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I Know Why Em Left

FortKnox (169099) writes | more than 9 years ago

User Journal 29

I really do. It is all clear to me now.

I see the whining he is talking about. I actually have to force myself to not post nasty replies. Some occasionally leak out, so I apologize if I sent you a bad reply (I'm really a good guy at heart, just have been in a nasty mood online or something?).I really do. It is all clear to me now.

I see the whining he is talking about. I actually have to force myself to not post nasty replies. Some occasionally leak out, so I apologize if I sent you a bad reply (I'm really a good guy at heart, just have been in a nasty mood online or something?).

Anywho, that's why I haven't been posting much. And, no, I'm not depressed or anything. In fact, I'm making a semi-major job move that will boost my career shortly (will post a JE when everythign is in place). Maybe its the stress of not having everythign set yet?

29 comments

This is awseome (1)

ellem (147712) | more than 9 years ago | (#11072937)

You got the Stripper gig! I am so proud of you.

You thought the Carmen Electra Stripper Video Workout wouldn't work; didn't you?

I think you owe me a beer for turning you on to it.

Hey Congrats I really hope it works out.

Re:This is awseome (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073084)

I owe you a beer and more!

Tell ya what, I'll give you my first professional lapdance, lou! ;-)

Y'know (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11072941)

I got this comment last week [slashdot.org], thought "Gee, I hadn't realized anyone was so pro-stone computer!" and suddenly realized that I no longer see anything unusual about being addressed in that tone. Guess I've been here too long.

In any case, I still don't understand who the hell wants a granite computer. Although a stone laptop would be cool -- I can see coming into a meeting and dropping my marble StonePad onto the table. And the people who were so irate a couple of weeks ago when I pointed out that a TiBook is lighter than a T40 could furiously insist that a 25lb computer isn't noticeably heavier than a PowerBook.

You people (1)

dubiousdave (618128) | more than 9 years ago | (#11072946)

need to stop whining about the whining. It's going to make me start whining.

Re:You people (1)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 9 years ago | (#11072987)

Yeah. And then there are the people who whine about the whining about the whining. They make me just go all into a murderous rage, let me tell you.

I think we all really need a big group hug. Whaddya say?

*crickets chirping*

Very well, then. I'm hugging myself.

Cheers,

Ethelred
(locked in a passionate embrace with himself)

Re:You people (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073044)

(With tongue firmly in cheek,) it's clear that meta-whining, like meta-moderating isn't the solution to the problem. Then we'll just have meta-meta-whining as you suggest, and when will it end?

What we need is a new board with a new whining system. A whining system that won't break.

The answer, as always, is obvious (0, Troll)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073077)

The solution:

(-1, Whining Bastard)

'Nuff said.

/me removes tongue from cheek

Cheers,

Ethelred

PS: Are we there yet?

Re:The answer, as always, is obvious (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073272)

That's like flogging a dead horse. The best solution here seems like setting threshhold to 2, notification of replies to 2, and ignoring the crap. And for some reason, I've still got mine set to 0 on both counts. Maybe I just don't get enough crap.

I'll chime in on are we there yet, but it's only going to work so long as the community doesn't grow out of control or the moderation system isn't broken, or possibly both. Even then, you're probably still gonna see some whining.

Re:The answer, as always, is obvious (1)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073318)

That's like flogging a dead horse. The best solution here seems like setting threshhold to 2, notification of replies to 2, and ignoring the crap. And for some reason, I've still got mine set to 0 on both counts. Maybe I just don't get enough crap.

Come now. I set my threshold to 6, and ain't bothered by nothin' no more.

Cheers,

Ethelred

Re:The answer, as always, is obvious (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073446)

Sweet, that must mean my posts are somehow being modded up 4 points by your settings. That or you're manually checking back here, which'd be kind of silly.

Re:The answer, as always, is obvious (1)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 9 years ago | (#11074613)

4 points? I have your posts modded up 8.62 trillion points, just to be sure.

Cheers,

Ethelred

Re:The answer, as always, is obvious (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11075055)

Aw gee, I never knew you cared so much. I'm touched.

