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Like I was saying: 'Foot off the brake'

smitty_one_each (243267) writes | 1 year,11 days

User Journal 8

The August jobs numbers are disappointing. The economy gained 169,000 non-farm payroll jobs, below the estimated figure of 175,000. Much worse, however, were the downward revisions for past months. July’s job numbers went down 58,000. The total revision for June and July is 74,000 less than previously expected. Then there is the labor participation rate: It dropped to 63

The August jobs numbers are disappointing. The economy gained 169,000 non-farm payroll jobs, below the estimated figure of 175,000. Much worse, however, were the downward revisions for past months. Julyâ(TM)s job numbers went down 58,000. The total revision for June and July is 74,000 less than previously expected. Then there is the labor participation rate: It dropped to 63.2 percent. It hasnâ(TM)t been this low since 1978. Because so many people have left the work force, the percent of unemployed (i.e. those who havenâ(TM)t checked out of the job market) went down to 7.3 percent.
It is long since past the time that we can attribute feeble job growth to the financial collapse in 2008. The âoerecoveryâ started in the second half of 2009. What we see now is the Obama economy â" more people out of the job market, minimal growth and tepid job creation. The president is right â" we are no longer in a tailspin. The TARP and other financial measures that President George W. Bush put in place and Obama continued staunched the bleeding long ago. But we have a listless economy, a function of combined tax, regulatory and budget policies.

But, hey: let's start a war in Syria now, and have ObamaCare kick in next month.
Because there is no point in putting a stake in the heart of the economy if you're not going to match it with one up the sphincter. Bonus points if you can get them to make contact.

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Partisan war mongering (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | 1 year,11 days | (#44780763)

How is it that when GWB took us to war it was described as an economic stimulus for the country but when President Lawnchair suggests tossing some missiles into Syria it is a huge drain and an economic calamity?

I've said before that there is no winning hand for the game with Syria. Kill Assad, we lose. Ignore him, we lose. Do something else, we lose as well. I generally oppose war and I do oppose this conflict because there is no way to win. My heart aches for the Syrians but I don't see how we can improve the situation with bombs.

Re:Partisan war mongering (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | 1 year,11 days | (#44782621)

How is it that, after the better part
Of a decade decrying W's cowboy heart
We have Dems demanding doubling down
Now that we're led by a rodeo clown?

We laid down enough blood and treasure to buy Iraq, but BHO pissed it away so fast. Pretty much done the same in Afghanistan, and I saw that debacle up close and personal in 2011. Is the moral of the Syria adventure that we never learn?
You'd of been freaking out if W had referred to the U.N.'s work as "hocus pocus [breitbart.com] ". Is BHO trying to curry favor with those who'd like to scuttle the House of Anti-Semitism? (My contention is that the U.N. is slightly better than no U.N., and I agree with John Bolton that we need to reform that hot mess.)

Re:Partisan war mongering (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | 1 year,11 days | (#44782987)

First of all, you forgot to close your limerick with Burma Shave.

Second, I don't agree with attacking Syria regardless of who is cheerleading for it. I'm not sure if you are trying to classify me in with the "dems" so I want to make it clear that I do not see this as a winning strategy regardless of how it is performed.

We laid down enough blood and treasure to buy Iraq, but BHO pissed it away so fast.

Could you clarify what you mean by this statement? From my perspective Iraq was A a terrible idea from the start and B a quagmire from day 1. I never saw a coherent plan for the invasion or its aftermath, and I'm not sure how we were able to "buy" it. Furthermore I don't see how President Lawnchair was able to make the situation any worse, or how anyone possibly could have even if that was their intent. We should have left earlier - as in we should have never gone in.

Is the moral of the Syria adventure that we never learn?

Being as we haven't done anything but talk about it, that is unclear. If we invade it with no coherent strategy as we did Iraq, then yes it would appear we didn't learn anything. If we toss some missiles in there, that would support only the notion that we are trying to conserve our own living resources without really worrying much about downstream consequences - unfortunately doing nothing would likely bring about the same conclusion.

You'd of been freaking out if W had referred to the U.N.'s work as "hocus pocus".

First of all, you want "have", not "of". Kind gift from my inner grammar nazi provided at no charge to you :)

That said, I see a lot of similarities between what President Lawnchair is doing with the war drum here and what GWB did. He has even assembled what appears to be another "coalition of the willing", just with different members who just like before are mostly not committing any actual resources. I opposed invading Iraq and I don't see a beneficial end game to attacking Syria either.

Re:Partisan war mongering (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | 1 year,10 days | (#44785643)

1. Wasn't a limerick, just a couple of couplets.
2. The topic was a generalization of the last decade on the topic of saber rattling.
3. That was Jimmy Buffet allusion. I'm willing to agree that the verdict of history goes to W's critics: the idea of adventuring in the M.E. was bad. My point was that Obama just hasn't delivered any sort of improvement. Perhaps such was never possible.
4. "Being as we haven't done anything but talk about it, that is unclear." Concur. What worries me is the sheer naïveté on display. "If we toss some missiles in there" is not an uncommon way of thinking about it. My gut is that if we drop bomb #1, that it becomes a "penetration, however sleight" pretext for the excrement to hit the air fertilizer, and then blame the U.S. I totally hope I'm wrong. 5. "He has even assembled what appears to be another "coalition of the willing", just with different members who just like before are mostly not committing any actual resources." France and who? The French has historical regional interest.

I'm just in awe that, given the creakiness of the U.S. economy, we're even having this national conversation.

Well, if you're so concerned about the 'economy' (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | 1 year,11 days | (#44780857)

Maybe you should take a closer look at the pending 'free trade' deals they're trying to hide from public view, where global business contracts usurp local (you remember local, right?) law.

Why do you H8 Agenda 21 (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | 1 year,11 days | (#44782645)

Don't you know that, surely as ManBearPig's carbon inferno is going to melt us, we're all going to 'splode if we don't cede our liberty to "experts" who know how to spend our money better than we do?
What specific 'free trade' deals are you referencing? The main items the Syria adventure is designed to detract from are things like the IRS scandal, Benghazi, the debt ceiling, defunding ObamaCare, the economy, etc.

Re:Why do you H8 Agenda 21 (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | 1 year,11 days | (#44783535)

:-) Purely partisan you are. Your complaints are hollow in such context, simply repeating popular memes.

Re:Why do you H8 Agenda 21 (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | 1 year,10 days | (#44785563)

You do me disservice. I've actually engaged in citizen journalism [theothermccain.com] on the topic.
I realize it's crucial for you to label, categorize and dismiss me, but, well, you're just wrong.
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