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Lay it out for me (Matrix Revolutions opinions, no spoilers)

FortKnox (169099) writes | more than 10 years ago

The Matrix 21

I'm gonna see it tonight. Tell me if you loved it, or hated it, and why. No spoilers, please (which means no reading from ACs, cause they'll try to spoil it).I'm gonna see it tonight. Tell me if you loved it, or hated it, and why. No spoilers, please (which means no reading from ACs, cause they'll try to spoil it).

Most of what I've heard was 'kinda bad' to 'I wish I never saw it.' Anyone have a good or decent opinion??

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Check My JE - No spoilers at the top but: (1)

llamalicious (448215) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410161)

But don't read past the 3rd paragraph!

(Hint: I give it a 90%)

Re:Check My JE - No spoilers at the top but: (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410271)

Cool, I'll check out the rest of your JE late tonight and add my $.02

Matrix III vs. Disneyland (1)

DaytonCIM (100144) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410204)

Disneyland wins tonight. My friends' opinions and what I have read here on /., I'm taking the wife to Disneyland tonight and not the movies. I'll wait until Matrix III is released on DVD.

*snore* (1)

sielwolf (246764) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410312)

Did you see Gods and Generals? That Civil War movie this year? I'd say it's equivilent: they got so caught up in doing what they had to do (have some kung-fu, wrapping up Agent Smith but making sure he's tough enough thing, what to do with all the romances, not slacking on any of the dozen characters they introduced, going over the Zion stuff), they forgot to make a good movie. Good film making demands pacing and control. Matrix Revolutions showed none of that. It has its finger down on the ACTION button the entire time until the entire experience is just noise. It was to the point where I began daydreaming of Kurosawa's Sanjuro and it's elegantly simple (and brutal) ending. Matrix Revolutions tries so hard to top itself that it topples to the ground in a mess.

It's exciting in the way catching a fight in front of a bar or a car shoot off the highway is exciting: makes the evening but you aren't going to tell your son about it in four years.

Truth be told I thought that The Rundown and Kill Bill I were far superior for the simple fact that they aren't trying to one up in front of the audience. I'd suggest either of those as quality action entertainment (that's still out) instead of the final Matrix chapter.

Re:*snore* (1)

buffer-overflowed (588867) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411273)

Link to Sielwolf's masterful rant on the movie is here [slashdot.org] for the lazy(or in case he updates his journal).

Personally, I don't get what's so great about any of the films. The effects are great, and were revolutionary, but I'm sick of bullet time.

If I want something really mentally stimulating, I'll read a book.

ghaa! (1)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410629)

subject line says it all.

I liked the movie--took yesterday off to see it and the two others--but it was fairly unsatisfying.

Honestly, I loved Revolutions. It gave me the kind of rush at the end that cinema rarely gives, and had plently of intellectual layers for later development.

But, while the layers are certainly there in Reloaded, the rush isn't. Or, rather, the rush is neutered by a @#$@!%Ting annoying plot twist... which I can expound upon later, once you've seen the movie. Suffice it to say that Revolutions and Reloaded would have been worlds better as a single five-hour movie.

I accidently read a spoiler (1)

SiliconJesus (1407) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410674)

Now I'm totally bummed.....

I won't give away what I read, but those of you understand, it came after a long-winded dialogue.

I'll still go see it this weekend.

I liked it (1)

jeffasselin (566598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410870)

better than Reloaded, for sure. It was certainly a good movie, and doesn't deserve the beating it's getting from the critics.

It also has many layers. If you look just at the top, it's an ordinary action movie. Understanding a lot of the finer points of the movie (mostly on a philosopical level) requires some more involvement and thought.

Some people complained about certain things not being explained to their satisfaction, but it's mostly because the explanations are inferred rather than simply "given out". to me, at least, it mostly made sense and was at least consistent (which is the most important feature of any sf/fantasy work, it must be consistent with its own rules).

F*** the naysayers, 'cuz they don't mean a thing (1)

Keith Russell (4440) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411346)

Let's put it this way. A group of us at work took a long lunch to "attend an intrusion detection seminar". When we walked out of the theater after the film, we tried to talk about what had just happened. One of us trailed off in mid-sentence while walking through the lobby, and we were in silence all the way to the car, when somebody finally said "Holy shit, we're gonna need another three-hour 'meeting' just to debrief!" We all agreed that it was a good confused.

The bad reviews I've read fall into three groups:

  1. People (critics or otherwise) who hated the first two, yet still felt compelled to see Revolutions. I wonder if the non-critics saw the film for the explicit purpose of self-justified bitching?
  2. Critics who were either unwilling or too time-constrained to attempt to seek the film's deeper subtexts. The reviewer in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette must have slept through the Neo-Councillor Hamann dialogue in Reloaded, because he cited the subject of that very conversation as a flaw in Revolutions.
  3. Fanboyz who were convinced that the ending in their head was freakin' awesome, and were let down when the Wachowskis didn't come to the same conclusion.