And now FK's gonna mod my posts down 8.62 trillion points, just so he doesn't have to receive messages when I post in his journal like this.

The _real_ solution (1)

daniil (775990) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073283)

You know the story of the men who built the pharaoh's tomb, don't you?

If not, then here goes. So there are these men that build the pharaoh's tomb. They decoreate it, paint it, drag the sarcophagus in there and then seal and conceal the entrance. And then, their heads are chopped off and their bodies dumped into the Nile to make the crocodile-gods happy.

Of course that's not where it ends. See, the men that did the chopping know too much. So their heads get chopped off as well, and bodies dumped into the Nile.

Obviously, the killers still know too much (Only two levels of separation? You must be kidding me), so before they even know it, they're beheaded. By that time, the crocodiles are getting confused.

And then the whole thing goes on for many an iteration, until everyone has forgotten what they are killing all these men for. So they turn it into a ritual and make up a myth to justify this killing.

(The myth, of course, being the exact same (well, not word for word, but still the same) story i just told you)

Well... (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073076)

It has been a long time like this: I just (try to) ignore any whining. I just hope I'm not too guilty about whining myself.

Could you give specific examples of whining?

Re:Well... (1)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073149)

Just check out my recent posting history. I'm in the middle of a real whinefest right now. Must be that time of the year.

Oh well, can't finish without bitching at something, so here goes: it really sucks how every single position on the Tennessee Titans roster has been decimated by injuries this year. I swear the team's so banged up that they could keep the cast of ER busy for the rest of the century.

Re:Well... (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073324)

Hehe, I would have missed such whining: I also ignore anything about sports ;-)) (Assuming that Tennesse Titans thing is American Football, we Euro's really don't follow such stuff *grin*)

Re:Well... (1)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073370)

Hey! I'm a European and I follow the NFL, MLB and some NBA! Of course, I also support a football team too - Liverpool FC - but just because I'm not American that doesn't mean I can't enjoy American sports as much as an American can.

Re:Well... (1)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073428)

Oops.... Sorry! I always assume that someone is from the US of A on slashdot, doubly so when referring to American Sports.

You are of course right, but to my defense: I don't follow any "European" sports either. I just never got into sports... Probably explains a lot about my physical condition ;-)

Again, excuse me... Won't happen again (If I can remember your nick)

Re:Well... (1)

dubiousdave (618128) | more than 9 years ago | (#11075018)

but just because I'm not American that doesn't mean I can't enjoy American sports as much as an American can.

Yes it does. You're supposed to whine about American sports. Don't you know anything?

Re:Well... (1)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 9 years ago | (#11079340)

Well, after just having watched the MNF Chiefs at Titans game, I've got plenty to whine about. 35 points gifted to the Chiefs on a plate and some terrible officiating throughout - did that officiating crew ever see a yellow flag that they didn't like? - especially that final unsportsmanlike conduct "blow to the head" penalty for hitting Trent Green on his shoulder pad.

It's bad enough that the Titans have seven or eight of their starting defense missing, half their OL out, two of their best three WRs either out or hobbled, their TEs banged up, their starting RB limited by injury, their K out for the year, their P playing injured and, of course, the reigning NFL co-MVP reduced to the role of spectator without losing games like that one.

I swear, the Titans are going to wipe the floor next season if, as looks likely now, they finish fourth in their division. With the Colts playing two games against fellow division winners and the Titans playing two games against other fourth placed teams, the Titans will essentially have a one or two game head start on their main competition. That plus the law of averages suggests that the Titans will be healthy next year whilst the Colts finally have to deal with their fair share of injuries. Oh, and that top ten (top five?) draft pick will help too.

P.S. Note to Carlos Beltran. Sign for the Astros. You know you want to, so just do it. The Yankees are too busy spending money on acquiring every damn pitcher who's got an ERA under 4.50 (Carl Pavano, Jared Wright) and wondering how they're going to offload their current crop of pitching mistakes (Kevin Brown, Javier Vazquez, Jose Contreras) to think about paying you the $200 million for 10 years that Scott Boras keeps whispering in your ear. Take the Astros' $70 million for five years and enjoy it. Then think about winning your first Golden Glove and getting to the All-Star game more than once in your career before you start thinking about a perennial MVP candidate-type salary.

