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Beanie Award Wrapup

CowboyNeal posted more than 14 years ago | from the come-on-down dept.

The 2000 Beanies 174

Well, last Thursday evening we announced the Beanie award winners at the Slashdot/Andover/VA shindig at The China Club. For those of you not able to attend, I've written a synopsis below, otherwise you can watch the whole deal at TheSync. You can grab the awards in both streaming and downloadable format. And, if you'd like to see some pictures from the show, check out Brian Hawkins' online-pix as well as Kurt Gray's pix from the Andover booth.

The awards began predictably enough as Hemos narrowly took home the Hemos award. It amazes me how many people actually abstained rather than vote for Hemos, but alas, he still won. *grin* The award for Best Dressed went to Tux. Sadly, no one ever thought to nominate or vote for the fine women of FreeBSD, and Tux didn't even bother to show up for the award, leaving me with no one to hug. *pout* However, an Anonymous Coward was on hand to accept the Favorite Comment Poster award, as was CmdrTaco for the Favorite Author award. The Best Slashdot Story went to Quickies, and the Cluestick award for FUD went to Microsoft. Also, the pair of "Bully" awards for domain bullying and patent bullying went to Etoys and Amazon, repsectively.

The fun awards done with, it was time to get a little more serious (but not much) for the two grand awards. Best Unix Desktop Eyecandy went to Enlightenment, and Best Unix Earcandy went to XMMS. Best Desktop Theme went to BrushedMetal, which everyone uses at least a part of. The Best Perl Module award went to CGI, the best Apache Module award went to mod_perl, and the Best Open Source Text Editor went to vim. It's good to see things that I couldn't do my job without get some recognition, although I could probably have said the same about any of the nominees (except for Emacs, but that's a different matter entirely *grin*) The "Most Deserving of $2000" award went to Debian, while the Best Book award went to Programming Perl. Finally in this award category, the Non-graphical and Graphical Interface awards went to Pine and The GIMP, respectively.

The award for Most Improved Kernel Module went to USB, probably because it went from non-existent to usable in so short of a time. Alan Cox won the Unsung Hero award and immediately donated his winnings to the DVD defense fund, proving that he is indeed worthy of the name hero. Best Newbie Helper went to Tom Christiansen, famous for helping newbies find their way out of #perl (I'm kidding! Okay, only a little. Tom still rocks in my book.) and Most Deserving Open Source Charity went to the FSF. Best Open Source Advocate went to Linus Torvalds, surprisingly enough, but advocating by doing is one of the best ways to do it.

Finally, the Big Award for Most Improved Open Source Project went to the GNOME project. All of the nominees in this category were projects that at some point people shook their heads at, and now use on a daily basis, but GNOME just happened to beat out the rest.

Also, a new award for "Best Merger/Acquisition" was announced and awarded to VA Linux/Andover.Net to follow that day's news. All in all it was a good night, with lots of free beer and getting to know people who I'd only seen before on IRC or through e-mail. I imagine it was that way for a lot of people there.

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Cynical old me... (2)

Nodatadj (28279) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297690)

It seems from all of this that it's just a way for Andover to try to buddy up to the Open Source community..."Look we're giving you 100,000$ for no reason at all, we're nice people".

Like as someone said somewhere, (either here, or themes.org - can't remember), "Why do we care about Andover.net? All they did was buy some successful portals"

Say byebye karma.

Tommy.. (2)

technos (73414) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297691)

Best Newbie Helper went to Tom Christiansen, famous for helping newbies find their way out of #perl

I don't think the local trolls could have said it any better! Reminds me of the one helpful soul in #perl who, after looking at my code, told me what I could do with that copy of Perl Cookbook, and no, it wasn't RTFM.

Does this make sense? (3)

Rombuu (22914) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297692)

<i>Alan Cox won the Unsung Hero award and immediately donated his winnings to the DVD defense fund</i>

Nothing against Alan, and it is nice that he donated his winnings to the DVD guys, but does it really makes sense to have a popular vote for an Unsung Hero? If so, shouldn't the person who comes in last get the award, since almost by definition, an unsung person is largely unknown and will have little chance of winning?

Re:Does this make sense? (2)

technos (73414) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297693)

When you hear/see/read about Linux, who do you hear mentioned? Linus. Not AC, who probably contributed as much code to the current kernel as any other human. Not AC, who has consistantly spearheaded the cutting edge development, through v4l, USB, etc.

