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George W Bush!

Lord Kano (13027) writes | more than 9 years ago

United States 7

I couldn't be happier about the presidential election. GWB is the winner. With one supreme court justice in poor health and several others who are well past the average life expectance for Americans, it couldn't be more important to have him in the White House and a Republican majority in congress.

We can get a clear majority on the supreme court. We can get Roe V. Wade reversed and let the states decide for themselves on the issue of abortion.

I couldn't be happier about the presidential election. GWB is the winner. With one supreme court justice in poor health and several others who are well past the average life expectance for Americans, it couldn't be more important to have him in the White House and a Republican majority in congress.

We can get a clear majority on the supreme court. We can get Roe V. Wade reversed and let the states decide for themselves on the issue of abortion.

It's going to be at least 4 more years before anyone tries to ban any guns.

We can breathe a breath of fresh air because the issues that are important to us are on the table.

The thing I like best about President Bush is that he's our Bill Clinton. No matter how much the other side hates him, it only makes them look worse. I was a dedicated Clinton hater. I even bought a bottle of wine that I'm saving until the day he dies. Now I can be as smug as the democrats were on Nov 3 1996.

Talk about a mandate to lead.

LK

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in 96 (1)

NeMon'ess (160583) | more than 9 years ago | (#10715091)

Clinton got 49%
Dole got 41%

Your smugness is unjustified.
A mandate from half the country. The other half found Kerry, who has a lackluster senatorial record, more palatable.

Re:in 96 (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10715382)

No, less then half. 48% does not equal one-half or 50%.

Now Bush on the other hand, had MORE then half, 51%.

Re:in 96 (1)

NeMon'ess (160583) | more than 9 years ago | (#10715731)

It was 49.24% of the popular vote. I'm calling that half because you know perfectly well that's close enough to it. However 41.71 is not close enough to be called half. 51% is still about half. That is not a clear mandate.

just my POV (1)

Abm0raz (668337) | more than 9 years ago | (#10723002)

I'm just curious. I watched the Daily Show last night for the first time in 8 months (I can't stand how it went from funny satire too politico ass-kiss). Last night their guest interview was the democratic senator from NY. Him and Jon Stewart bitched about how "72% of americans felt that Bush was bad for the economy" and that "60% of americans think Bush couldn't handle Iraq" yet they still voted for him leading us to believe that "americans smoke crack."

My response to that (and somewhat to you) is that those issues, although important, weren't ncessarily the primary reasons people voted for Bush. I submit to you that neither was overturning roe vs. wade. I know 3 of my friends who voted for Bush just because Kerry had no discernable plan for the country other than "I'm not Bush" and "I'm for a healthcare plan that Clinton tried and couldn't find money for even when the country had money." I know between the "lesser of 2 evils", I preferred Bush (even though I voted my conscience for a 3rd party), not because of "Roe vs. Wade" (which I'm a lack-luster pro-choice) or gun control issues (which I own 4 rifles, 3 shotguns, and over-under, and a pistol) or Iraq (he fucked it up, but now we're in the "we broke it; we have to fix it" predicament) but because he has a plan and congress might actually let him complete it.

Personally, I can't stand Bush. He's closer to a Constitution party religious nut than a Republican. His choice in cabinet is even worse (John Ashcroft can rot in hell, though, I like Powell and am indifferent to Rice and Rumsfield).

Things like abortion should not be a national issue. It's a morality issue. And morals vary widely from coast to coast. In a bible belt state, they should have every right outlaw abortion. In the more local level, they share that moral. Similar for more liberal states like New York, California, and Nevada. They don't share the same level of moral values, so why should they be subject to the strict morals of Utah's mormons or Alabama's Baptists? The actions of a person in Cleveland do not affect those in Montana, so why should the views of those in Montana be used to enact laws that affect those in Cleveland?

-Ab

Re:just my POV (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10728058)

Things like abortion should not be a national issue. It's a morality issue. And morals vary widely from coast to coast. In a bible belt state, they should have every right outlaw abortion. In the more local level, they share that moral. Similar for more liberal states like New York, California, and Nevada. They don't share the same level of moral values, so why should they be subject to the strict morals of Utah's mormons or Alabama's Baptists? The actions of a person in Cleveland do not affect those in Montana, so why should the views of those in Montana be used to enact laws that affect those in Cleveland?

You just summed up my argument against Roe V. Wade. States define for themselves what is and what is not homicide. Every state should be free to enact its own laws about abortion. It'll remain completely legal in New York and California. It'll probably be banned outright in Utah, Montana, Idaho, Virginia and a few others. Most states will enact some sort of restrictions short of completely banning it.

LK

Well. Speculation. (1)

hkmwbz (531650) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735664)

Liberals are obviously speculating about cheating [tompaine.com] ... Exit polls being wrong only in Ohio and Florida seems a bit suspicious, though, doesn't it?

Re:Well. Speculation. (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736838)

Liberals are obviously speculating about cheating... Exit polls being wrong only in Ohio and Florida seems a bit suspicious, though, doesn't it?

Florida maybe, but not Ohio.

Abortion and gay marriage... Do they really belong in the constitution?

They're state's rights issues. If we need to amend the federal constitution to give individual states the right to decide these things for themselves, so be it.

LK
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