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More Lerner smoking-gun emails at IRS
Correspondence reveals administration collusion in attack on Tea Party groups
The 'nothing to see here, move along' chorus, so exhausted from pushing attention away from Benghazi (for now; wait until Hillary revvs it up in 2016), is going to have to redouble efforts on this one.
Correspondence reveals administration collusion in attack on Tea Party groups
The 'nothing to see here, move along' chorus, so exhausted from pushing attention away from Benghazi (for now; wait until Hillary revvs it up in 2016), is going to have to redouble efforts on this one.
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So, where are these "emails"?
Oh, here's a juicy one:
"an email to top IRS staff wrote that “folks from the FEC world,” were pressing for “tax-fraud prosecutions” for nonprofit organizations accused of lying about not conducting political activity."
Hmm, where's the word "conservative"? Ah yes, Washington Times, a replica of the Washington Post, but much more believable, where "he said-she said" is fact, right? Hey, if it's good for higher ad rates, what the hell...
I already know that t
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I guess if we're comfortable with the IRS turning into a third-world thug outfit instead of trying to reform it...
Well you must be, since you aren't voting, or even looking for anybody that acts sanely and rationally that would reform it. And the only way it can be reformed is if it is dissolved, abolished, because it is functioning nominally. There is nothing "wrong" with it. It certainly isn't acting any differently than it has since its inception. It has no credibility to lose. This is only a front page
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Can you cite a specific, past example of the IRS going after whole groups of people in support of a President?
Oh yeah, I heard about that [salon.com]. I guess the democrats eat their young also...
In the past you want.. Maybe this headline can provide a hint: Obama Goes Full Nixon [thecrimson.com]..(Yes, I think Obama is worse than Nixon, but I'm not worried, the next person will be worse still) What do you think the real purpose of the IRS is?
I also noticed that the people doing all the whining (including the one in the second link) ab
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I see. So the story, which would normally be very easy to verify if one is interested, is false then? More than one group was denied during the time in question? Or what?
What I'm trying to find out here is if the IRS is acting in any way different than it has in the past, aside from the fact that it was they who came forward in the first place this time around. So far, all indications are negative. Everybody is following the roles they were given when the universe came into being.
BTW, Walker is a republican
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How is it that we're clamoring for something different, then crushing every attempt to vote in anyone different? Walker (so far) hasn't sold out. I favor increasing the number of non-sellouts in DC until a tipping point is reached. Not saying it's going to be easy. However, saying it's "impossible" seems tantamount to BEING a sellout, for all practical purposes. Discuss.
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I'm waiting for you to resolve the contradiction between the impossibility of change within the system and the need to change the system.
The is no contradiction. The system needs to be tossed, as there is no possibility of change within it. It is working as designed. Read the sig, Luke...
How is it that we're clamoring for something different, then crushing every attempt to vote in anyone different?
Because you are not clamoring for something different. You're still being strung along by republicans
Walker (so
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Because you are not clamoring for something different.
Ah, you claim lack of difference, and dismiss everything thereafter. Fair enough: I'm not reading Joan Walsh, for example. Or the NYT, or that Senate Benghazi report.
So the challenge moves to restoring information exchange.
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Ah, you claim lack of difference, and dismiss everything thereafter.
Everything what? You are star struck by every republican that falls off the truck, and you never ask where the suitcase of money comes from. What is different about that? What "thereafter" are you talking about? What makes you think you can bring ideology into Vegas? I mean, yeah you can work the crowd with that stuff, and you can still attract them to the bearded snake woman at the roadside carnival, but you should be much more suspicious
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You You don't improve the result with sideline kvetching.
And you don't improve the result with kvetching about people or political parties you constantly reelect. And tell me, what am I "kvetching" about? Not about the politicians, or the government per se. So far all my "kvetching" has been about the dichotomy between your words and your actions. If you want to make a difference, you have to do something different.
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the dichotomy between your words and your actions
I've participated as actively as I've advocated. Is there some other standard to which you'd arbitrarily hold me?
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I've participated as actively as I've advocated.
I'm sure you have, but you are only advocating the same old crap with some Bondo and fresh paint. The facade is the only thing you're trying to change, in order to hide the fundamentals, not from me, but from yourselves.
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... we were better off before the Wilson Hijacking of a century past.
Waddya mean "we", *rich* man? You got a mouse in your pocket?
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Oh, and now that you've had your two minute ad hominem, a copy of the actual emails would be nice, because I'm sure that it's possible that the Washington Times is not 100% propaganda.
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But why would the peasantry be allowed to see such?
I wouldn't know. I'm not the one spreading gossip.
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Welcome aboard the Ted Cruz bandwagon.... oh wait, you don't like the 1 guy in DC saying we should abolish the IRS.
I guess it's true -- you really are "Ready For Hillary".
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He's munching on the same money as everybody else. He is a proven team player in the propaganda department. He talks big while he can, no different from anybody else during, say, a primary race, and then the tone changes once they are in. Your buddy Ted Cruz will follow the same script if he really wants the job. If you think he would, or even could kill that golden goose, you are out of your mind.
And yes, in expecting the worst, I am ready for Hillary! I'm sure I won't be disappointed. You all are welcome
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:-) Ahhh, maybe you are d_r. You talk the same way he talks about you. My! This IS fun!
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Congrats, you probably just made that moron cream his shorts.
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Well damn! While you're there drooling, roll the camera. I hear you can make good money with that stuff.