In that sense Alan Cox was the man for the award. And deservedly so.

Most Stable Open Source Project? (1)

jelwell (2152) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297694)

Is it me, or should there have been a Most Stable/Usable Open Source Project? GNOME certainly wouldn't have won. But even the darling Linux probably wouldn't have won this one.

Post your winner for the Most Stable/Usable Open Source Project below.
Joseph Elwell.

Slashgrit beanie awards (3)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297695)

Coming soon... the Slashgrits [geocities.com] beanie awards.

How many bowls of hot grits should we pour down Rob's pants?

Thank you.

Re:Cynical old me... (1)

pen (7191) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297696)

Wasn't it Slashdot who made the awards?

--

Best Desktop Theme (2)

worth (132011) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297697)

This is one of the more dissapointing areas of the awards. I was sad to only see Enlightment/Enlightment Based themes. There are a lot of other great themes in other window managers. For example, Blackbox(the window manager I use) has a lot of great themes--my favorite, is the default Sleet. I think it looks great, but that's only my opinion.

One of the more surprising awards was the one awarded to Alan Cox, the unsung hero awarded. I was glad that he got it, but I didn't think he would--he is usually mentioned in many of Slashdot's stories. It's nice of him for donating the money, so it's probably a good thing that he got the award.

call me cynical of cynics, but... (1)

T.Hobbes (101603) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297698)

... it just seems like andover is trying to share some of the big $$ they got from the OSS community.
don't look a gift horse in the mouth...

Re:Does this make sense? (2)

Duxup (72775) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297699)

I have to agree, by even being nominated you prove your not that unsung. I think those people nominated should all get the hug for their work, and the award should be given to "That unsung guy we can't talk about." So that we don't ruin it for him.

Pine best non-graphical? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297700)

Oh my and nominate the next biggest non-free software (MS Office) as the best production software.

Thank you.

AC Inc.

Re:Does this make sense? (2)

worth (132011) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297701)

AC as in Anonymous Coward ? :)

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297702)

Nice job, moderate the trolls up.

Re:Does this make sense? (1)

Myddrin (54596) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297703)

Personally I think it does. If you take Unsung hero to mean unsung by the press.

I mean think of all the press Linus/Red Hat/etc. gets... and then compare that to RMS, ESR, Alan, etc. etc. etc. etc. I mean OSS is literally standing on the shoulders of giants. (Personally I think the unsung hero should have gone to the MoRE for their DeCSS, but that's me. Nothing against Alan, love the man like a son. (not really, don't know but he does impress the *fuck* out of me.) And I think this is an apporpriate way to reward the less appreciated amongst the OSS community....

Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? (2)

handorf (29768) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297704)

Well, if you're going to snuff out Linux out of the gate (although I disagree, but that's probably because I compare it to NT)..

Sendmail? (So it's not the GPL. So What?)

Apache?

WindowMaker (A personal favorite)?

Just random thoughts.

Wow (1)

Foogle (35117) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297705)

You know what? I've got major Karma to burn here, so I'm just going to say it: CmdrTaco is a huge dork. He's also pretty ugly. Hemos, on the other hand, is kind of good looking -- and CowboyNeal is just a fatty.

But, back on topic here, Rob really is a dork. I mean, seriously, this is the kind of guy that I normally make fun of -- he doesn't even have a stage presence, so why the heck did they put him up there?? It's ridiculous...

Anyway, mark me down fuckers - 'cause I don't care anymore!! HAHAHAHHAHAH!

-----------

"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

Re:call me cynical of cynics, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297706)

it just seems like andover is trying to share some of the big $$ they got from the OSS community.

Oh, wait, this sounds interesting. We've got to meet in person soon. I've got some nice swampland to sell!

Unbelievable...

The only reason.... (1)

GNUs-Not-Good (130016) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297707)

GNOME won for most improved is because it was so bad in the first place. Even with all of the supposed imporvements, it still can't touch KDE.

KDE is more stable, has more features, and is overall a much better project, with nicer project leaders and a better toolkit.

Re:Does this make sense? (1)

Afterimage (44695) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297708)

Only if I win since I was unnominated for the award and am therefore emminently qualified to win. Of course, I don't know that I would have given the money back to the community. Huzzahs to Alan.

