Do you take a print newspaper at home?
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geezer (Score:3, Insightful)
You insensitive clod! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:You insensitive clod! (Score:5, Funny)
You had a town crier? Well, didn't you kids have it easy. When I was a lad, we had to get our news by reading waterhole tracks and sniffing fresh piles of animal dung while we were dodging tyrannosaurs and brushing up on our COBOL and WATFIV Fortran lessons.
Now get off my cave!
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Oh you young ones had it so good, with your caves and animal dung! We had to sleep in the middle of an open field! We didn't have thees amenities such as "fire". You want warmth, shelter? Go kill that mammoth. And your COBOL, we had to learn damned assembly!
Get off my glacier!
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Boy are you young. I remember when the glaciers first came down, back when the Arctic Ocean was ice-free and full of plants and other wildlife.
As for you and your darned assembly, I had to manually wire each instruction with a phone patch chord. Geez, you guys had it so easy with those newfangled assemblers. Hand assembly is the way to go!
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ASSEMBLY?! LUXURY!! WE had to wire up logic circuits with nothing but NOT gates made from REDSTONE! Oh, wait, and we STILL DO!
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Hah, redstone? I used damn rocks! NOT gates? Luxury! All we had were OR gates.
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Gah! You win...
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Og
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You've got it good, when I was young, we were still waiting for the stars to generate the heavier elements!
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Of late...I don't read it through like I used to, but I do like to use it to look at the sale ads for all the places in town....and sometimes to clip coupons out for the grocery store.
And...I keep it during the week to use to light my chimney charcoal starter for the grill....and I like to grill usually at least 2x days a week.
Newsreels, Dude! (Score:2)
Didn't you grow up watching the newsreels along with movies, and knowing that the rest of the world was in Black&White, while your part was in color?
And for that matter, radio. You not only got to hear The Lone Ranger and sports scores, you got to hear Paul Harvey when he was only kind of old, and Walter Winchell, the prototype Rush Limbaugh of his day.
Re:geezer (Score:5, Insightful)
Some of us lived before the internet, you insensitive clod! If you wanted news in the 1950s, you had to buy a paper paper.
I worked for a newspaper conglomerate many years ago. Even back then, the age distribution of subscribers was simply staggering:
Below 30 : "What's a newspaper? news-paper ... is that like the latin root word where news.google.com got its name?"
30-60 : "I don't subscribe, but I know someone who does. But, I still watch the nightly network news, and all its prescription commercials."
Above 60 : "Everyone subscribes to the paper, everyone, right?"
Flammable junk mail (Score:2)
We get junk mail flyers, real estate catalogs, the local city advertising rag, and suchlike just about every day. Several actually style themselves "newspapers", but not having read them, I can't accurately judge their claim.
However, some of them are quite useful indeed, being regularly employed in lighting the sauna furnace or the fireplace. Others are worthless - they have so much coating and fillers in the paper that they don't burn properly, and we just put them straight into the recycle bin.
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Sad but true.
Missing option, of course, is that I actually do subscribe to the sunday edition of a paper. Really helps that sunday-night BBQ.
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Yup. I prefer a charcoal grill to the fancy flavorless propane grills with electric ignition that everyone around me uses, and the best way to light charcoal is with a charcoal chimney loaded with newsprint. If the USPS ever goes kaput and stops delivering me junk fliers on cheap newsprint, I'll need to subscribe to some crappy newspaper instead, like the Baltimore Sun.
Now that almost every page of every newspaper is loaded with colored ink and burns with various strangely hued flames, I don't like to use newspapers to light cooking fires any more. These days, I usually tear up a plain brown paper grocery bag when I need to light a charcoal chimney.
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Below 30 : "What's a newspaper? news-paper ... is that like the latin root word where news.google.com got its name?"
People under the age of 30 who would use phrases like "latin root word" or correctly write its instead of it's? I find that hard to believe.
I used to buy newspapers. In the morning, I got the newspaper, read the obituaries, and if I didn't find my name there, I would brew a cup of coffee and peruse the rest of the paper.
Then Murdoch happened. Once the desk disappeared and journalists were replaced with blindfold copying, the newspapers lost their value, except as padding in the bird cage, and the increas
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Some of us lived before the internet, you insensitive clod! If you wanted news in the 1950s, you had to buy a paper paper.
We had a crab feast at a friend's house yesterday and they had to go out and buy a newspaper... does that count?
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Some of us lived before the internet, you insensitive clod! If you wanted news in the 1950s, you had to buy a paper paper.
Sure, but what's the reason to read one today?
