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"blame the right people, not just white people"

smitty_one_each (243267) writes | about 8 months ago

User Journal 27

The good news is that, as non-whites themselves, their categorization of people by pigment cannot be considered prima facie racism. Less snarkily, there will be no improvement until we "redistribute power, not wealth", fustakrakich's cynical denials of the possibility be damned.

The good news is that, as non-whites themselves, their categorization of people by pigment cannot be considered prima facie racism. Less snarkily, there will be no improvement until we "redistribute power, not wealth", fustakrakich's cynical denials of the possibility be damned.

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Damn me all you want (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45811409)

You still will not ever separate wealth from power... Never never never... Not as long as might makes right remains the rule of the day. And so far, in this physical universe, that's all there is. Your eternal pontificating notwithstanding. You are still ruled by biology. Life is a reaction, and so is your religion.

Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45812611)

I'm not saying that sodium should leave chloride; rather, that a more even disbursal would such less than the current mountain of s**t in DC.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45812891)

That mountain of s**t was created by the wealthy to protect their wealth, as only they have the power to make/enforce the rules. And besides, that mountain is no different than all the little molehills of s**t in every other center of power/wealth in the whole world. It grows only by our own submission to authority. In effect, the mountain is built by our own hands in the mistaken belief that we get a piece of the pie.

And no, I don't blame "white" people. I blame the dominant people no matter the color. And more than that, I blame the people who serve and enable them. Either way, we're all the same. Somebody once said they have no problem with dictatorships, as long as they're the dictator. Your only problem with power is its distance and beneficiaries if you're not one of them, not its corruption and abuse.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45813065)

By the way, you can separate sodium from the chloride, but in this present primitive state of our evolution, you cannot separate wealth from power any more than you can separate Yahweh from Allah, and until you are dead you cannot separate yourself from your biology and all its foibles. In fact, that is why power and wealth are still one single thing with two names and descriptions.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45813513)

in this present primitive state of our evolution

Take a Biochemistry class, and then attempt to convince me we are "primitive".
Also, after the repeatable experiment that goes from the periodic table to self-reproducing life is developed, I will take "evolution" more seriously. Right now, I rate it at "slightly less malarky than Global Warming", but I'm not going to go betting your paycheck on its veracity.

you cannot separate wealth from power any more than you can separate Yahweh from Allah

It took me one or two Surahs to tell the difference between Judeo-Christian and Mohammad's theology. But I may not be a representative sample.

until you are dead you cannot separate yourself from your biology and all its foibles

For the several-th time, I'm not speaking of separating them; I'm speaking of re-arranging them.
The real question, by no means obvious in answer, is whether the advent of the Information Age makes enough of a difference to effect that. I submit that private sector business has been changed the last couple of decades, and what appears to be the recent kerfuffles (though they're hardly new) is the same process continued against the public sector. It's worsened by the likelihood that Holy Progress has run its course.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45814395)

...I rate it at "slightly less malarky than Global Warming"

It is no less plausible than your various deities creating life out of nothing. Most people just pick the story they were told as children, and that's what they stick with. It's an animal bonding thing. As for the 'global warming' thing you like to harp on, I figure you would sing a different tune if you were downwind of somebody's smokestack. And you kind of are. You're breathing Chinese smog right now.

For the several-th time, I'm not speaking of separating them; I'm speaking of re-arranging them.

My point is there is no 'them'. There is only 'it'. How do you rearrange one item? Move it to a different corner of the room? Power and wealth are two names for one thing. Only people with power have the power to redistribute power.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45815387)

creating life out of nothing

What happened before t0 in the universe, anyway?

As for the 'global warming' thing you like to harp on, I figure you would sing a different tune if you were downwind of somebody's smokestack.

I think the technical term here is non-sequitur.

How do you rearrange one item?

Continue to grow the use of social media, to get people to be less passive.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45815501)

What happened before god?

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45815551)

God is the origin of the concept of 'before'.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45815627)

Then what was before that? Turtles?

Re:Also (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45817133)

You are aware that time is a dimension, right?

Would you ask, "What was "width" before God"?

Actually, maybe you would. You don't seem particularly bright, or imaginative.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45818751)

Maybe you do things differently, but I measure time in seconds. minutes, hours, etc. Width is for something else entirely. You don't make sense, but you do seem somewhat entertaining. Are you somebody we all know?

Anyway, if god can exist forever, so can the universe. Maybe the universe is god. That would be very possible, as good as anything you people can come up with...

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45825287)

Time is the clay. It is not the potter.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45828455)

And even the clay came from somewhere... You have yet to show that everything doesn't have a beginning, middle, and end.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45828599)

Again: "beginning, middle, and end" are finite creations of you mind. You're applying local variables to a "scope" they can merely allude to in parables.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45830275)

Regardless, the universe itself and its laws of physics has the same claim to 'infinite' as your man made deity.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45830605)

No, "the universe itself and its laws of physics" are "simple handiwork". You're still missing the point of scope. Probably because it's crucial to your worldview.
However, IF the human mind is the upper boundary of all the things, THEN you're quite correct. But I don't subscribe to this conditional.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45830829)

..."the universe itself and its laws of physics" are "simple handiwork".

And so is your deity

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45831219)

As you say.

Re:Also (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45833357)

Time is intimately part of the physics universe (as Einstein demonstrated) time cannot exist independently of the universe. Time, being a dimension, REQUIRES space. Without space, there are no dimensions, hence, before the universe existed, there was no time. There couldn't have been. No width, no height, or no depth either

Therefore, asking what there was "before the universe" is an illogical question.

Re:Also (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45833947)

Einstein is not God.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45834541)

Therefore, asking what there was "before the universe" is an illogical question.

It exceeds the bounds of logic, yes.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45835041)

Then the universe has always existed and we are all god.

Re:Also (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45835807)

Yes. And although we are a subset of the entirety, we are all "of" God.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45835981)

Sorry, I just can't muster that level of faith.

Re:Also (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 8 months ago | (#45868609)

Yes, well, like I said, you have to get out of your box, and see the world uncensored.

Re:Also (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 8 months ago | (#45869961)

So, skepticism is a box, then?
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