So what do you plan for next year? (0)

Steve G Swine (49788) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297709)

Will the FSF get the Best Open Source Charity award every year forever, and will Linus get the Advocate award every year forever?

Or is there some expectation that these folks will be "dethroned" at some point?

Or are Beanies not an annual award/excuse to drink beer?

Controversy and semantics (1)

SkulkCU (137480) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297710)

No, no, no. Nominees are eligible because they do not have ballads (yet) singing their praises. Although Alan's been on t-shirts and mentioned in numerous .sig's, we have yet to hear a song about him.

There was a bit of contoversy with the other nominees, because although Linus has not yet had any folk-songs sung of him by the firelight, he was excluded becuase there was an off-off-broadway musical about him. While some argue that this is not in the spirit of a true hero's song, others maintain that ANY song qualifies to create an officialy 'Sung Hero'.

What they didn't say (1)

Pike (52876) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297711)

They told us CmdrTaco was voted favorite /. author.

What we really want to know was how many people actually voted for jon katz :-)

To make it fair, why not give us the results for every entry, instead of just telling us who won?

JD

Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? (2)

QuMa (19440) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297712)

I nominate cat. It's never crashed, I use it daily, and I couldn't live without it.

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297713)

why not ? we let karma whores without an original thought in their head moderate themselves up so why not a troll ? at least he/she was original :)

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297714)

But he's funny, therefore he gets a funny point. You on the other hand are trollish and offtopic so you should get a troll point and an offtopic point!!!

Too bad... (1)

rbf (2305) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297715)

Too bad there isn't a RealPlayer for Alpha Linux... That would be kinda useful IMHO.

Re:Best Desktop Theme (1)

Filgy (2588) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297716)

I think that only enlightenment themes got nominated because most themes for other windowmanagers are merely a different set of images and colors from all the other themes for that windowmanager. Enlightenment themes are truly unique from theme to theme (for the most part).

the stink of corporate......descent of /. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297717)

is it just me or does the aroma emmanating from /. now resemble that of any other corporate entity...... the scent of money always smells like sewer....

Re:whoopdy-doo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297718)

I think it says a lot if GIMP won an award for best GUI interface....

(Hey, I love GIMP, it deserves a real award, but the interface sucks).

Hemos Award - The Conspiracy (3)

Rodney L Caston (143815) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297719)

I feel the Hemos Award was rigged, It should have been presented to me as I feel I am a better "Hemos" then the Hemos who accepted the award. This leads me to believe that there is a conspiracy underway to prevent the more worthy Hemos-i from stepping forward to claim their heritage. No - instead we are forced to acknowledge this false prophet Hemos as our true Hemos. This is most Anti-Hemos and his coming has been told in the great book of Hemos for some Hemoniums now. Anonymous Hemos #981376351

GPL qustn: If I lease modded code, must I release? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297720)

If I modify a piece of GPL'd code and include in in a system that I lease (not sell or give away) to a customer, then does GPL require that I release the source code? I am always the owner of the system, so the code really never left my possession, yes?

MODERATE THIS UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297721)

Suggested score: 5, insightful.

Scandal! (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297722)

The Beanie awards were fixed! It was planned for Hemos to win the Hemos award, right from the beginning! He is an Andover.Net employee, and should have been disqualified because of this. The real winner was Abstain, but somebody with administrative access to the database (*cough*Hemos*cough*) must have tampered with the votes.

Nice ass. (2)

kevlar (13509) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297723)

BSD Ass [xoom.com] ... check it out.

Re:Cynical old me... (2)

El Volio (40489) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297724)

Hmm, being as both /. and themes.org are now part of VA Linux per the Andover buy-out, methinks you have answered your own question.

"Why do we care?"
"Because that's where we are."

Re:What they didn't say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297725)

To make it fair, why not give us the results for every entry, instead of just telling us who won?

Because Slashdot & its readers give lip service to open source, but are too 'l33t' to let you see the results. Security through obscurity. Voter fraud by not knowing the results. No difference between the 2.

Re:Nice ass. (2)

kevlar (13509) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297726)

http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-088.j pg

You'll have to copy and paste to see it... they're not allowing links :(

Next year's nomination for the (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297727)

"You ignorant interloper, you're not one of us, and you never will be. OK, the hellmouth series was interesting but the rest of your stuff is crap, so take this money and leave us the fuck alone!" award should be JonKatz

Anonymous because I'm a closet karma whore.

duh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297728)

I would have to say Windows 98

Re:the stink of corporate......descent of /. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297729)

the scent of money always smells like sewer....