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An electronic version just isn't the same, and it doesn't have the Garfield comic! Additionally if you don't have internet you won't be able to get the news. I'll still have my newspaper in the mailbox at 5:30 in the morning.
You can read garfield for free at http://www.garfield.com/comics/todayscomic.html [garfield.com]
News on the internet is updated instantly. You can get multiple news sources for nothing so you don't read just one biased world view. You don't buy 5 different newspapers to level out the bias do you? Even then they will all have a local bias so you should throw in some foreign ones.
Re:geezer - from the outhouse (Score:2)
thats why dad bought the paper afterall!
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What is this News that you speak of. Do you mean these facts that I want hear sources or are they those lies and false reporting that says things I don't want to hear sources?
They both call themselves news. I think I will listen to the source that I agree with it makes me happier.
Radio (Score:2)
If you wanted news in the 1950s, you had to buy a paper paper.
No, that was the 1910s. By the 1920s, 1930s at most, the radio was an alternative.
Print is Dead! (Score:2)
If you're a geezer, you've seen Ghostbusters...
Weekends, (Score:2, Insightful)
for breakfast. I love a cup of coffee, a croissant and a newspaper. Sometimes the really bad tabloids are also good for this purpose.
Re:Weekends, (Score:4, Funny)
for breakfast. I love a cup of coffee, a croissant and a newspaper.
The coffee and croissant I understand, but the ink in the newspaper is near indigestible.
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And the newspaper is high in fiber!
Sunday afternoon with my parents when I was a kid usually involved the New York Times, the local paper which had the comics, after-dinner coffee, and sometimes football on TV.
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Re:Weekends, (Score:4, Funny)
Mmmmm Keyboard Croissant....
Missing Option (Score:5, Informative)
Once per week
My wife and I receive a newspaper only on Sunday and then on every national holiday. The holiday thing is just part of the subscription. What my wife is really after is the Sunday newspaper, for the coupons. She loves coupons and, hey, they save money when we shop for groceries.
Re:Missing Option (Score:5, Insightful)
This should have been the most obvious answer. All I can figure is that whoever wrote the poll has never had paper delivery and didn't realize that weekly was an option. Like you, we get the coupons and such with Sunday and have no reason to get daily. Or even read the paper, since it is easier to read the exact same stories online.
Re:Missing Option (Score:5, Funny)
Or even read the paper, since it is easier to read the exact same stories online.
The informal motto of our local paper is "yesterday's news, tomorow"
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This should have been the most obvious answer. All I can figure is that whoever wrote the poll has never had paper delivery and didn't realize that weekly was an option.
There are several options: weekly by choice (get the Sunday issue of a daily paper when you actually have time to read it); weekly by design (the way my local paper works; not much happens in this town); three or four times a week (the way the local paper works in my hometown); and I suppose other variations.
Like you, we get the coupons and such with Sunday and have no reason to get daily.
They still have those? I fondly remember the coupons from the 1970s. Haven't seen one for a while, I think.
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The way the poll is phrased, with "do you take a newspaper", leads me to believe they're British. Because that just sounds a little bit weird. So maybe in the UK they don't really do weekly newspapers, whereas in North America it's very common to get a newspaper weekly.
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I wish the local paper would treat the Sunday edition as a separate weekly paper, covering the most important things that they covered during in the daily paper through out the week. Instead, all the ones I've read the just treat it as just one of their daily editions, only covering the news that happens to fall on the day before, but with a bunch of extra crap (coupons, comics, celebrity gossip, etc), that I don't really care about.
Re:Missing Option (Score:5, Insightful)
What you want is called The Economist.
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I love the Economist and had a subscription before I went back to grad school and no longer had time to read it. What I have never been able to find is a decent weekly that covers local news and politics.
Those markets seem to be dominated by dailies both in print and on TV. In addition to the fact that I don't have time to read a paper every day, daily coverage tends to result in shallow blow-by-blow coverage, rather than more filled out coverage after there has been time to get sufficient information about
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What you want is called The Economist.
I like the Economist, although its a little too mainstream to be useful. Something like "Zerohedge magazine", if it actually existed, would be pretty useful.
Did the Economist ever fix that bug where Kindle subscriptions were like twice the cost of paper subscriptions?
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Did the Economist ever fix that bug where Kindle subscriptions were like twice the cost of paper subscriptions?
Had not heard of that one. However, iPad and Android subscriptions are free with a print subscription (so is web access). We installed the Android app on my daughter's phone, so she would stop stealing my print copy of The Economist every time I put it down.
Re:Missing Option (Score:4, Funny)
>>She loves coupons and, hey, they save money when we shop for groceries.
My wife saved over $400 on a new fridge last week, the week before she saved $500 on furnature. She says she is saving for our retirement...