A little expectation management: Think Babylon 5 Season 4, not Star Trek:Voyager. :-)

Weeeel.. (1)

Deamos (108051) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411687)

I am going to go see in on sunday..

I have read the spoilers and lots of opinions...

I have decided that what I will do is go into the theater expecting to be hate the movie tremendously.. Which is not to hard after reloaded which I really did not enjoy very much, it took too much analysis.

That way no matter what I get I should be pleased. Or at least that is supposedly how this theory works. :)

Besides which, with the funeral tomorrow and all there is no way I can make it to a movie before the weekend, although I must say if Return of the King had opened last night... Well lets just say I have my priorities in order! :)

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411864)

I must say if Return of the King had opened last night... Well lets just say I have my priorities in order!

Ditto. I didn't take work off for either Matrix movies. I plan on missing a day for RoTK (although, I won't be doing the 12-hour 'Trilogy Tuesday' cause I don't think I can hand 12 hours of any movie), and our family is rotating who sees it and who watches the kids ;-)

As far as the Matrix Revolutions, I am placing my expectations low so hopefully I'll get surprised (expect the worse, hope for the best, as they say). ;-)

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

insanecarbonbasedlif (623558) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412050)

I am placing my expectations low so hopefully I'll get surprised

That's the route I'm trying to take too. Hopefully it will tremendously exceed my abysmal expectations, so that I won't feel like I wasted time ore money.

P.s. Work still beating you up?

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

Deamos (108051) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412233)

That's the route I'm trying to take too. Hopefully it will tremendously exceed my abysmal expectations, so that I won't feel like I wasted time ore money.
I seem to have hit on a semi popular thoght as far as this movie goes. :) Personally the money would have been spent on a movie more than likely but what I hate wasting is the time. Spare time to spend on *me* is in short supply these days, and will be more so going in to the new year. If this ends up being two hours that I regret spending on the movie it will really frustrate me, though I am expecting that from it.

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

insanecarbonbasedlif (623558) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412569)

If this ends up being two hours that I regret spending on the movie it will really frustrate me, though I am expecting that from it.

And ironically, (though, does it really need to be said?) it could be that very expectation of frustration that saves you from the actual frustration of the event.

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

Organized Konfusion (700770) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412927)

I just watched it, I went in with abysmal expectations and thought it was great, well compared to Matrix 2.

Expect the worse and you will love it.

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

ces (119879) | more than 10 years ago | (#7414458)

Well, I don't expect any of the Matrix movies to be all that bad.

While I didn't have the "my head just exploded" feeling I had after the first 5 or so times I saw "the Matrix", "The Matrix Reloaded" was still a decent film and likely one of the few movies this year worth bothering to find a real theater to see it in.

BTW "The Matrix Reloaded" ROCKED in IMAX. If there is an IMAX theater showing "The Matrix Revolutions" go see it there. I just wish "The Return of The King" was being released in IMAX format.

Side note: I generally only go see films in the theater nowdays if they seem to be the type of film that would benefit from a big screen and a multi-channel sound system. That said I did see "Seabiscut" in the theater.

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

ces (119879) | more than 10 years ago | (#7414620)

Ooops ... sorry forgot to close my bold tag properly.

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

NeMon'ess (160583) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415241)

If at all possible everyone should see Revolutions in IMAX. The clarity and immersiveness is something to behold. My theater ran a trailer for something involving NASCAR and that's so much better than a 35mm print. It took up the entire 40 foot tall screen.

The movie I'd give a 6 out of 10. The action was as good as Reloaded. There was less philosophising, which is good. Unfortunately there are so many things wrong with these two movies that I can't consider them true sequels. Someone at Warner Bros. needs to give another $150,000,000 to another scriptwriter and director to make a real sequel. A sequel that makes sense considering what was in the first movie.

Re:Weeeel.. (1)

Deamos (108051) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412203)

I didn't take work off for either Matrix movies. I plan on missing a day for RoTK (although, I won't be doing the 12-hour 'Trilogy Tuesday' cause I don't think I can hand 12 hours of any movie), and our family is rotating who sees it and who watches the kids ;-)
I won't be taking off work for the movie, but I will see it in the evening. No midnight showing to be the first to see it this year. I have found (thankfully) that I am no longer conditioned for working a full day on three hours of sleep. But that is a good thing. Anyway I sort of hope I don't hate it as much as I think I am going to at this very moment.

if you liked the first and second you'll like this (1)

subgeek (263292) | more than 10 years ago | (#7414368)

probably even if you only liked the second one a little bit. it isn't without things that could have been done differently, but all together i think it was enjoyable. i had a great time watching it.

Matrix 2 should have been, or 4 ought to be (1)

NeMon'ess (160583) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415380)

My thoughts. [slashdot.org]
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