In that case, please give me all your money. Thanks.

Re:The only reason.... (2)

Millennium (2451) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297730)

GNOME won for most improved is because it was so bad in the first place. Even with all of the supposed imporvements, it still can't touch KDE.

You know, you could try not flaming. Why can't Gnome touch KDE? And yes, Gnome was pretty bad to start. That's why it's called improvement.

KDE is more stable, has more features, and is overall a much better project, with nicer project leaders and a better toolkit.

One: you're dead wrong about stability. Compare the two, and it's a wash; both are pretty good but both still have a way to go.
Features: Pray tell, what does KDE have that Gnome doesn't?
Nicer project leaders: I'll grant, the KDE project leaders are nice. Even their responses to flames are nice (take it from someone who once flamed KWM and got called on it, by KWM's maintainer no less). But I don't see how Gnome's project leaders are any less nice. You'd better be ready with examples for this one...
Four: Better toolkit? Ever programmed in both of them? Unless you have, you have no right to compare.

A briliant troll (1)

law (5166) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297731)

I am usualy of the opinion that feeding trolls is a bad thing; but this is unique.
Maybe someone will post it as a article. Then I guess it would not be a troll anymore, Oh the irony!

But what were the stats!? (1)

kwclark (64803) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297732)

What were the vote results? Its all fine and nice to know Linus won the best open source advocate, but we want to know how RMS, ESR, and all the other TLAs did.

Ken

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (1)

Wah (30840) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297733)

wow, trolls DO have a lot of time on their hands.

Mix this with that Suckdot piece from a while back and we'd have a new sport...SuckGrits!

Re:Bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297734)

bullshit. KDE and gnome both suck. use AfterStep and see what youre missing with your crappy 'im an idiot - look i need pretty pictures' wms. Real Men use AfterStep.

Re:Hemos Award - The Conspiracy (3)

Hemos (2) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297735)

I am the Way, The Truth, and The One True Hemos. Only through me shall the hemos be dispensed, and thus only through me shall the Hordes of hemos control the earth.

Who voted for Tom Christiansen? (2)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297736)

Tom definitely doesn't deserve the "Best Newbie Helper" award. Sure, he's co-authored many great Perl books, but this just serves to confuse the facts. Tom's EVIL. (He's actually LAWFUL EVIL, which also confuses people, but just remember: EVIL is the opposite of GOOD.)

Go read Larry Wall's 2nd State of the Onion [perl.com] address. Pay particular attention to the following paragraphs:

Most of you are familiar with the virtues of a programmer. There are three, of course: laziness, impatience, and hubris.

These are virtues of passion. They are not, however, virtues of community. The virtues of community sound like their opposites: diligence, patience, and humility.

They're not really opposites, because you can do them all at the same time. It's another matter of perspective. These are the virtues that have brought us this far. These are the virtues that will carry our community into the future, if we do not abandon them.

If anyone can show me A SINGLE INSTANCE of Tom being either patient or humble, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, I'm going to keep on believing that this award was given to Tom not because he deserved it, but because he led the pack in name recognition.

Re:What they didn't say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297737)

Jon Katz got one vote and that was his mother. Even he doesn't himself!!!

Trolls (2)

HaikuMan (149428) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297738)

Vital to slashdot
Denied cheap Andover stock
Give trolls a beanie

Re:Does this make sense? (2)

Tower (37395) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297739)

>AC, who probably contributed as much code to the current kernel as any other human.

Yup - a great choice 8^)

I think Donald Becker should have gotten a prize, too. How many people would be reading /. from a linux box without his network drivers. For that matter, how much more slowly would everthing have developed without the aid of ethernet access? Yes someone *would* have done it, eventually, but <i>he</> did it, and deserves many kudos (and I don't mean the candy bar - do they still exist?).

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297740)

Reminds me of the movie "Bulworth" a congreeman hires a man to kill him, and, knowing he'll be dead within 24 hours, no longer cares, and consequently SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

This sort of bravery & independence deserve recognition, not negative moderation by lackey moderators who gained karma by posting "insightful" and "interesting" "Linux Good MS Bad/GNOME Good KDE Bad" posts.

he weebles and he wobbles but he won't fall down! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297741)

Everyone should watch the video just to see the fat guy. Had me laughing for a solid hour.

