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Unsurprising Conservative Media Move of the Week

damn_registrars (1103043) writes | about a year ago

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Since they don't have anything else to go for at this point, a conservative group funded by the Koch Brothers has decided to go full-on partisan with their attack on the health insurance company bailout act. They realized - even though some congresional conservatives have their own heads too far up their ownSince they don't have anything else to go for at this point, a conservative group funded by the Koch Brothers has decided to go full-on partisan with their attack on the health insurance company bailout act. They realized - even though some congresional conservatives have their own heads too far up their own asses to realize it - that the bill will go into effect. So what to do then? Apparently, they decided that the best thing to do is to encourage youngsters to break the law.

That's right. Since the conservatives can't defeat it any other way (in spite of the fact that it was their own fucking insistence that made a mandate a pivotal part of the bill) they are now encouraging people to break the law in order to (hopefully) make it insolvent.

It is really sad that the republicans are so desperate to prevent a democrat from being remembered as a successful president that they are willing to encourage unlawful behavior in youngsters in order to further their aim. The irony here though is that the republicans set themselves up for this failure; this bill has this structure because of their actions and became law because of the same. If they spent half as much time trying to do meaningful politics as they do trying to discredit 1600 Pennsylvania Ave they wound't be consistently rated as one of the worst congresses of all time.

The thing that keeps congress going on this path, of course, is obvious. While most voters believe congress to be deeply dysfunctional, very few voters believe their own congressperson to be part of the problem.

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The Health Care Bill (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year ago | (#44918417)

Is Welfare for Insurance Companies.

How can you support a plan that was developed by the Heritage Foundation?

Or do you love Fake Black Barry that much?

Re:The Health Care Bill (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44918757)

Is Welfare for Insurance Companies.

Make no mistake about it, I do not like this bill. I have for a long time been calling it the "Health Insurance Industy Bailout Act" as it is really just a massive handout to the HMOs and their bretheren.

How can you support a plan that was developed by the Heritage Foundation?

I would have voted no if I was a congressperson. If I was in congress I would have actually urged the people with power to write a bill that actually reformed health care, instead of one that just reinforced the current broken system.

Or do you love Fake Black Barry that much?

Obama has screwed up plenty, and there are plenty of things that he will have to own. However this bill was not his creation. He was effectively backed into a corner by the time it passed through congress, his choice was either sign it - to claim to have at least done something - or veto it and never see health care related legislation again. The republicans had no other plan for reform and promised to torpedo any other attempts. Even though this was not even remotely close to something that could be approximated as approaching the general idea of something that wants to discuss the idea of someday maybe possibly bringing about something that almost could be considered under the right guise to be reform, nothing better would ever make it to Obama's desk. This was his legacy, and unfortunately he allowed the conservatives to frame it for him.

Re:The Health Care Bill (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year ago | (#44918875)

Kill the bill.

Before you have to rent your health, from a megacorp, every day of your life - backed by garnishing wages or prison.

Re:The Health Care Bill (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44919425)

Before you have to rent your health, from a megacorp, every day of your life - backed by garnishing wages or prison.

How is that different from what we currently have? If we kill this bill we end up with the same crap that you just associated with it. This bill basically just assigns a partisan name to the current system and calls it reform. The only people who benefit from it are the people on the payroll at the insurance companies - but they managed to set themselves up a can't-lose scenario by buying out damned near every elected official in Washington. You'd be hard pressed to find an elected official who wasn't funded by at least one health insurance company.

Re:The Health Care Bill (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year ago | (#44919779)

Right now, you don't need to be insured, and take your risks...

Re:The Health Care Bill (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44919965)

I agree. Kill the bill. I don't care how many republicans say it.* I will stand with them. I find it deeply offensive that we will have to show "nachweis einer versicherung" to the IRS, of all people. We are being forced to make a declaration simply because of our existence, where before, you had to make a minimum income before signing zee papers [youtube.com] .

*They don't really mean it, not with the windfall that will come from it. I think it's a ploy to make anybody who actually opposes it look like a fool.. The entire Obama presidency is designed around this premise, and it has been extremely successful in dealing with opposition from all fronts.

Re:The Health Care Bill (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44921243)

Right now, you don't need to be insured, and take your risks...

However that path will still end up leaving you eventually indebted to the insurance industry. On top of that, there are many life choices that are not available to you (one significant one that comes to mind is public education - most colleges will not allow students admission if they cannot demonstrate that they have health insurance) if you opt not to carry insurance. Many employers also won't take full time employees who do not carry or purchase insurance.

Hence we really weren't to any great extent more free before the Health Insurance Industry Bailout Act. This bill just puts our fate into more certain terms.

Don't take it so literally (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44918659)

This little circus show is simply designed to keep the 85 billion-a-month "asset purchase plan" (the artwork formerly known as "quantitative easement") off the front page. It will be a real disaster if people start adding up the numbers.

Come on (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about a year ago | (#44918681)

so desperate to prevent a democrat from being remembered as a successful president

I just don't grasp what you could possibly mean here [wordpress.com] .

Re:Come on (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44919397)

so desperate to prevent a democrat from being remembered as a successful president

I just don't grasp what you could possibly mean here.

That is a nice collection of craftily drawn figures, but they are drawn for people like you who already hated Obama before seeing him, or knowing his name - knowing nothing but the party he was running under. They won't sway independents and anyone who isn't a conservative can see some of the obvious mathematical tricks and errors that produce those figures.

The GOP is more concerned with Obama's long term legacy, and doing everything they can ahead of time to discredit it. They would of course do this with any president who has the dreaded (D) after his name, but during this administration they are working extra hard, indeed it seems to be job 1 for the republicans in congress.

Re:Come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44920935)

Are you really a moron? Or do you just play one on Slashdot?

Re:Come on (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about a year ago | (#44921247)

The GOP is more concerned with Obama's long term legacy, and doing everything they can ahead of time to discredit it.

The Progressive GOP elite is getting chewed up by the cognitive dissonance of
(a) having played Obama's statist game for decades,
(b) seeing the logical result of what happens when too much power is concentrated in DC over decades,
(c) the rectal boot of the conservatives who read the GOP platform and can't figured out how these purported conservatives could snort so much Drano without having their heads 'splode.

As an example, stand by to see Senator Pom-Poms get primaried by Nancy Mace [nancymace.org] .
All of which is to say that, while one may dislike #OccupyResoluteDesk, nobody who's paying attention finds the chap more than symptomatic.
Or course, that's nothing to do with the pleasure of calling him a no-talent rodeo clown. Being the but of invective is the tiniest downpayment on the disaster he's brought to the country.

Re:Come on (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about a year ago | (#44924521)

Fucking hilarious! You guys are exactly alike. This has to be a gag.

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