventually, whoever can convince the American consumer that their country's/company's beef is:

  1. the safest.
  2. the most humane.
  3. the cheapest.
  4. the tastiest.
will win. Some Americans just want the cheapest meat, regardless of the other stuff, but not all Americans. Let the marketing and competition begin!

Re:Adding to the price (1)

Pervertus (637664) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479233)

the most humane.

"And besides of our renowned quality, you'll know that here in Wendy's, our cows really spent quality time and had a great life. Before we slaughtered them, that is. Doesn't this make your conscious feel much better?"

err conscious == conscience (1)

Pervertus (637664) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479247)

Re:Adding to the price (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479468)

Still though, this is indirect, and is how a free market with informed consumers is supposed to work :).

Which is why I'm in favor of the idea. One argument against it, though, is that British beef may in fact be more safe/humane than American beef, but Americans will irrationally buy American beef anyway just because of the "Made in USA" label, no matter what the British beef industry does. The country of origin is not ENOUGH information for consumers to make an informed choice.

Similar issue with genetically modified (GM) foods. Oregon almost got a law passed requiring labelling, but it didn't quite make it. It wasn't a very well-written law anyway, from what I understand, but would have been a good start. GM foods aren't even legal in the EU AFAIK, but in the US they're not even labelled. Again, the GM food companies claim GM food is perfectly safe, and labelling would lead consumers to make irrational choices due to baseless fear.

Re:Adding to the price (1)

Zirnike (640152) | more than 11 years ago | (#6480497)

Well, another problem is logistics. Having to track them seperatly adds cost inherently, without even any change in 'real' value.

Ever wonder why the total of a set of spare parts are so much more than, say, a whole car? The costs of stocking, keeping track of revisions (or in the case of food, spoiling), having 2 sets of storage locations, pricing labels, etc. etc. adds onto the effective cost of the item. We charge 3X over our cost for parts... Partly for profit, but 1.5X is just the logistics and storage costs (and packaging, but that doesn't count here).

Meat, Meat Beating, and NADD. (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 11 years ago | (#6479280)

I'll skip the meat beating. I work in porn, the last thing I want to do on a weekend is think about more porn. :)

Ok, I'll skip the NADD thing too. I'm a prime candidate to send in a screen shot. I just woke up, got on my laptop with a 1600x1200 screen, and have mail (with like 100k messages in various boxes), Mozilla til 6 tabs open, 4 xterms with SSH sessions to various servers, and GAIM (ICQ) open.. I'm just getting rolling. I'll probably have more xterms up soon, and GIMP to fix some lame graphics.. :) I'll really need a photo, since I'll be on my cell modem in the car and then on the beach in a few hours.. :)

On to the meat..

I'd actually like to see packaging with information on the meat down to the farm it was raised at.. Country? No, I want to know what farm in what city.. But that's really impractical.
I used to live on a farm. Small farms from all over the area go to cattle auctions where they trade animals, and sell them for slaughter. They don't necessarly do really good tracking of the animals.. Like, I as a small farmer, could go to the auction, buy a calf, take it to another farm, or sell it to another farm almost anywhere. It'll go to another auction at slaughter time, where anyone can buy the meat.. Like, a farm in the middle of Florida may go to auction, and sell to "Big Meat Packing Co" based in Atlanta, who then sells the meat to McDonalds or a big grocery store chain.. By the time it gets to the destination, they don't know it came from a little farm in Florida..

With most small farms, it wouldn't do the consumer much good to know that it came from them. We may only take cattle to auction once or twice a year, so it'd almost be impossible to hope to get meat from them again. Like, say you really liked a steak from a particular farm. You're not going to get another one for 6 months to a year, assuming you luck out and get it from them.

Knowing the country or origin doesn't do much good, other than knowing you aren't going to get Mad Cow or some such.. I'd like to konw if the meat came from a small farm or big commercial farm.. Small farm meat takes a whole lot better than meat from commercial farms.. It's mostly in how the cattle is raised.. Our cattle were fed grain and hay, and had free roam of a nice size property and were well taken care of.. But of course, when someone looks at the tag and sees "JWSmythe-Ranch, Ocala, Florida, US", they don't know anything about that farm..