Ugly George?! (1)

triple6 (50069) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297742)

Geez, I didn't think that guy was still alive?!

http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-036 .jpg
http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-037 .jpg
http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-086 .jpg

Anybody know if his "show" is still on the air?
/me shudders.

Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? (2)

Nodatadj (28279) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297743)

Windowmaker crashed quite frequently for me, so it wouldn't be win.

Breakdown of votes (1)

rotten_ (132663) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297744)

I was really hoping to see a breakdown of the votes as well as just the winners. Or at least a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Is there plans to do this?

-k

Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? (1)

Tower (37395) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297745)

ls has been pretty good to me 8^)

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (1)

ellem (147712) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297746)

Absolutely brilliant. Complete with nudity and a real sense of humor. Should be there everytime I click on Netscape...(which regrettably is quite often, usually right after Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)

Re:The only reason.... (1)

GNUs-Not-Good (130016) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297747)

Well put....you made my point exactly.

Best dressed my ass! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297748)

I was robbed! [dorsai.org]

Thank you.

Re:Does this make sense? (1)

Anonymous_Hero (142498) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297749)

I think that both AC and Donald Becker deserved the prize. Without Donald Becker's ethernet drivers, I might still be an unhappy NT user.

GIMP was undeserving (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297750)

As a side note, even before my actual 1 cent, I have this. Why is it that people seem to assume that if they can foretell another's actions those actions somehow become less worthwhile. For example, somehow I assume that if I say "Mark this as a -2 Troll, I expect moderators to reel back, aghast that I was able to open up the intricate workings of their mind, and that to do so now would be to vindicate my assumptions. That was a bit less organized than my usual rantings.

Oh yes, my actual note. The gimp has a terrible user interface, with those right mouse bring up menus.

Re:GPL qustn: If I lease modded code, must I relea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297751)

Ummm... I'm not exactly sure what this question is doing here, but, as far as I can tell, the key word here is "distribute." You've distributed the code for use by others -- commercial use, no less. Sorry, but it's most likely time to fork over the source, as well. Hell: if you're leasing it, and you wrote it speicifically *for* them, why not try to do what OS is all about? Support the hell out of 'em, and charge 'em up the wazoo.

Re:The only reason.... (2)

Tower (37395) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297752)

>One: you're dead wrong about stability. Compare the two, and it's a wash; both are pretty good but both still have a way to go.

Yup, both are pretty good, but have some room for improvement... I have been running KDE on my AIX workstation for several months no with litle or no incident (knock on polymer desk surface). I haven't gotten Gnome running over here yet, so I can't compare the two on this platform, but at home on Linux I haven't had any problems with KDE, and very few with (the newer releases of) Gnome...

I think both are good features wise - they aim at a different user segment, it seems, but both are configurable to whatever you really want (Gnome may have the edge here).

>Better toolkit? Ever programmed in both of them? Unless you have, you have no right to compare.

hmmm... I have, and I can say that QT is (IMHO) a lot nicer than GTK... but (shrug) it all depends on what styles you like as a programer. I find the interface easier and more intuitive, and the end results of either one can be pretty much identical (as I duck from the flying flames).

All in all, I started using KDE before Gnome (back when both were really bad), and that may have skewed my views, but all that really matters is What Works For You(TM).

I am the Susan Lucci of the Beanie Awards (3)

Bowie J. Poag (16898) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297753)



humor_mode(on);

When I found out E won, I looked up from my plate of pancakes and said, "Well, that sucks. I shoulda won that one." (I really like pancakes) ..It put a damper on my whole day. "Bastards," I thought to myself, "..dont these people realize that its a windowmanager?" I mean, cthulga, xlockmore, thats eye-candy. Saying a windowmanager is eye-candy is like saying "Mmmm! Wow! Look at the morals on that gal!" ..A windowmanager is incidental to what goes _in_ it. Propaganda is a $5,000 paintjob with 10 layers of polyurethane high-gloss finish. Enlightenment is merely a chassis.

As I ate my pancakes, I imagined Geoff and Carsten gladly accepting the award, and the $2000 prize that went with it.. I imagined them going to the bank to cash it, and stopping by Piggly Wiggly to pick up a roll of scotch tape, only to march home, tape all the bills together in one big long line, roll it up, and insert it into the toilet paper holder right next to the john. "Damnit!" I said to myself, "Geoff and Carsten make too much money! Salary! Stock options! What good would two grand do those two?" , and I began to dream...What would I do with two grand?