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My wife saved over $400 on a new fridge last week, the week before she saved $500 on furnature. She says she is saving for our retirement...
I save at least $40/week by buying cask wine, and cigarettes in cartons.
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>>She loves coupons and, hey, they save money when we shop for groceries.
My wife saved over $400 on a new fridge last week, the week before she saved $500 on furnature. She says she is saving for our retirement...
We saved even more by NOT buying a new fridge or furniture.
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So you keep your milk bottles in a wet sack, in a dark cupboard? They do need replacing every now and then. And newer models are energy efficient enough to pay for themselves after 5-10 years, assuming they last that long. Lower carbon and all that as well.
I replaced a 5 year old heating system because the new system would pay for itself in 3 to 4 years, for example. Oh, and I hate sitting on the bare floor, so furniture is nice every now and then.
Re:Missing Option (Score:4, Interesting)
My wife and I receive a newspaper only on Sunday and then on every national holiday.
We wanted the Sunday paper for the same reason, and we also wanted access to the electronic version of the paper. For us it ended up being cheaper to get physical papers Friday through Sunday - it's a weird subscription option I guess, but then you don't have to pay for the "e-version".
Generally I prefer reading the news online, but I also think it's important to help pay the salaries of the people out there gathering the local news. We have some so-called local news bloggers, but they have no idea how to investigate and develop a story.
When was the last time you saw, real reporting?? (Score:2)
I also think it's important to help pay the salaries of the people out there gathering the local news.
We have some so-called local news bloggers, but they have no idea how to investigate and develop a story.
Yeah, I don't... many, many jobs have been replaced by new technology and new ways of doing things...
a reporter that is staying with a failing paper... deserves to disappear into the night. You have to stay
flexible and stay ahead of the game if you are in an industry that is getting shaken up by progress and
technology.
Anyway except for a very rare one indeed... every reporter I've heard for the past decade+... has no
idea how to report let alone WRITE a report. So, was there a point?
And that's why newspapers
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I don't have a subscription, but I also buy the weekly. On Fridays one of our newspapers has some interesting "supplements" (Reviews of cultural events, interesting interviews, etc) that make it worth it.
I'd buy the digital version (which despite being cheaper, it's probably more profitable to them), but they manage to screw up the PDF so bad it's unbearable. The images in particular seem to have been compressed using JPEG's max level, and then resized down and up again. It's awful.
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The problem w/ Sundays only is the automatic "upsell" that some papers like to do.
After a while, my local papers would start upgrading to "Weekends" for the same great price, then 7 days per week for the same price (for a short fixed period). Eventually it became a full priced subscription that ended up going straight to the recycle bin. At that point, I realize I get my news online and I rarely used coupons, and I'd cancel.
My folks still read their papers religiously. I don't get why they enjoy yesterday's
Re:Missing Option (Score:5, Insightful)
She loves coupons and, hey, they save money when we shop for groceries
No, they save YOU money when you shop for groceries. They COST me money when you shop for groceries. Standard pricing is inflated to cover the loss from coupons. Rewarding those whose opportunity costs are so low that clipping coupons is a net benefit, and penalizing those who actually spend their time being productive.
That is about the most pathetic claim to victimhood I've read all week. And I've read Slashdot every day.
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No, they save YOU money when you shop for groceries. They COST me money when you shop for groceries. Standard pricing is inflated to cover the loss from coupons. Rewarding those whose opportunity costs are so low that clipping coupons is a net benefit, and penalizing those who actually spend their time being productive.
That is about the most pathetic claim to victimhood I've read all week. And I've read Slashdot every day.
Do you mean "pathetic" in its vernacular usage, ie. "contempibly inadequate" , or in the traditional sense - that the victim's plight moved you to sympathy and tears, that your heart poured out for him. I trust it was the latter - that was my reaction! Where can I donate to the victims of coupon surcharges?
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...far better to point out that you save far more money from avoiding the brands associated with the coupons.
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I'm glad I don't live in the horrible world you describe, or at least don't shop at whatever terrible stores you patronize (Wal*Mart by any chance?)
At the grocers I use, store brands tend to be 100% the quality at 90% the price, and the normal brands aren't marked up at all (and are frequently cheaper than the store brand when on special offer). It's all very civilized really.
Have a nice week!
Re:Missing Option (Score:4, Insightful)
Sounds fair to me (and I never use coupons). The only drawback to the system might be listening to the occasional whiner... and truthfully, I never imagined I'd actually hear one before you posted.
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The stores here have all stopped using coupons. They just give the sale price to everyone. For a while, they would keep a copy of each coupon at the cash, and just scan it in for you automatically. Now that everyone has stopped the farce, the checkout lines move faster, their costs are lower, and nobody wastes time looking for coupons.
