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Rumsfeld in a world of hurt

illumin8 (148082) writes | more than 10 years ago

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Wow, when Fox News is running stories like this, you know things are getting really bad.

I don't actually expect Bush to do anything about Rumsfeld, but when pundits as blatantly biased as O'Reilly are calling for his head, maybe, just maybe, it might be time for the Bush adminstration to pull their head out of the sand and listen.

Wow, when Fox News is running stories like this, you know things are getting really bad.

I don't actually expect Bush to do anything about Rumsfeld, but when pundits as blatantly biased as O'Reilly are calling for his head, maybe, just maybe, it might be time for the Bush adminstration to pull their head out of the sand and listen.

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What Bush should do (1)

Stargoat (658863) | more than 10 years ago | (#9079309)

Turn Private English over to the Iraqi Provicinal government for punishment. Extract a promise that no permanent physical harm will be done to her and let them have at her.

Re:What Bush should do (1)

illumin8 (148082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9085058)

Turn Private English over to the Iraqi Provicinal government for punishment. Extract a promise that no permanent physical harm will be done to her and let them have at her.

I agree with you. Private English should be turned over to the Iraqi Provincial government for punishment, rather than a US military court. That way the Iraqi people would feel that justice has been done. There is only one problem with this: Under muslim law, wouldn't she be put to death for commiting sexual acts outside of wedlock? I don't think the American people would tolerate a public execution of her, no matter what crimes she's committed. Raping prisoners is surely punishable by death under muslim law. Thoughts?

Re:What Bush should do (1)

Stargoat (658863) | more than 10 years ago | (#9085685)

I think rape is a bit much. And I must admit, I think Muslim law is barbaric (but I think the same of Christian law, so there) and I hope Iraq doesn't adopt it. But spending 15-30 years in an Iraqi prison sounds about right. On the other hand, rape does meet a need for vengence.

Attractive, but wrong. On the other hand, that would be why she would be turned over. I'm not sure. Does it change anything that she's a mother?

Re:What Bush should do (1)

illumin8 (148082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9092721)

And I must admit, I think Muslim law is barbaric (but I think the same of Christian law, so there) and I hope Iraq doesn't adopt it.

Both Muslim law and Christian law are barbaric. Under both sets of laws she would probably be put to death. Most likely by public stoning or something equally brutal.

Does it change anything that she's a mother?

I don't really think so. We don't let mothers get away with crimes in this country, so the penalty should probably be the same. What do you think about sending her to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes, rather than turning her over to the Iraqi Governing Council? I think the Iraqis are so incensed by the pictures that she wouldn't really get a fair trial in Iraq. The US surely won't give her a fair trial; she'll probably get off with a slap on the wrist.

The only problem with the Hague is that America refuses to recognize it's legitimacy. I remember reading something about how the US wanted it's soldiers that operated in UN peacekeeping missions to be given a grant of immunity to war crime prosecution or something, and refusing to recognize the legitimacy of the international court, at least whenever a US friendly leader is accused of war crimes (like Ariel Sharon).
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