Journal Surak's Journal: Weekly Recap(tm) is delayed and is currently in process... 27
But in the meantime, a poll:
Is netiquette dead?
Do you think, in light of the September That Never Ended[*], that netiquette is dead? I recently had an e-mail I sent to someone in private -- containing informatino of a private nature -- posted on a public forum without my permission. Call me an old fart, but in my day, you didn't do that. You asked permission before you forwarded such mails, and certainly before you posted them in a public forum.
This person may or may not know that that is improper netiquette, as they haven't been on the Net as long as some of us here.
So...is netiquette dead?
A) Yes. What kinda cave have you been living in?
B) No. Netiquette is just common sense.
C) I hope not. If you're in the cave, I'm in there with you!
D) I have NO IDEA what you just said.
[*] September that never ended: If you have no idea what I'm talking about look it up. No, it's NOT a 9/11 reference. But if you have to look that up, you're probably clueless anyway and should just answer D.
Update: I'm extending the definition of the September that Never Ended to include e-mail and Internet forums at large, not just USENET.
A... (Score:1)
I gave up Usenet in the mid-90's. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low for me.
Damn AOLers...
Re:A... (Score:2)
Re:A... (Score:2)
I started in 1991. And it was good. I was a frequent reader of alt.folklore.urban, alt.religion.kibology among others (rec.arts.erotica?).
Before AOL, the whiping boy ISP was delphi, though in those days anyone posting from a .com domain was suspect.
Re:A... (Score:1)
Ehh, piss off. My school didn't hand out usenet access to ANYONE. Bastards. Delphi was the only choice.
Seriously, I'm familiar with the idea, but not the term 'sept. that never ended'. I'm not sure that things are any worse. And the S:N ratio on Usenet... Just gotta pick the right groups.
Re:A... (Score:2)
Couldn't agree more. I too first found the net in 1988, and yes, it was good. The funny thing is, I (and many of my friends) used to long for the time when everyone would be on the net -- it was such a civilised place to be, and a great way to communicate. Now they're all here, I'm pining for the days when they weren't. What we were all too naive to see at the time was that it was only such a great place because we were all ed
B - No, but you have to work at it these days... (Score:2)
Those newsgroups and mailing lists that have survived do so because the majority of the participants share a common interest in ensuring the group's continuation. And I should probably know by now, having participated in several newsgroups and mailing lists for extended periods over the last deca
Re:B - No, but you have to work at it these days.. (Score:1)
This is true with the comp.lang.c++ and comp.lang.c groups (the only two I still post on). Since my beginnings in 1994, I've always found these groups to have excellent moderators and regular posters that helped newbies. They helped me understand netiquette and the whole usenet culture.
It's sad that those with experience would rather flame or dis
C? (Score:2)
I like when people are polite and civil, i like it when people remember to use common sense. And when they don't, i shoot to kill... (mostly kidding.)
Honestly. More villages would be spared if the residents had thought to send their relatives thank you notes. (who did you think sent me round to visit?) i'm aghast at the
Re:C? (Score:2)
And I'm *incredibly* strong with hating 4u and shit - I run a website for the assorted youth at my church, and I'm seriously thinking about adding a lameness filter to it which is triggered by crap like that.
Me too! Me too! (Score:1)
Re:C? (Score:2)
Re:C? (Score:2)
Yeah...you know your times tables!
(Get it? Rabbits? Multiplication? What?)
Re:C? (Score:2)
But pretty much what I had in mind, yeah.
Dirty minds think alike?
B, but clarification (Score:2)
but in any event, sometimes forwarding stuff you get in a private method is just too good to not forward.
Re:B, but clarification (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:You must hate me. (Score:1)
Exception of course for NANAE, that's a continuous flame war.
Oh, and Surak. I'd have to say C. I'm in my own little internet cave, I don't go out there into AOL land. They scare me with their pitchforks and torches.
I disagree... (Score:2)
This is the same with 'traditional' mail, once they've recieved your communique you have no control over what is done with it, and who reads it. Therefore you should have no expectation of privacy once it's been recieved.
This isn't to say, that I condone redistribution of personal information, nor that I would redistribute it, but that I don't feel that it
Re:I disagree... (Score:2)
Ask anyone who's been on the Internet longer than sayyy...10 years, before the endless september, and they will agree with me.
Re:I disagree... (Score:2)
Re:I disagree... (Score:1)
Now... (Score:1)
By the way: C is the answer! Most people do accept netiquette once you have enlightened them. Of course I don't frequent AOLers.
it's not dead (Score:1)
C, I guess (Score:1)
I started on the 'net back in 1989 when most accounts were .gov, .mil, or .edu. Most of the .com accounts at that time were people at places like ibm.com who helped build the internet, so you couldn't complain about them being there. It may be pure nostalgia, but it certainly seems like the general level of
E) ALL etiquette is dead, not just on the net. (Score:2)
B, with additions (Score:2)
A. (Score:2)
Progress, sadly, is inevitable.