The manufacturers costs are also lower as well, since they no longer have the costs of printing and distributing coupons, and they also get the benefit of everyone buyin
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Here some still have them, but they're not distributed by the newspapers - they're given to you by the store itself every month. It's probably a way to get people to use the costumer card so they can track your purchase profile.
You also get personalized coupons for products similar to ones you use to buy, as a way to get you to try the brands they want.
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Locally, most of the large petrol station brands are alligned with one or another of the large supermarket brands. Shopping at the aligned supermarket get you vouchers for discounts at the petrol station - which they presumably mark up to cover the discount equivalent. This means that if you don't shop at the aligned supermarket, you get charged an extra couple of cents per litre when you fill up. Awesome.... not!
Re:Missing Option (Score:5, Interesting)
No, they [coupons] save YOU money when you shop for groceries. They COST me money when you shop for groceries.
Standard pricing is inflated to cover the loss from coupons. Rewarding those whose opportunity costs are so low that clipping coupons is a net benefit, and penalizing those who actually spend their time being productive.
No, while that sounds like it ought to be true, in real-world economics it actually isn't.
You have a naive mental model that goods have an "actual" cost, and thus if a vendor sells some of the goods for less than the "actual" cost, they have to sell other goods for more, or they'll lose money. But that's not real world economics. In fact, the "actual" cost is the sum of fixed costs plus the variable cost. If the vendor can sell more of a particular good, by selling it to people who are only willing to buy it if they get a "discount" at the cost of their own inconvenience (in clipping coupons), the vendor selling more will cover more of the vendor's fixed cost, and so it's actually a net BENEFIT to you.
Counterintuitive, but nevertheless true.
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Actually, you're wrong. Coupons shift demand (either from the future, or from other brands) - they don't create it, because there's a natural limit to total consumption. It doesn't matter if the price of your favourite loaf of bread or whatever drops to zero with a coupon - you can only eat so much, or stockpile so much.
Coupons impose an additional cost to everyone, including the manufacturer (co-op advertising and handling costs, etc), and the storekeeper. Longer line-ups, the cost of handling the co
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You assume that each store product as some sort of specific cost which mush be recouped on that specific item. This is far from the truth. A grocery store knows that they can sell a product at a discounted rate (even taking a net loss on the product) because people will come to the store for the deal. People rarely come to a grocery store for one product though. They driv
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Maybe, but as I've tried to explain to my mom several times, if every time she goes to Safeway she gets back a receipt that tells her she saved 20 percent, then that's not really a 20 percent savings; that's the real price.
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Same here. Also, having some newspaper on hand gives me a way to start my charcoal grill without lighter fluid.
And here, also. We get The Economist which lasts a couple of days for cover-to-cover reading. Alas, it does not burn well, being made with SC paper (too much clay and other fillers). However, courtesy of various local outfits we are amply supplied with sufficiently flammable junk mail at no cost to us, and this fulfills our firelighting needs.
Pay per joke (Score:2)
Fry'sDay Ad (Score:2)
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I had to as part of school (Score:2)
I had to as part of school
"current events" class.
I can not believe you guys.
-- Terry
NYTimes in High School History Class (Score:2)
Back in the early 70s, my high school had a deal with the New York Times that got them a cheap subscription to the daily paper, and reading it was part of American History class. I had that first period in the morning, so I got to read it when the teacher was also reading it for the day, so we got more newspaper time than the later classes did.
Murdoch shit (Score:2)
I'd much rather read the news in a paper than online, but there isn't a newsagent anywhere near where i live. The local shop only sells the Murdoch shit rag, the Northern Territory News, and i wouldn't even wipe my arse with that. If i want a decent newspaper, i have to catch the ferry over to town and buy the Sydney Morning Herald, which doesn't come in till mid afternoon anyway.
The Age, Melbourne (Score:2)
I have had a newspaper delivered in the past, but not for many years. The local broadsheet (The Age) has an excellent iOS app and I can read the paper in bed in the morning before getting up on my iPad, and get updates later in the day from their website.
About the only thing I don't get through the electronic version is the daily quiz and th comics. But given my office gets the papers delivered daily, I read these in the breakroom when passing through at some point during the day.
bad english (Score:2)
is it just me or is the question and some options make no sense? 'Do I take a print newspaper at home?' what is it? a pill?
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Take it where?
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I'm guessing that the newspaper will need to be rolled up first.
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Yeah, ironic (or intentional?) that they use an expression for "subscribe" that's even more archaic than print newspapers themselves...
