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In My Mind (also, any Chicagoans out there???)

FortKnox (169099) writes | more than 9 years ago

User Journal 25

I'm gonna give you an insight into my mind:
I work in a consulting firm (relatively small, about one hundred people... just recently made a branch in a new city). Consultants should be developers with boatloads of experience in all the technologies in demand. Consultants are usually older guys with large resumes. This is my second job out of school. I am 27 (28 next month). So, although I'm a pretty good developer with a good amount of experience in the newest java technologies, I'm preI'm gonna give you an insight into my mind:
I work in a consulting firm (relatively small, about one hundred people... just recently made a branch in a new city). Consultants should be developers with boatloads of experience in all the technologies in demand. Consultants are usually older guys with large resumes. This is my second job out of school. I am 27 (28 next month). So, although I'm a pretty good developer with a good amount of experience in the newest java technologies, I'm pretty much the low guy on the totem pole. All the guys hired after me are all in their mid thirties or older. They are Architects and high in my company from the start.

Something that annoys the hell outta me is that the only reason the higher ups in my company even know my name is because I've been around for 3 years now (consultant turnaround can be high, because clients you work for can turn around and give you a job with a hefty raise). So I'm one of the guys that have been around a while in my part of the company (java group). My problem is, they invited a LOT of architect type people into the company. Not only that, but all the higherups buddy-buddy with these folks. Its hard when you've put in 3 hard years in a company to see someone who's been here for 5 months get to go to conventions with the guy in charge of the java group, and go out to dinner with the company president and the best I got is a "Hi Josh!"

Of course, I understand. I'm the one always telling my younger sister "You gotta do your time before the real opportunities come up. Yeah, its tough, the job isn't necessarily what you want to do, but you need a couple years experience before you'll be considered for something else."

Well, I've poked around trying to find something to make me unique. There is a technology they've talked about trying to wrap around[1], and when they offered training in it to a small class after hours on fridays, I jumped to get in the class. It ended up being a good thing, however, I'm still unnoticed.

That's when a huge client came to us and wanted us to do something with that technology. When they first talked about it, they asked folks that were involved in the class to get together. I was one of like 5 people in the group (only java guy, might I add). Then the client became a reality, so the company forced others to be apart of the group. Added in one java guy who didn't take the training, and one big architect type who did (and a BOATLOAD of project managers).

Still nada from me. I got involved, but still the low guy on the totem pole.

This was about 2 or so months ago. Things started progressing slowly. Then I got a call yesterday afternoon. The "big client" is a brand new product out of a WELL known computer software manufacturer (dunno if I'm allowed to say or not, but if I said the name, you'd know them). This new product needs integration with that technology I am trained in. It was the architect guy. He was supposed to take the training, but the client he's currently at needs him too direly. I was the next guy on the list.

So, from 9/27-10/1 I'll be in Chicago to partake in training for this new product. I'll be the man. I'll be important. Even the architect guy told me on the phone "dude, this is gonna shift that totem pole." I'm tooootally hyped. Finally an opportunately landed on my lap after trying so hard!

So, any Chicagoans around that want to have dinner or coffee or something a week from monday??

[1] Sorry about being vague, but I don't know what's public and what's not, so I'm keeping me mouth shut.

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Define Chicagoan :-) (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280165)

So, any Chicagoans around that want to have dinner or coffee or something a week from monday??

It's a big place out here. Theoretically I think this'd be really cool, but my wife may see it differently, esp if it involves going somewhere far or slow to get to :-). Where particularly in Chicago? Downtown?

Re:Define Chicagoan :-) (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280344)

Downers Grove, IL.

Re:Define Chicagoan :-) (1)

elmegil (12001) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280464)

That sounds likely to be a training center I've been to at I-355 and Butterfield road, or that vicinity. You're within SSM distance of Fry's Electronics there, too, BTW. Good Geek destination :-). And a lot of the popular chains nearby, notably Joe's Crab Shack. I will check and see what my availability might be....

Good show, young buck! (1)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280212)

Beetleschnitzel is in Chi-town, but I forget who else.

