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Journal SuiteSisterMary's Journal: Hey, CRTC! 10

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If Bell Sympatico is a wholly separate and distinct business from Bell Express-Vu, Bell Mobility, and Bell Telephone, with no inherent advantages dealing with Bell Nexxia as compared to every other DSL reseller, why the hell can they bundle DSL service with Digital Satellite (from Express-Vu) and/or cell phones (from Bell Mobility)?

How can you claim 'separate company' on one hand, and 'integrated billing' on the other hand?!

Grumble grumble stupid Bell grumble

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  • I am certainly no fan of BCE (in fact, I avoid them like the plague), but seperate companies can have integrated billing. You can get integrated billing for your Fido cell phone and your Sprint Canada home phone service.

    • Ah, but can local ISP number 7329 get integrated billing with the digital sat company of their choice, and the cell company of their choice?

      Can local ISP number 7329 go into bundled deals with these companies?

      Or is it no coincidence that it's Bell Mobility, Bell Express-Vu, and Bell Sympatico DSL that are being bundled together?

      • You can get integrated billing with any company you can come to an agreement with.

        Of course it's easier for the Bell companies to agree to integrated billing with one another. They may also have an advantage with technical co-operation for DSL lines. But I don't see how integrated billing proves anything about the technical advantage on the DSL.

        Getting DSL requires that a Bell tech install a network card (that connects to your ISP's network)for your phone line at your exchange's CO -- other than that noth

        • The integrated billing isn't the hot issue, so much as an annoyance. The issue here is the bundling.

          To sell DSL, generally, you're reselling Bell's. Sympatico can offer a deal with satellite or cell. That ain't right, I think, for all the local ISPs trying to compete.

          • Well, I can't speak for other ISPs but mine is not reselling Bell's DSL service. As I said, a Bell tech installs the network card at Bell's CO for my exchange, but this card connects me to iStop's network, not BellNexxia.

            Companies (or conglomorates) that have more than one product can bundle their products. If you have different products than Bell, you can offer bundles that they can't. If you have a small company whose products can't be differentiated from those of the behemoths, well that's your (absolut

            • It's bell copper, talking to a bell switching office. Yes, the radius server is located elsewhere, and the backhaul to the Internet is probably going out of somebody else's location, but the infrastructure itself is Bell's.

              Companies (or conglomorates) that have more than one product can bundle their products.

              Not necessarily. Microsoft/Internet Explorer, for example.

              In the case of DSL, because you can't just lay down new copper in, say, downtown Toronto, there are rules about how DSL can be sold by t

              • It's bell copper, talking to a bell switching office. Yes, the radius server is located elsewhere, and the backhaul to the Internet is probably going out of somebody else's location

                Just like dialup, no? instead of dialing the ISP's number, it has to be hardwired -- requiring more person-hours from Bell (which is their opportunity to mess with competitors), but the no more of their infrastructure than dialup does -- actually less, as I only need Bell's infrastructure from here to the nearest CO, while, wi

                • A successful small business does something that their target market prefers over the big guys

                  True, but I'm still hearing an awful lot of '...but I decided to go with Bell, because I wanted satellite TV, too.'

                  • A successful small business does something that their target market prefers over the big guys
                    True, but I'm still hearing an awful lot of '...but I decided to go with Bell, because I wanted satellite TV, too.'

                    A successful small business also realizes that the majority (usually the vast majority) of people are not part of their target market

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