I'd put it to good use, thats what I would do with it.

I'd hire a skywriter up in Redmond to put the words "WE SUCK" with a big arrow pointing down to Microsoft's HQ, every day for a year.

I'd go to one of those ultra-sized supermarks and buy like 200 kegs of Log Cabin syrup..keep one for my pancakes, and pour the rest into Lake Washington where Gates lives, so his whole house smells like maple syrup for weeks. Call in the news media, and blame it on Bill, saying he finally went nutty like Howard Hughes did. "He just likes dumping maple syrup into the lake behind his house, then denying it." , i'd tell the press.

Or, if on that particular day, I felt particularly artistic, I would ...eh, well...if only I had won. Maybe the world could have been different.

I'll just eat my pancakes and wait till next year. ;)

"Well, at least your not like Susan Lucci....not yet." - My dad

humor_mode(off);

Congrats Carsten & Geoff :)


Bowie J. Poag
Project Manager, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://propaganda.themes.org [themes.org] )

hello (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297754)

i've just put a flute in my ass. the flute is not magical.

--Linux and flutes in my ass. Does it get any better?

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297755)

You know what? I've got major Karma to burn here, so I'm just going to say it: CmdrTaco is a huge dork. He's also pretty ugly. Hemos, on the other hand, is kind of good looking -- and CowboyNeal is just a fatty.

But, back on topic here, Rob really is a dork. I mean, seriously, this is the kind of guy that I normally make fun of -- he doesn't even have a stage presence, so why the heck did they put him up there?? It's ridiculous...

Anyway, mark me down fuckers - 'cause I don't care anymore!! HAHAHAHHAHAH!

Ha ha, that's the funniest thing I've read on Slashdot in a while.... noone really gives a fuck anymore... people came to Slashdot to check out a few links to stories that were semi intersting. As it progresses we've learned that the people who run this site are idiots.

AC OUT

Re:Wow (2)

rellort (146793) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297756)

Yep. I've seen it before. Slashdot burnout.

Too many Open-Source cheerleader stories. Too much psuedo-geek masturbation. Too many flames for people expressing opinions not SDC (SlashDot Correct).

Symptoms: Unmasked flaming, frustration with narrow-minded Linux zealots, not giving a flip about your "Karma" anymore.

Treatment: Abstain from Slashdot for a while. Take a vacation. Sharply limit future Slashdot visits. Let your old login die and create a new one with no traceable identifiers so you can flame freely. Post a well-crafted troll every now and then.

You've been reading Slashduh too long and too much, Foogle. The quality of the contributions around here is dropping. The good old days are over. Take a breather. When you come back, have some fun posting pure garbage with a default 2.

rellort -- President of Slashaholics Anonymous -- "Just because I use Linux doesn't mean I have to talk about it all damn day."

Re:Does this make sense? (2)

technos (73414) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297757)

Yeah. I can see Becker as very deserving of unsung hero. He was the original author of every Linux Ethernet driver I have ever used, and without him I would have gone over to *BSD.

Hopefully the 'Beanies' become an annual event. My only Q would be: 'If Linus won X this year, is he ineligible to be voted X next year, or are we unable to vote him in as A,B,C,Y or Z?'

Re:Wow (1)

Foogle (35117) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297758)

You know what? I hope you realize how on-the-money you are... I think I'll take that advice.

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"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

Re:Slashdot Gnome love-in continues (2)

Arandir (19206) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297759)

Now I hate the Gnome just as much as the next guy, but this is a bit overboard...

"BrushedMetal is a Gnome/E theme"

Uh, BrushedMetal is an Enlightenment theme. Enlightenment is not Gnome. I don't have one bit of Gnome on my box but I use Enlightenment and BrushedMetal, eSlate, and BlueHeart.

"I bet KDE and Windowmaker themes weren't even allowed in this stupid contest."

Did you nominate one? I was torn between Windowmakers's AIndustrial, KDE's Photon and E's BlueHeart, and I ended up with BlueHeart. There is a very good reason there were pretty much only Enlightenment themes nominated: you can do tons more with them than with any other wm themes.

I remember the first time I was drunk too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297760)

That video reminded me of the first time I got drunk, IN GRADE 8.

