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Time Waster

FortKnox (169099) writes | more than 10 years ago

User Journal 36

Picked this up off of BBSpot.

The Petals around the rose game. Try and figure out the answer. There are 3 rules.
1.) The name of the game is "petals around the rose."
2.) The answer is always even (or 0, even though 0 is considered even).
3.) You can be told the answer for any roll.Picked this up off of BBSpot.

The Petals around the rose game. Try and figure out the answer. There are 3 rules.
1.) The name of the game is "petals around the rose."
2.) The answer is always even (or 0, even though 0 is considered even).
3.) You can be told the answer for any roll.

You can, of course, read the story of Billy Gates trying to understand the game. It may help a little. The smarter you are, the harder it will be.

Took me a loooong time to understand it... then I eventually caught on. Don't give away the answer (if you must, do it AC so you don't give it away to people that are trying to get it).

See you all in a couple of hours.

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I must not be smart :( (1)

dmorin (25609) | more than 10 years ago | (#9368968)

I got it in about 5 minutes. But you gave a big hint. :) And the notion of "It's really just a random number generator and the real test is in how long you waste your time" did cross my mind...

Re:I must not be smart :( (1)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369039)

Hey, don't feel bad, I got it in about 5 seconds but there's other shit that I can't get at all, like those pictures within pictures things, where when you stare at them another picture is meant to "jump out" at you.

Different strokes for different folks and all that.

I know this one! (1)

GeckoFood (585211) | more than 10 years ago | (#9368980)

I have not heard about this game in years! I know the answer (took me an overnight sleep to arrive at the answer), so I will keep quiet while others hammer it out (unless you specifically want me to speak up).

Wow, thought I was the only one who remembered this...

At first I thought I was a genius or something (1)

Some Woman (250267) | more than 10 years ago | (#9368996)

Because I had no clue. But then I got it, thanks to the giant hint you gave. I can see how a smart person would get trapped into looking for patterns.

Re:At first I thought I was a genius or something (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369265)

Kill kill kill!!!

I have half a page of rolls and answers now. I will figure it out by the end of the day, damn you FortKnox!

Re:At first I thought I was a genius or something (1)

buffer-overflowed (588867) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369772)

The name of the game gives the rules of the game.

Re:At first I thought I was a genius or something (1)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 10 years ago | (#9372010)

I'm going to take the name of the game and shove it somewhere for you to find...

Arrrrrgh!

jason

If I got it on my second try, (1)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 10 years ago | (#9368998)

does that mean I am dumb?

I think your hints were too good.

Re:If I got it on my second try, (1)

Abm0raz (668337) | more than 10 years ago | (#9376203)

ditto, but I did roll 3-4 more times to confirm.

-Ab

I've done ths before... (1)

daoine (123140) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369049)

FKs 'rules' are a dead giveaway. :) If you do it with only "guess how many petals are around the rose" it can take longer....

Re:I've done ths before... (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369111)

Ok, took out the give-away... maybe that'll help cause confusion.

Fun (1)

ryanr (30917) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369063)

Hadn't seen that before. It took me several minutes to figure out.

I must be bulimic or something... (1)

JMZero (449047) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369130)

I didn't read your hints and went straight to the site. I had guessed the rules by the time I was done reading the instructions.

20 minutes (1)

blinder (153117) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369174)

it took me 20 minutes to figure this out... I'm either rather creative in my thinking... or just dumber than a box of rocks.

Yes, the name, significant... in fact... if think visually... it shouldn't be that difficult to get.

Re:20 minutes (1)

TechnoLust (528463) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369407)

Grr... me too, it took me 25 tries. I even had a very complex algorithm figured out that depended on placement of the odd dice. I thought everything hinged on where the 3s turned up because every time I had a roll with no threes the answer was 0. Once I was sure of my algorithm and started getting answers right, I got a roll with no 3s whose answer was 4 and it blasted me out of the water. Then I started thinking about the name of the game and different variations of the actual answer. Thanks a LOT, FK. ;-)

Re:20 minutes (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369692)

Well, I took a bit of a different approach. I tried not to search a mathematical formula because that is what "smart" people would try to do in the first place.

Can't say how I found it, don't wanna spoil it for the others trying. It still took me 5 minutes, not taking into account reading the Bill Gates story. ;-)

Re:20 minutes (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369753)

Fuck it... My dad found it within 5 seconds! Grmbl.... Now I feel dumb!

Re:20 minutes (1)

Some Woman (250267) | more than 10 years ago | (#9370519)

No...That should make you feel smart, remember? :^)

got it. (1)

SolemnDragon (593956) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369192)



Gods, do i feel better. For a moment there, i thought i was losing my touch.

i know that won't help anyone who's really stuck, but c'mon, i'm a poet. I won't give it away because you'll feel REALLY, REALLY good when you get it- and reading mr. gates' story helped, because while i skipped most of it, it was when i saw the words 'pedals around the rose'- FK, i'm not saying any more than you linked to- that i realised what it was.

approximately 1 minute 10 seconds of furious thought, followed by 30 seconds of blank stare, followed by three hesitant tests and a feeling of relief.

thank you, FK!!