ADHD and maybe NADD (1)

gearheadsmp (569823) | more than 11 years ago | (#6480029)

I'm positive that I have very bad ADHD, since I got a D in both Spanish I and Latin I (and thus was wavered from the Foreign Language req. in High Screwl). And I routinely have 3-6 tabs in Mozilla open, along with several tabbed conversations in Gaim, and 2-4 Xterms running. And from reading the descriptions of the people from the NADD contest, I wouldn't be suprised that I have that too.

Chronic? Excessive? N.A.D.D? (1)

glenebob (414078) | more than 11 years ago | (#6480133)

I can't speak for the rest of your friends list, but I for one am becoming more interested in why you seem to have such an axe to grind on the subject of 'chronic' and 'excessive' masturbation.

Now on to another subject... I've decided that I can't possibly have N.A.D.D. The reason I know this is that when I saw that Windows screen shot I just laughed. There is only one row of icons on the task bar and you can actually read large bits of their titles! Come on... you aren't even beginning to have a cluttered desktop when you can still read titles on your icons. You have to at least fill up the first row, and prefferably be well into your second. At three rows, I'd say you're well into a desktop clutter problem. I'm sitting at a full first row right now and I'm not even working. This machine has only been running a week or so. It's a Saturday and I'm just doing a quick /. check (well, not so quick now I guess). No, whatever I have is not even in the same ball park as what those folks have.

Re:Chronic? Excessive? N.A.D.D? (1)

ces (119879) | more than 11 years ago | (#6483491)

Now on to another subject... I've decided that I can't possibly have N.A.D.D. The reason I know this is that when I saw that Windows screen shot I just laughed. There is only one row of icons on the task bar and you can actually read large bits of their titles! Come on... you aren't even beginning to have a cluttered desktop when you can still read titles on your icons. You have to at least fill up the first row, and prefferably be well into your second. At three rows, I'd say you're well into a desktop clutter problem. I'm sitting at a full first row right now and I'm not even working. This machine has only been running a week or so. It's a Saturday and I'm just doing a quick /. check (well, not so quick now I guess). No, whatever I have is not even in the same ball park as what those folks have.

That's nothing the true windows N.A.D.D. type would either be using a vitual desktop extention or multiple monitors. Even better is Linux since both Gnome and KDE come with virtual desktops. At my last job I would typically have a couple of browser windows with multiple tabs open, many ssh and shell windows, a few emacs or nvi windows, a VMware session, and RDP sessions to a couple of windows servers (one with Outlook, and other windows user app junk, the other with a bunch of 2000 management stuff open)

Great, just what we need.... (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 11 years ago | (#6493504)

This seems like a no-brainer to me. Put the freaking country of origin on the packaging! That is such a baby-step, but a step in the right direction. You meat-eaters should know what you're putting in your belly.

Just what we need: a totally non-objective and useless piece of information being printed on our food to help promote our geographical prejudices. There is a short list of things I need to know about my meat. Let's use beef as an example. I need to know: the FDA grade, what kind of cow it came from, where on the cow it came from, what they fed the cow, what percentage is fat, and how old it is. These are all things that my local butcher already tells me. The location the cow came from would just be either a reason to charge me more for the cut (it came from a premium area) or reason for people to make uneducated and ethnically biased decisions about their meat purcahses (Imagine having to hear "I don't want any of that fucking jewish meat from Israel", or some other nonsense while you're shopping). We're supposed to be breaking down all these social barriers.

The location the meat came from is useless information without knowledge of meat production facts of the particular area anyway, so why waste money keeping track of it?

Re:Great, just what we need.... (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 11 years ago | (#6493555)

I hate it when I reply to myself, but...

You know what would be useful instead of the location the meat comes from? They should tell us if the animal was treated with antibiotics, and if so whhat kind and how much. That would actually tell us if the cow was raised in a responsible manner, or if the farmer was helping to produce resistant strains of deadly diseases.

Doubtful... (1)

plnrtrvlr (557800) | more than 11 years ago | (#6498086)

It seems doubtful to me that masturbation could have provided enough of an evolutionary benefit in ages past. Men died at an early enough age that prostate cancer was a non-issue. What is more likely is that evolution didn't care that male semen was "toxic" to the body over the long term, precisely because of that fact. Therefore, the only way to realize any benefit from mastubation was to extend our lifespans. I want to live forever, maybe I'd better find more time in my work schedule for keeping prostate cancer at bay!
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