This post bought to you by the phrases "Bitter and twisted", "Who me?" and "Damn right I am".

Re:Well... (1)

eugene ts wong (231154) | more than 9 years ago | (#11075104)

I looked at your posting history, and can't figure out which thread you are referring to. Are referring to "burglarize" or whatever it is?

Re:Well... (1)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 9 years ago | (#11079372)

That amongst other things. Can you believe that someone can openly question how the Medieval Latin verb "burgare" became the modern English verb "burgle" on the basis that the former has no Ls in it but the latter does yet at the same time readily accept that the noun "burglar" is derived from that very same verb "bugare"?

Is it me or isn't that doublethink? Accepting one thing as gospel and dismissing it as blasphemy at the same time? Bah, it's 6.30am here and I'm still ticked off about staying up all night to watchthis travesty of justice [go.com] to laugh off anything right now.

Ah, the internet (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073207)

Has there ever been a more open, accessible, enabling communication besides the internet? With Slashdot up to some 700k accounts, it isn't really surprising that there's rampant whining.

The cost to publish is nothing. There's no moderation intended to remove whining, contrary positions, or annoying presentation. There's no reason not to post in whatever manner a person feels fit.

Newspapers at least have editors to filter spurious reader comments. The journalists have to take the cost to publish into account and limited space, they only report on interesting material (sometimes to a sensationalist fault). If one paper starts being too much whine, there's always another.

Grow any community to a sufficient point where it can no longer be closely knit and familiar and people will forget about being overly friendly. Reduce the barrier to posting comments to nothing and people will post any garbage they want. What's to be done about it? The best you can hope for is to make rules that are enforced through design rather than relying on users to help anybody but themselves. For journals, it'd be nice if the journal owner had the ability to remove comments and prevent certain people from posting. The friends system here seems fairly decent for posting restriction and community discovery, though the 400 user limit seems poor.

AOL. (1)

SamTheButcher (574069) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073243)

I really do. It is all clear to me now.

Which is to say, me too. :)

Can't wait to read some good news, too! Hope the career move works out well for you!!

The last 6 weeks has been bad (1)

sielwolf (246764) | more than 9 years ago | (#11073733)

It has overstepped a level of familiarity so now the dialogue here is high school level rumor and politics. There is both a comfort level to be too intrusive and too reactionary. There is a lack of restraint considering that: the zoo is a international phenomenon where most of us have never met and share little IRL of our days outside of this website.

And no matter how close we seem to come, this is still just a website mostly composed of lurkers, ACs, and the mildly interested. Everything projected here is the same as saying it in a crowded mall foodcourt. This isn't any of our houses. Our families aren't here. So the dialogue should be expected to maintain a respectful discourse (no matter how "close" we might have become).

Every time one of these "Big Things" happens I get the same sense (I assume) Em felt. "fuck, this is just a website." A distraction. A fun little novelty. My life is that other 99.999999% that happens outside of this. And when the community almost seems to demand that everyone treat /. with the same seriousness of a study hall lunch table I groan. /. works because it is 100% reflective: you get out 100% of what you put in. If I only put in 15 minutes I expect the same. When the pull is to almost demand that I put more time into this or I'm being a Bad Person I just...

Well I do what I've done: post less, journal less than I did upto this point. I'd rather do something that doesn't aggrevate me. The hope is that this will all die down. Or I'll go somewhere else.

I'm a distant ivory tower prick anyway.

Re:The last 6 weeks has been bad (1)

Ethelred Unraed (32954) | more than 9 years ago | (#11074582)

I'm a distant ivory tower prick anyway.

Dr. Freud will see you now. ;-)

Other than that, what he said.

My additional two cents: I came here originally for discourse, debate, talk and the occasional tangent of silliness. Sort of like Usenet without the rampant cross-posting, spam, idiotic flamewars and so forth. And for a while, it was good...then I despaired of the front page, and discovered zoo.pl and journal.pl. And for a while, it was good...

Cheers,

Ethelred

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