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Moderation abuser???

TopShelf (92521) writes | more than 10 years ago

User Journal 8

I looked at my profile today, and instead of my usual "Excellent" karma, it now reads "Moderation Abuser". WTF is that???

I looked at my profile today, and instead of my usual "Excellent" karma, it now reads "Moderation Abuser". WTF is that???

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Bad M2? (1)

taped2thedesk (614051) | more than 10 years ago | (#9376891)

Have you been watching your M2 reports? It'd make sense if you got a bunch of "Unfairs" lately. Also, it might be somebody on your subnet abusing the system... either way, it might be worth e-mailing Taco 'cause it's not addressed in the FAQ.

Re:Bad M2? (1)

geoswan (316494) | more than 10 years ago | (#9377801)

OK. I'll bite. What is an M2 report?

I haven't been given an opportunity to moderate in over two years. I have no idea why.

Re:Bad M2? (1)

taped2thedesk (614051) | more than 10 years ago | (#9378473)

What is an M2 report?
Oh, well go to Prefs/Messages - I'm talking about the comment moderation report. For each moderation you make, the report will tell you whether it was deemed "fair" or "unfair" in M2.

I haven't been given an opportunity to moderate in over two years.
Chances are you just read /. too much (most people I've talked to have this problem. Here are the qualifications for mod points, from the FAQ page:

* Logged In User If the system can't keep track, it won't work, so you gotta log in. Sorry if you're paranoid, but this system demands a certain level of accountability.

* Regular Slashdot Readers The scripts track average accesses from each logged-in user. It then selects eligible users who read an average number of times. The homepage doesn't count either. It then picks users from the middle of the pack- no obsessive compulsive reloaders, and nobody who just happened to read an article this week.

* Long Time Readers The system throws out the newest few thousand accounts. This prevents people from creating new accounts to simply get moderator access, but more importantly, means that newbies will have to be part of the community for a few months before they gain access to the controls to a system they don't understand.

* Willing to Serve If you don't want to moderate, just visit your user preferences, and set yourself as "Unwilling."

* Positive Contributors Slashdot tracks your "karma." If you have Positive, Good, or Excellent karma, this means you have posted more good comments than bad, and are eligible to moderate. This weeds out spam accounts.

[If you're reading too much, try doing most of your reading while you're logged out - it will probably fool the system.]

Re:Bad M2? (1)

johndiii (229824) | more than 10 years ago | (#9379731)

I'm not sure that the FAQ gives the whole story. I haven't had mod points in over a year (when I had been getting them about once a week). The only criterion that I would fail is the "too many page loads" one. I've made an effort to reduce this by (1) taking time off Slashdot, and (2) reading while logged in under a different account. Neither seemed to have any effect. There are others in the same position, who have tried similar approaches. To my knowledge, no one who has ever been without mod points for a long period has ever started receiving them again. There have been some discussion of this in JEs, but no conclusion was ever reached. There was some talk of trying to figure it out by going to the Slashcode source, but the version that Slashdot runs is not the same as the one on SourceForge.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts, or anyone's. It's been suggested that certain accounts are flagged for no moderation (too close association with FortKnox has been suggested as a reason, or pissing off Michael Sims, or participation in one of several notorious discussions). This would be more of a viewpoint thing, rather than an anti-troll measure (since trolls are presumably handled by the normal moderation system). Hard to say, though - it would really go against the spirit of Slashdot. Also, moderation and metamoderation are apparently closely tied, and I am still offered M2 on a regular basis if I have "willing to moderate" turned on.

I have another account with positive karma, and I've been thinking of trying to get mod points with that account. I'm not sure if IP tracking would let that happen.

Re:Bad M2? (1)

taped2thedesk (614051) | more than 10 years ago | (#9380096)

Well, the only thing I can really say for sure is that I recently started reading /. a LOT more (during breaks at work, etc.) and have been commenting a lot more. I haven't had any run-ins with Michael, haven't been bitch-slapped, and haven't had any association with FortKnox (may have had him on my friends list for a short time, but I've gotten plenty of points since I took him off, so I don't think that's the reason)

I did notice that when my computer was down for about a week and I stopped reading almost altogether, I received mod points within a day or two (after not getting any points for a couple of months). This would support the 'too many page loads' criterion.

I've never had a bad M2 (maybe one, but not enough to be a problem), so I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with that. Honestly, moderation is almost a pain in itself... while it's nice to have points, I find it more interesting to actually participate in the discussions.

It wouldn't surprise me if there was some 'behind-the-scenes' mod point kill switch for the editors, but I would hope they'd save it for extreme cases of abuse... not just petty disagreements. It's hard to say without seeing the "secret" slashcode.

Re:Bad M2? (1)

johndiii (229824) | more than 10 years ago | (#9381391)

My reading level went up significantly about a month or two before I stopped getting mod points, but subsequent decreases have not produced any mod points. I never had an unfair M2, at least none that was reported via the messaging system. And I can't recall anything, other than having FortKnox on my friends list, that would trigger any kind of reaction from the editors. A couple of anonymous trolls are about the worst, but nothing really bad. So I'm pretty much left guessing.

Re:Bad M2? (1)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 10 years ago | (#9394604)

That's the funny thing - I don't think I've had moderation points in the last year or two either, so that makes the "Moderation Abuser" tag all the more bemusing. Fortunately, it went away later that day, but has anyone else even seen it before?

Re:Bad M2? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9379152)

I just did a cvs update on Slash and the code to produce this message is not currently committed. Congrats, you're being experimented on. I strongly suggest you email and post their response to your question in your journal.

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