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News: Prison guards forbidden to wear protective gear

Chacham (981) writes | more than 10 years ago

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Prison guards forbidden to wear protective gear

EDMONTON -- Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners. "If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," said Tim Krause.

Prison guards forbidden to wear protective gear

EDMONTON -- Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners. "If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," said Tim Krause.

"It interferes with what we call 'dynamic security.' We want staff to talk to prisoners, to see how they're doing."

Last month, Sun Media reported a guard at the Edmonton Institution was threatened with disciplinary action several times by prison brass for wearing a self-purchased stab-proof vest on the job.

The guard, who asked not to be named, said he intends to keep wearing the Kevlar vest.

"Yes, I'm violating the rules. But management is stepping on my right to defend myself," he said.

Kevin Grabowsky, of the Union of Canadian Correctional Officers, said the notion that inmates might be "offended" is a "complete crock."

Amazing. I understand what they are saying, but wow, is that ever stupid. There are ways to work it out. Such as have the vest under the shirt or something. But barring it? That's insane.

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I don't need a job THAT badly (1)

superyooser (100462) | more than 10 years ago | (#8636174)

Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners.

Not letting guards wear stab-proof vests sends a submissive GREEN LIGHT signal to prisoners. "Come and get me!" It's kind of like the message sent to al-Qaida by the voters in Spain.

"If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person

I think that putting those PRISONERS in nasty cells behind iron bars is sending a signal that you consider them to be dangerous people.

Sorry for being Captain Obvious today. I just wanted to pipe in.

Re:I don't need a job THAT badly (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#8636810)

Agreed.

Though, imagine if the prisoner's lawyer cam in with such a vest on. If the prisoner wants trust, that sure hurts it. Apparently, they are vying for that with the guard, a noble cause, and i can understand "why".

Unfortuately, the situation does not allow for it. What they *should* do, is talk with the guards and prisoners about what they can do to address these concerns. If there is a rule about the vest (that they must be worn) it won't hurt too much. Perhaps though, playting games with them, such as chess, or darts (velcro!) or the like would foster a better form of comradery.

That being said..... wow, what an insane idea.

What about steel bars (1)

Jaguar777 (189036) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637283)

Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners. "You're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," said Tim Krause

In other news, a prison in Canada is removing all steel bars and locked doors because it sends a distrustful "signal" to prisoners. "You're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dishonest person that will try to escape before serving a full sentence."

Re:What about steel bars (1)

Chacham (981) | more than 10 years ago | (#8638088)

a prison in Canada is removing all steel bars and locked doors because it sends a distrustful "signal" to prisoners.

You do know that some "prisons" in the US have no bars or fences.... Well, for non-violent crimes, where the escape risk is minimal, and the punishment for leaving the grounds is years more.

Not that i disagree with you. Justn thought i'd mentione it. :)
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