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Wait now I have to take my breakfast somewhere also?
Usually I just have breakfast (or eat breakfast). I don't really take it any significant distance.
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It's as if there's more than one dialect of English! Maybe they even use English in some other countries.
What is this I don't even.
Missing option: once a week (Score:2)
I buy The Age on saturdays but its more of a habit now than anything else. I only really read the magazine. If I want news I go to google. I don't follow links to The Age on sundays because their trolling pisses me off.
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I, too, get the sunday paper, which usually sits in my driveway until Monday morning when it finally gets tossed, unread. But my wife insists we still need to get the paper.
No point (Score:2)
I used to deliver the damned things (Score:2)
The Thanksgiving weekend newspaper was always a killer. I can recall when they were as much as an inch thick after we had assembled them from the stacks of sections. I had over 150 subscribers in individual homes. Getting all that to their doorsteps was a problem with all the trips we had to make going back home to refill our carts.
However, back then, there was no internet. There were about five BBS systems nationwide, and what few uploads and downloads we had were usually very short programs.
I used my pr
More Missing Options (Score:2)
It's probably not as common as Sunday only delivery vs daily but in the Denver area, the Post offers a Thursday/Friday/Saturday/Sunday delivery option which we use. While I do read the paper when we get it (most of the time), we mainly use it to line the litter box. It's just enough newspaper.
I also pick up The City Paper (Westword) when we're in Boulder and the local town paper which is a weekly but shows up at least twice a week; once by itself and once in the Sunday Post.
[John]
Newspapers are too awful to buy (Score:3)
Silicon Valley used to have a good newspaper, the San Jose Mercury News. Although they were profitable, Knight-Ridder sold them to "Media News Group" (mission statement: "We will proactively identify and develop strategic partnerships and relationships to enhance our content and services while integrating our content for dissemination across all available distribution platforms in our markets, beginning with the local newspaper.") Most of the reporters were laid off, and there are perhaps three pages of original content in the daily edition.
The San Francisco Chronicle has descended so far into mediocrity that parts of the paper are produced by Demand Media, the web spammer. Really. The previous mayor of San Francisco commented that "if the Chronicle stopped publishing a paper edition, nobody under the age of 30 would notice".
Abandoned newspaper racks on streets are becoming a nuisance. Racks in SF were stickered with a city notice like the one for abandoned cars, which basically says "put some papers in this thing or it's going to be towed". Now most of them are gone.
The US has maybe half a dozen real daily newspapers left - The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, and maybe a few others. Everything else is junk. There are still some good magazines, but the daily business is dead.
I stopped because it came too late (Score:2)
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I used to read Calvin and Hobbes... (Score:2)
Missing option (Score:2)
Where the "I get a newspaper on Weekends" option?
On the weekeneds its time to kick back, read the paper, slow down.
During the week, who has time?
Two daily papers delivered to the house... (Score:2)
We get the daily paper, BUT .... (Score:2)
The only reason we signed up for it was because they gave my wife a special offer/deal. I don't even remember the details anymore, but I believe it amounted to receiving it free for at least the first month or two and some other kind of bonus thrown in. Most mornings, I don't have time to look at it before it's time to head off to rush the kid to school and go to work. By the time I'm home in the evening, I've usually heard most or all of the significant news they covered, so there's not much reason to r
pay too much... (Score:2)
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Agreed, there is something nice about folding up the newspaper and filling in the crossword, the way the biro feels on the paper that can't be reproduced by printing out a crossword or filing it in on screen.
Radio works fine (Score:2)
Or TV, if you've got one of those in the bathroom. I've occasionally stayed in hotels where you can see the room TV from the bathroom, either directly or in the mirror.
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Yeah the news from yesterday gets sent to a big factory where a static representation of it is printed on to thin sheets of pressed wood pulp. It is then folded into thick slabs of pseudo-wood and loaded into trucks. Early in the morning a few of these slabs are handed to children who cycle through the streets attempting to break your windows by throwing them at your house. The occupants of the houses open up the slabs and use them to line the bottoms of bird cages while they sit down with a coffee and brow
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They're doing that so they can report higher circulation numbers. The incremental cost of printing another newspaper has historically been less than zero, since it's paid for by advertisers. And since you're not a subscriber, the person delivering it isn't costing the company anything either.
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If you have to hear about someone's death from their obituary, you weren't really their friend and they don't consider you family.
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Now that that is out of the way I agree. I wish my paper would get rid of the human interest crap, the worst was during the government shutdown they went out and immediately found tons of people who's life was going to end since there weren't any government services except for the list of essential services. The paper use to have detailed coverage of the goings on in the state and federal legislatures, business, world,