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Get it right you damn incompetents!

Snaller (147050) writes | about 11 years ago

The Internet 7

Damn, is a lot of the web written by incompetents. And i'm not talking about the content, but the composition of HTML. Even if you are just a bit myopic it can be though reading all the small letters that usually ensues from misuse of Stylesheets (in MSIE you can't change the font size if someone twit has specified an absolute font size) - but now the progressive Brits have made it a crime if you don't design your pages prop

Damn, is a lot of the web written by incompetents. And i'm not talking about the content, but the composition of HTML. Even if you are just a bit myopic it can be though reading all the small letters that usually ensues from misuse of Stylesheets (in MSIE you can't change the font size if someone twit has specified an absolute font size) - but now the progressive Brits have made it a crime if you don't design your pages properly - God save the Queen!

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Obligatory Response (1)

LPetrazickis (557952) | more than 10 years ago | (#7005027)

Why on earth are you using MSIE when Opera and Mozilla Firebird both offer superior interfaces and engines?

BTW, Opera will switch to Google-style text ads in the upcoming 7.20 release.

Re:Obligatory Response (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 10 years ago | (#7008869)

Obligatory obligatory response *G*

Because they don't quite support some features from MSIE which are required to view some sites. Although its a long time since i've tried Opera, i tried Firebird just recently and there were other things that annoyed me enougt that i think it would be a problem in the long run. Oh well, can't win(don't try).

How will Google style text adds work in Opera? Will it insert adds on the pages you view, or?

Re:Obligatory Response (1)

LPetrazickis (557952) | more than 10 years ago | (#7009781)

How will Google style text adds work in Opera? Will it insert adds on the pages you view, or?

They replace the current rather innocuous banner in the top toolbar space of the earlier versions with two Google ads. On secure and unindexed sites, you see a Buy Opera banner. Note that this was introduced in beta 10 or 11 which wasn't announced very loudly.

Chances are, if a pixel-perfect IE site doesn't work in Firebird, it won't work in Opera either, but I could be wrong.

Re:Obligatory Response (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 10 years ago | (#7011179)

Well, perhaps I'll give Opera a try again (just for you ;) when i've recovered from a disk crash :-/

One thing i didn't like about Firebird was that it insisted on storing datafiles in the windows directory (much like "My Directory") an ideal program for me is something which only stores its information in its install directory. Alas they are few and far between.

Re:Obligatory Response (1)

LPetrazickis (557952) | more than 10 years ago | (#7012208)

One thing i didn't like about Firebird was that it insisted on storing datafiles in the windows directory (much like "My Directory") an ideal program for me is something which only stores its information in its install directory. Alas they are few and far between.

In that case, you should check the single-user check box when installing Opera. That will keep the datafiles in the same directory as the executable.;)

Re:Obligatory Response (1)

Snaller (147050) | more than 10 years ago | (#7012795)

OOh, 1 point for Opera :)

But it probably uses a bloaware installer (which just needs to store several megs of guff on the c drive), or fill up the registry with typelibraries classids *G*

But i'll give it a shot in a few days.

Which browswers are broken? (1)

geoswan (316494) | more than 10 years ago | (#7014846)

Because they don't quite support some features from MSIE which are required to view some sites.

OK. Isn't what you are describing here a result of nasty Microsoft's policy of "embrace and extend"? Isn't what you are describing a consequence of Microsoft not complying with the HTML standards? Doesn't Microsoft FrontPage generate broken web-pages with non-compliant HTML, which require broken Internet Exploder, designed to interpret those broken pages?

This is my understanding of why some pages only work with Internet Exploder.

If I have this right, it is a nasty, nasty thing. As nasty as Microsoft building windows 3.1 to crash spectacularly if invoked from DRDOS. The public has been fooled. They believe that the other browsers are broken. But it is my understanding that it is really Internet Exploder and FrontPage that are broken.

Maybe, as a practical matter, we can't boycott all software that uses non-compliant extentions, but shouldn't we burn with resentment over it?

So, what should someone do if their PHB makes them use non-conforming software for developing web-pages? Why not restrict oneself to using the subset of what FrontPage generates that is compliant with standards?

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