Re:Good show, young buck! (1)

Some Woman (250267) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280304)

Smoochy Bear, too. But they share the same human shell so you won't need an extra seat at the table.

Re:Good show, young buck! (1)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280338)

Doesn't Rob live there, too?

Re:Good show, young buck! (1)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280511)

Yes, and Bobbledy-Bobble, too.*

* - Yes. He is the origin of the bobble-head.

Cheers,

Ethelred

offtopic ff question (1)

asv108 (141455) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280483)

Whats the status on the plus league?

Re:offtopic ff question (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10282033)

By tomorrow afternoon we'll be upgraded.

FortKnox, this is GREAT NEWS! (1)

TechnoLust (528463) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280544)

You have a SISTER! :-) Oh, yeah, congrat's on whatever else it was you were blabbing about. ;-)

Re:FortKnox, this is GREAT NEWS! (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10282014)

Actually, I have 2. One's in Atlanta and 3 years younger than me, one's finishing college and is 5 years younger than me.

yikes (1)

SolemnDragon (593956) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280587)

27!?!?

i'm older than you? But... but... you're a grownup!!!

Oh, i am so bummed.

*sigh*

Re:yikes (1)

dubiousdave (618128) | more than 9 years ago | (#10287190)

That's okay. I'm older than you, and he's still a grownup.

Re:yikes (1)

arb (452787) | more than 9 years ago | (#10304114)

And I am much older than you, yet you are more of a grown-up than I am.

Sheesh. It really makes you feel old when you realise that those you think of as old are younger than you. 8-/

And again... (1)

M.C. Hampster (541262) | more than 9 years ago | (#10280756)


Wow, sums up my thoughts perfectly. More proof that we are weird twins from parallel universes. Of course, I don't have this great opportunity you have.

You suck.*

*Not really

Simple congratulations (1)

Ra5pu7in (603513) | more than 9 years ago | (#10281568)

Well done. I'm glad your hard work is paying off.

Great City (1)

baldass_newbie (136609) | more than 9 years ago | (#10281621)

I'll be in Boston, unfortunately.

There's a TON of great places to eat in Chicago. You really can't go wrong.

Congrats on the gig. It's great when it clicks.

Best. Pizza. Ever. (1)

Rudy Rodarte (597418) | more than 9 years ago | (#10283127)

I've been to Chicago once and you have to go here [giordanos.com] . Its the best pizza I've ever had! Now, I don't know the city very well, so I don't know which location we went to. I remember it being close to the train, though. Then again, I also remember leaving about 10 pounds heavier!

I'm in Chi-Town. (1)

Scott Lockwood (218839) | more than 9 years ago | (#10284629)

Want to have dinner at a really nice Polish place while you're in town? It's not too far from where you're staying.

DON'T GO TO DINNER WITH THIS MAN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10286755)

Scott Lockwood has been scientifically proven to be a morbidly obese lump of useless bullshit. He will eat anything, but what he loves most is the taste of human flesh. It's a trap to lure you into his presence so he can feast upon your innards.

My consulting experience (1)

bethanie (675210) | more than 9 years ago | (#10285300)

Well, congratulations on finally catching the eye of the bigwigs. I really hope it pans out for you.

But IF it doesn't give you the payoff you're hoping for, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that it seems like when folks get hired away by the clients, they are a LOT more valued when they then get hired BACK by the consulting firm.

Sometimes you gotta go away for a while for them to realize how much they miss you.

....Bethanie....

congrats (1)

orange_6 (320700) | more than 9 years ago | (#10285774)

I always thought of you as much older than I (27 next month)

Congrats on the totem-shifting.

Too bad it's a monday, stupid class, I'm totally within distance of where you're going.

If you give me a hint... (1)

RevMike (632002) | more than 9 years ago | (#10288052)

... as to what you are doing I'll tell you what I do. BTW, you're a java guy? Where do you live because I'm looking to hire.

Damnit! (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 9 years ago | (#10301640)

I'm going to be in Chicago for all of the hour it takes to ride a Greyhound bus through it. (And on to Omaha.)

On the other hand, I'll have several hours layover in Chicago taking Amtrak on the return trip, a week later. (On my way to Grand Rapids.)
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