I'm still working on it! (1)

loucura! (247834) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369762)

I guess I'm not creative at all.

Re:I'm still working on it! (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369801)

It took me two hours.

Fuck me.

I'm either a genius or stupid as a bag of rocks.

Re:I'm still working on it! (1)

loucura! (247834) | more than 10 years ago | (#9370004)

Whoo hoo! I finally got it!

Giving Away Too Much (1)

Saige (53303) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369852)

I've noticed that when you mention that smart people have a much tougher time figuring it out, then you more or less eliminate that from being true.

By saying that, it makes people realize that the answer can't be that complex, allowing them to really narrow the possibilities that they look at.

When I first saw it (on Metafilter), it took me three rolls. Then I got it. I got it so quickly because I knew the answer had to be very simple and practically staring you in the face, and that's so much information right there that it becomes easy to solve.

I wish I had been given this without all that extra information so I could be able to honestly know how long it would take me.

Hmmm (1)

btlzu2 (99039) | more than 10 years ago | (#9369914)

3 tries and I had it. You just know not to complicate it cuz that's what they want you to do.

KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid

So I guess I'm stupid! :) Then again, FK, you're probably a logical thinker [slashdot.org] while I'm a musical thinker [slashdot.org] . I heard the song of the petals in my head and I got it! :)

Re:Hmmm (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#9370257)

I took the test.... Interpersonal Thinker? Wow... never expected that... Although when I think about it, I'm more likely to be the one explaining heavy duty IT stuff to a laymans audience and I've always wanted to be a teacher...

Wow. (1)

andfarm (534655) | more than 10 years ago | (#9370015)

Tried out the Flash version and got it right away. I am either a genius or very lucky.

spoiler! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9371058)

The answer is 10!
Ha, I ruined it for you!

Potentate of the Rose (1)

arb (452787) | more than 10 years ago | (#9371317)

I became a Potentate of the Rose back in 1997 or 1998. Lloyd Borrett (owner of the page with the bg story) introduced me to the game at a web developer conference way back when.

From memory it took about 10 minutes for me to work it out.

DAMMIT! (1)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 10 years ago | (#9371927)

You suck FK. And so do all the rest of you that "get it"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

jason

Junior High (1)

bethanie (675210) | more than 10 years ago | (#9372411)

Saw this in Junior High. The teacher had stumped us all. Then I remembered that I had this stupid BASIC program on a floppy from back in elementary school, so I loaded it up on my Apple IIc and played it for a while on my own, to try to figure it out. Then I got impatient so I did a "list" command (or whatever it was to see the source code of the program -- how many years has it been since I saw/programmed in BASIC?!), and read the explanations it had for when people solved the "puzzle."

So I guess I really was a l337 k1dd13, once upon a time! :-)

....Bethanie....

Re:Junior High (1)

Zirnike (640152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9372766)

Ah, my method of solving problems.

For example, a friend of mine wanted me to win at the 'pearls' game (5 rows of 6 pearls, take up to 6 from any... something like that, anyway). Send me an online link. Got annoyed at it. Loaded 2 copies and made one 'fight' the other.

I got it too. (1)

eugene ts wong (231154) | more than 10 years ago | (#9372739)

I think that many of you gave it away by discussing it too much. I feel dumber than a sack of rocks for not getting it earlier. It took me about 45-50 minutes.

i only saw the 3 rule set (1)

trmj (579410) | more than 10 years ago | (#9373692)

no idea how many there were before. 4? whatever. took me 10 rolls. i'm an idiot :-(

Good job (1)

Safety Cap (253500) | more than 10 years ago | (#9373795)

I looked at the Bill Gates story first and figured it out. I think if I'd done the game first, it would have happened faster. :)

Left brain / right brain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9377720)

(Sloppy posting AC at score 0, so people don't "accidentally" see this.)

It took me about 30 minutes, and I got very frustrated. Then I read the Gates story, which didn't really help. Then I read buffer-overflow's comment, about the name being significant, and that was the key. At this point, I knew it had to be a "right brain" problem, which required more a geometric or visual solution, rather than an arithmetic one.

In this problem, being "smart" isn't a liability. But being habitually trained to think a certain way is.

Very funny! (1)

Tomble (579119) | more than 10 years ago | (#9437822)

Unfortunately couldn't play with the flash version, because I've got no flash. But I managed to figure it out from the "Bill Gates is a robot" story, after a couple of minutes. I'm adamant I'd have figured it out quicker if I'd realised from the beginning that the "tops" of the dice were supposed to be the faces facing towards me rather than the faces facing the top of the screen. If you see what I mean. I can be a bit literal sometimes.

Hearing what the things they were allowed to say were put me on the right track for figuring it out. Very neat!

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