Chacham's Journal: Verbiage: Political ramblings.

So, how do Democrats fight Republicans? Ad hominem. Don't like Bush ? Then Call Bush stupid. They didn't like Reagan, so they said he was senile. They didn't like Dole, so they said he was out of touch. They don't like Bush, so they say he is stupid. Dukakis didn't exactly help the situation either.

To be fair, Doel said that Bob Dole would say anything bad about Bob Dole's oponent. But when Bob Dole saw that Bob Dole was losing, Bob Dole came in thrashing.

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I remember asking a Dole supporter why he didn't have a Dole bumper sticker. He basically answered, "I don't want to be the idiot with the Dole sticker after Dole loses."

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Liberitarians are Socialists in disguise. The Tax Payer's party (Nationally, the Constituion Party) is more what the Liberitarian's should be. Except tall the Xian stuff. Best part

We propose legislation to abolish the Internal Revenue Service, and will veto any authorization, appropriation, or continuing resolution which contains any funding whatsoever for that illicit and unconstitutional agency. We are opposed to the flat-rate tax, national sales tax, and value added tax proposals that are being promoted as an improvement to the current tax system. The Sixteenth Amendment does not provide authority for an un-apportioned direct tax.

Moreover, it is our intention to replace, with a tariff based revenue system supplemented by excise taxes, the current tax system of the U.S. government (including income taxes, payroll taxes, and estate taxes.)

To the degree that tariffs on foreign products, and excises, are insufficient to cover the legitimate Constitutional costs of the federal government, we will offer an apportioned "state-rate tax" in which the responsibility for covering the cost of unmet obligations will be divided among the several states in accordance with their proportion of the total population of the United States, excluding the District of Columbia. Thus, if a state contains 10 percent of the nation's citizens, it will be responsible for assuming payment of 10 percent of the annual deficit.

I like their attitude (so far, form the little i have read), but some stuff is a bit wacky.

The Constitution Party

[FroMan]

Over all, I really like their platform, but they are very isolationist.
I think in the long term this would weaken the US on many grounds,
defensively and economically.

In MI there are a few UST folks I would vote for, but often they seem to
fall in line with the republican party (probably republicans who bombed
primaries). As such, I think there is only one UST backed candidate
that I'll be voting for tommorrow.

For the most part I'll be voting libertarian tommorrow. Bush/Cheney is
about the only republican li

Re:The Constitution Party

[superyooser]

I just went to Peroutka's web site. YIKES! This guy is a disaster!

As President, I would move immediately to withdraw all our troops from Iraq in a way that would provide for the safety of those Iraqis who worked with us during this illegal, wrong-headed war.

He's more leftist than John Kerry. "Illegal" war? So the CP does believe that America is subject to international law, and worse, is willing to let it hamper our defense.

I had been thinking about voting for the Constitution Party too. The thing tha

Re:The Constitution Party

[FroMan]

As I said. Their isolationism is a bit much for me.

I could not vote for their presidential offerings this year (Peroutka),
as how we continue to respond to terrorism is a far more important issue
this year. Bush doesn't get stellar marks in this catagory, but he is
head and shoulders above the rest of the pack.

I can see the CP being more effective in a peace time election cycle.

As far as being anti-Israel, I don't know about that. I think that
mainly stems from isolationistic tendencies. Basically, I see

Re:The Constitution Party

[superyooser]

I had thought about voting for the CP in state and local offices, since isolationist views would not come into play, and voting Republican nationally. But the more I learn about the CP, the more disturbing the picture becomes. Some people supporting Peroutka parrot the left's lies. They can be as opportunistic and hatemongering as the Democrats. Stormfront, a white nationalist group, is supporting Peroutka. What really disturbs me is that many anti-Jewish "Christians" are rallying around Peroutka. His cutti

Re:The Constitution Party

[Chacham]

Sheesh, you speak well enough, i have nothing left to say. :)

Re:The Constitution Party

[superyooser]

Thanks for the compliment. I hope you aren't being sarcastic. :)

Re:The Constitution Party

[Chacham]

No.

Sometimes you take the thought out of my mouth. :)

You also do more research.

Re:The Constitution Party

[Chacham]

I had thought about voting for them. Thanx for pointing this out.

Re:The Constitution Party

[Chacham]

>but they are very isolationist.

Yep. Bothers me too. I seem to like their reasonings, but there are some compromises that must be made when dealing with reality. (Did i just say that?)

Libertarian = Socialists?

[Fortunato_NC]

That's a new one. Please tell me you were being sarcastic...

Re:Libertarian = Socialists?

[Chacham]

Socialist means give me everything (like a teenager). When they realized that won't happen they say, "at least lave me alone." So, while not the same, i believe they come from the same vein, that is, a self-centered view.