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Cthulhu's An Equal Opportunity Devourer

smitty_one_each (243267) writes | about 5 months ago

User Journal 10

4 Reasons Why Obamacare Exchange Premiums May 'Double In Some Parts Of The Country' In 20154 Reasons Why Obamacare Exchange Premiums May 'Double In Some Parts Of The Country' In 2015

Those with forked tongues might try to claim that ObamaCare is some kind of bailout for the insurance industry. Heck, insurance company weenies, themselves, may have believed it. But, like everything about Obama, it's just all a con. That is, a confidence trick, not anything a reasonable person would consider conservative. It's Obama's cock-up, and everyone's arse.
Now, after botching private insurance companies out of existence, we can expect we'll be told that we have some social imperative for "borrowing it forward" and implementing a Single Prey-er system.
Here is wisdom: people do not scale. If bogus health care programs cannot be made to work at the state level, then they surely shan't work nationally. And just because we've enjoyed being the world reserve currency these decades, and have been able to "borrow it forward" to make Socialism appear to work, isn't any sort of guarantee, if the territorial integrity of the Ukraine is any indicator.

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The US is a prosperous country (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#46551467)

Medicare for all does not have to "borrow" anything. And insurance companies won't be "botched" out of existence. They will flourish and grow bigger and stronger under this bill. You've been indoctrinated into preaching austerity by the very same con in your link. Private insurance can be free to compete in the market, instead of bastardizing it through bought and paid for legislation.

...people do not scale.

Pure propaganda! People can scale just fine. But there are some who are against it. They want to maintain a certain kind of "purity" and not let others enjoy the same privileges they have. They want servants and slaves and comfort women. They profit by building walls, not tearing them down. We need to shun these people, not believe their lies, much less reward them with wealth/power.

Re:The US is a prosperous country (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 5 months ago | (#46552087)

People can scale just fine.

Sure, but we're going to shave your head, put you in a uniform, and immerse you in an authoritarian system to do it.
Similarly, you can put wings on a bus, and if you move it quick enough, you get you some lift.
Doesn't mean a bus would make a proper aircraft, though.
No, my point stands: ObamaCare is a bureaucratic Tower of Babel, and the Bismarckian welfare state is played out.

Re:The US is a prosperous country (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#46552335)

Sure, but we're going to shave your head, put you in a uniform, and immerse you in an authoritarian system to do it.

Wrong, *live and let live* will do it. Replace coercion with cooperation. But first we have to evolve out of the biological urge to dominate and into rational human beings.

The state exists to serve the commercial interests that created it. It is part and parcel to all your capitalistic needs.

Re:The US is a prosperous country (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 5 months ago | (#46552419)

Thanks for making my point. Refusing to amalgamate people is another means of avoiding the scalability problem.

evolve out of the biological urge to dominate and into rational human beings

I contend that people are body & mind, and occasionally soul. This notion of evolving beyond nature might happen through some cyborg means or other, I guess. But I really don't have your level of faith.

What I really think (1)

Bill Dog (726542) | about 5 months ago | (#46554629)

This. [slashdot.org]

I.e.:

"are we going to get beat up because [next year’s premium increases will be] double-digit or are we just going to have to pull out of the program?”

The plan of course is the latter. If one of your pals is still trying to trick people into believing that the Left's path to put America onto single payer medicine is really a Republican plot to transfer wealth to insurance companies, the temporary and decreasing subsidy to these rich corporations is obviously merely about getting an economically unviable, AKA socialist, scheme entrenched. This is a multi-step plan of course and that's only the first. All you have to do is understand the Left and then look ahead.

And while that's part of the long view on this particular issue, there's also the tall view on issues in general:

It’s the people who aren’t eligible for large subsidies—those who aren’t poor enough—who will gradually be squeezed out of affordable options.

To borrow from the Left a certain way of phrasing something, but instead being dead serious about it, what they're *overall* engaging in is a war on the middle class. (Naturally, as follows.)

Of the rich, those on the Left and Right are already decided and probably can't be swayed. The former believe in collectivism and the latter individualism, but either way their futures are secure, so the latter are written off as small unattainable minority.

The poor is already decided, and they're taken for granted as unloseable. Like the Blacks; fucking 90-some percent voting D, every time. They're the dumbest demographic around. What have the D's really accomplished for them. Jack shit. But I digress. All I can say is that they went from involutary slavery to voluntary slavery. How dumb is that.

But the middle classes of America have historically been independent-minded and wanting to be like the rich, and believing in the American Dream that they had a chance at it. So what ultimately the Left wants/needs, is to put the squeeze on the middle classes, drive them into the lowers classes and the lower class mindset, by stagnating the economy and devaluing their earnings and making things increasingly unaffordable, i.e. unattainable on their own. I.e. get them to believe the message they've told the Blacks, that they can't make it on their own. (The infamous "you didn't build that" is along this line.)

Re:What I really think (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 5 months ago | (#46554693)

The middle class has not been energetic enough in doing the research and getting out the vote for reform-minded candidates.

Re:What I really think (1)

Bill Dog (726542) | about 5 months ago | (#46554741)

Pretty soon we won't want any reform. Things will be so hopeless we'll just be demanding our <whoever's president at the time>-bucks.

Re:What I really think (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 5 months ago | (#46554767)

I think the whole mess grinds to a halt before then.

Re:What I really think (1)

RailGunner (554645) | about 5 months ago | (#46565831)

I agree - watch the skies, He will be returning soon.

Don't believe me? They're burning aborted kids in the UK to heat buildings. How much longer do you think He'll let this continue?

Re:What I really think (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 5 months ago | (#46568947)

Quite honestly, I have no ideas other than to be ready.
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