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Slashdot Habits: Moving foes, profanity filter.

Chacham (981) writes | more than 10 years ago

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So, i had to remove more friends to make room for more foes. Too many foes. I wish this place had a profanity filter. Oh well.

Anyway, time to set up another user or two as profanity filters, and mod down foe of friend. I wonder if there's an easy way to transfer foes. Perhaps a perl script will do. I just wonder if /. will mind me doing a few hundred db queries, adding new foes to new users, and removing all mine.

So, i had to remove more friends to make room for more foes. Too many foes. I wish this place had a profanity filter. Oh well.

Anyway, time to set up another user or two as profanity filters, and mod down foe of friend. I wonder if there's an easy way to transfer foes. Perhaps a perl script will do. I just wonder if /. will mind me doing a few hundred db queries, adding new foes to new users, and removing all mine.

I guess it's not just the profanity that i don't want to see. There are three types of profanity users. Some, just to bother the user. The annoying ones. I don't want to see them at all. There is no point. Then, the proverbial "potty mouth". People who just use it all the time. Like the old Eddie Murphy, or Robin Williams. Unless i am told they are clean in a specific area, i think it best too keep away. The third, is the occasional. The occasional uses logic sometimes, but gets carried away in an emotional argument and starts using profanity. I don't want to see their profanity, and, i guess, i don't even want to see their argument, a profanity filter on some specific words won't help, because their entire post is just of no interest to me. Even blocking all their posts is fine, because as they get more serious, to the meat of a good argument, they get emotional and incoherrent.

There is another type. Similar to the occasional. However, they use profanity simply because it's there. They usually try to not use it, but it happens in conversation, and it doesn't bother them. They are not so much a "user" of profanity, more likely a slip. To those people, just having some plugin cover their words would be fine for me. I wonder if such a thing exists.

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22 comments

hey, everyone, quick! (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 10 years ago | (#7483877)

cuss more and see how long it takes us till Chacham has no friends!

Re:hey, everyone, quick! (1)

Dave2 Wickham (600202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7483914)

Why the f... uhh... why would you want to do that?

Re:hey, everyone, quick! (1)

intermodal (534361) | more than 10 years ago | (#7483947)

because it's fu...uh, funny!

I must say... (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7484095)

...any reasonable being can tell whether or not there's an idea beneath the surface of what someone is saying. I tend to be put off by people that embrace what society deems as "wrong" just to question that moral judgement, since there are better ways to do so, but refusing to hear harsh language does turn you off to a lot of reasonable ideas.

I guess my big question for you is, what do you have against profanity itself?

Re:I must say... (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7484178)

I believe that everything affects everybody, big or small. Hearing profanity, affects me to become more coarse overall, and even to think in such degrading terms. I know this because i used to use profanity a lot. When my sister stopped, i got jealous and copied her. There is a *big* difference.

Profanity is not the only thing. When i hear a radio commercials degrading others (Franklin Bank being of the worst offenders) i change the station, or turn off the radio. I don't watch TV anymore (except episodes that i download/buy). I don't want to watch, because after being away from it for a while, and seeing it again, i realized how perverse it actually is. I used to watch the "The Golden Girls" until i realized that the entire show was about insults, and i was enjoying it. In a sense, letting it be part of me.

I have chosen a path for myself. My movement along it may be slow, and not always in the correct direction. However, when i can zero in on a specific thing that has a negative affect on me, however little, i try to avoid it. Such is the case with profanity.

More recently, i was thinking about something, and i identified something in my mind with a profane word. That's scary. I see it too much. I hear it too much. It's something i need to take action against.

Note, two other things. One, i do not mean that anyone who uses it is bad. They can do what they want. I "foe" them, only because that's the only means availible to me. If /. allowed friend of foe, i'd use that instead. I can't use friend, because i already use friend for journal tracking. "Foe" is a misnomer. I use it more as "i want to bar myself from reading his posts".

The second thing, is something i have already mentioned. People who use profanity, in many cases, tend to use it when their emotions get the better part of them. In those cases, even if they don't use profanity, i wouldn't want to read those comments anyway.

Re:I must say... (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485173)

Gotcha. You know, my older brother used to be a staunch atheist, and has since converted to becoming a very, very devout Christian.

At first, he really refused to interact with society as a whole, fearing that worldy influences would lead him astray. The older he gets, the more he feels confident in his beliefs, and the more comfortable he feels around others who do not share those beliefs, and often encourage 'sin.'

I agree that profanity can have a subtle influence. My position is that the more you think about what you say, the less profanity comes to mind. Perhaps at some point not swearing becomes a habit and you can enter the unclean dialogue of the masses without your speech degrading. Of course, perhaps not.

One thing I do know is that people that demand high standards for themselves tend to rub off on other people, and that is a Good Thing (TM).

Re:I must say... (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485504)

My position is that the more you think about what you say, the less profanity comes to mind.

Very true. Though, i'd like to get to the point, where even if i don't think, i won't.

Perhaps at some point not swearing becomes a habit and you can enter the unclean dialogue of the masses without your speech degrading. Of course, perhaps not.

It's not just that i don't want to do it myself. It's that, speech reflects our thoughts. I don't even want my *thoughts* to be that course! (Even if i can't do that all the time, i'd like to be in control at least *some* of the time.)

One thing I do know is that people that demand high standards for themselves tend to rub off on other people, and that is a Good Thing (TM).

Yep. I've had the pleasure of being "rubbed off" on, and am all the better for it. :)

Re:I must say... (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485212)

I agree with the TV part. It seems that we got bored of seeing actors feel pain, so we needed to watch real people feel pain.

I especially love reality shows that bring young people together (actually, at 19 I'm younger than most of them heh), make them bond with eachother, and then make them vote one off at regular intervals. The writers don't want you to feel sad along with them...they want you laugh at them, and think that the show is really for people stupid enough to get wrapped up in it, and that you're excused because you're "above" it.

Re:I must say... (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485528)

Yep. That's about it.

I wonder why. Does TV lead the people in coarseness and stupidity, or do the people lead TV. Or....do people dream about it, have TV make it seem real, and then mimic it so it becomes real.

Either way, TV is so degrading now, i'm lucky i *finally* got away from it. Next on the list (and it may be far, far away) is to stop watching movies......

Re:I must say... (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485745)

Movies are different. Many movies actually do demonstrate rather fruitful ideas.

The point is to get away from baseless filth. You can safely cut the cable, but I would draw the line there.

Let's just face it...Survivor is more enticing than Gilligan's Island.

If it weren't for the massive swearing and violence, I'd reccomend the move The Running Man to you (maybe you've already seen it). Really, television is starting to look like that movie (and that's a bad thing).

Re:I must say... (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485776)

Well, i think Gilligan's Island is better. It's a comedy, and people are people, yet everyone respects one another. Perhaps that's part of the lasting quality.

Movies are different. Many movies actually do demonstrate rather fruitful ideas.

Granted. They are different, and do have good ideas. However, influence is influennce....

Re:I must say... (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7488078)

But blocking yourself to ideas on the basis of "influence" might be like cutting off your arm because you cut your pinkie.

Or maybe not...I dunno. It's all up to you. There are lots of movies that don't have a lot of swearing anyways.

Re:I must say... (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7488377)

Hey, it's a slow process. :)

Re:I must say... (1)

Com2Kid (142006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7486179)

I refuse to watch those shows because,

quite frankly,

nobody bleeds.

*shrugs* I am of the "survivor means face to face battle with a bear, no weapons!" school.

Would slashdot mind? (1)

turg (19864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7484252)

I just wonder if /. will mind me doing a few hundred db queries, adding new foes to new users, and removing all mine.

Practically speaking, if the perl script is coming from an "expendable" IP address (you don't mind if the IP gets banned) then it doesn't matter

OTOH, it's got to be a perl script that can log in to slashdot and return the correct cookie with each HTTP request.

You also can't just send a GET or a POST to the URL that the form is submitted to. Each time you want to submit the form, you have to first get the form page, extract the unique formkey variable (without which your form submission will be rejected) and use that in your submission.

Re:Would slashdot mind? (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7485010)

Nope, got a static ip. Perhaps i should ask them to do it for me? I could even write the SQL for them. :) The query runtime would be miniscule.

Re:Would slashdot mind? (1)

turg (19864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7489445)

Anyway, I don't think you'd get a permanent ban. I've run a friend-counting script (e.g. Chacham has 104 fans, 209 friends, 185 foes, and 15 freaks) against 100 user IDs in a batch without getting banned.

Re:Would slashdot mind? (0, Redundant)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7490270)

Thanx for the count. :)

With 185 foes, that's 370 queries though....

hey chacham. there is no profanity in this post (1)

subgeek (263292) | more than 10 years ago | (#7493619)

you probably won't see this unless someone replies. but i dislike posting anonymously.

profanity filter for you:
http://www.webattack.com/Freeware/misctools/ fwfilt er.html

i thought i'd find more, but it looks like it's easier to block sites rather than actively filter content. there's also a lot of stuff for message boards and chat clients. maybe you can find more.

Re:hey chacham. there is no profanity in this post (0)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7493825)

you probably won't see this unless someone replies. but i dislike posting anonymously.

That is usually the case. However, at least sometimes, the messages show me even filtered out messages. Even thgough, messages are only supposed to show me +1 and higher.

So, i saw the title, and decided to take a look. :)

profanity filter for you:
http://www.webattack.com/Freeware/misctools/ fwfilt er.html


Thanx i'll take a look. Looks neat at first glance. Perhaps when i get home.

there is still no profanity in this post (1)

subgeek (263292) | more than 10 years ago | (#7494033)

However, at least sometimes, the messages show me even filtered out messages. Even thgough, messages are only supposed to show me +1 and higher.

what a rip-off. i'm not even making fun of you. i feel cheated that you're being cheated. plus you try to ignore my presence. it's disappointing to find out that you see my posts without meaning to. i say if you want to ignore me you should be allowed. i don't run into that particular slashdot "feature" but at least in this case it might do you some good.

i agree profanity is over-used. i probably over-use it. it does mean someone is getting emotional. sometimes emotion is what needs to be expressed. i'm not saying it's always appropriate, just that sometimes it does give a meaning that is incredibly close to the intention. that's my opinion on the matter. i salute you in your quest. i don't agree with you on many things, but i do appreciate that you are making your own path to an improved chacham.

not sure if you've seen this one, too. that would be too much luck. just wanted to let you know there aren't any hard feelings.

Re:there is still no profanity in this post (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7494872)

i'm not saying it's always appropriate, just that sometimes it does give a meaning that is incredibly close to the intention. that's my opinion on the matter.

That i agree to. However, there are others ways to express the same thing. With the same emotion, yet some thought first. Filtering means there is fore-thought. When emotion is thought out, i actually would like to read it.

but i do appreciate that you are making your own path to an improved chacham.

Thanx. :)

not sure if you've seen this one,

I think i can follow this thread, since you marked it "safe". And, thanx.
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