GNOME / KDE: Who cares? (3)

WHiTe VaMPiRe (87507) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297761)

So what if KDE won no awards? If I wanted to use Windows, I would run Windows; it has a better interface anyway. (Spare me the flames, I care not.)

Seriously though, I am not out to bash KDE, to each their own. I am not a big fan of GNOME either, just another excuse to eat resources. That is what Enlightenment is for.

Enlightenment won best unix desktop *eyecandy* -- KDE and GNOME have very little *eyecandy*.

I am not too fond of the default Enlightenment theme. Nevertheless, you must agree that it is hard for a Blackbox theme to win the 'best theme' award. Enlightenment, overall, has the most eyecandy when it comes to themes. Blackbox is an excellent windowmanager. In fact, I am running it now. Nevertheless, it is simplistic. To reiterate, Enlightenment, overall, has really neat stuff when it comes to themes.

Quit complaining about it being 'one-sided.' Did you vote for what you liked? Good, you got your side in. If not, too bad, you should have. This was not intended to be a big deal anyway, it was just for fun.

I was slightly shocked when I read this report and saw 90% of negative comments. Why must everybody be so negative? Do you always have to go out of your way to attack Slashdot or something they have done? Opinions differ, get used to it, and deal. You are not 12 any more, try acting like it.

You people might enjoy life more if you quit whining.

Kind regards,

WHiTe VaMPiRe\Rem

Re:Wow (2)

Enoch Root (57473) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297762)

Hee-haaw, rellort, you are so on the money!

I bet we'd be amazed how many so-called 'good posters' on Slashdot have alternate IDs for creative trolling. Myself, I'd fancy burning off the excess karma and always be sure to keep my karma at exactly 0. That would certainly be in synch with the concept of cosmic balance.

Its usenet, all over again (2)

Yarn (75) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297763)

Aye, its got pretty bad, as for trolling, I cant be bothered. I'll just go on saying what I think. I wont just disappear like I did on usenet.

(The fact I lost my ability to connect to a news server may have contributed to my dumping of usenet :)

CGI Award (1)

lstein (149452) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297764)

I just found out about the Beanie Awards, and also that the CGI module won the award for best Perl module. Since I wrote the module, does that mean I get some money (which would certainly be a first!)?

Where do I go to get my check?

Damn! Who is the BABE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297765)

http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-077.j pg

Slashdot Slashgrits Box! (1)

pb (1020) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297767)

Even if Slashgrits is just headlines and a poll, couldn't we have a Slashbox for it?

Pretty please? I *need* my daily updates on the latest grits-pouring, pancake-making, ninja news for trolls, stuff that petrifies! :)
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Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? (2)

Zorikin (49410) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297768)

Please excuse my off-topicness.

My experience with KDE and Gnome, and YMMV, has been this. Both almost never crash, even with heavy use. Gnome crashes usually amount to the panel croaking and then starting up again right away. Big deal. At worst, X will quit. KDE crashes tend to cause X to lock up the mouse and keyboard, meaning that I have to drag my ass down the hall and beg someone to give me a telnet window so I can kill X myself. "Why don't you get Windows," they ask. Oh, the shame of it all, the humiliation!

Thank you, Gnome.

Re:Next year's nomination for the (1)

kvhaz (60993) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297769)

What exactly does "one of us" mean? Didn't realize this was a cult. And heaven forbid one should read something other than tech news. lighten up guy.

Live from NYC (0)

mholve (1101) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297770)

Whoa, what a dorkfest the Andover booth was... So what did you guys actually *do* there?

Buy anyway... LinuxWorld was weak. Only half of the top floor, the very small side - was used. The downstairs area was closed also. Maybe it's just me, but Linux Expo in Raleigh/Durham was more exciting and "big money" than this lame beast.

Anyone else find something strange about SGI's tie-dyed shirt that said, "open is not free?" Yeah, it is true sometimes - but what did I miss? Thie was apparently a quote from the dude mentioned below the quote, but WTF?

LinuxOne. LOL. 'Nuf said.

What was so special about the BSD woman? If she had worn a red g-string then I can see the commotion...

Applixware is looking WAY better thanks to it's GTK re-write. Keep it up Applix! Got a preview CD at the show... It runs rather well so far with only one crash and a lot of PNG library warnings so far.

A few cute stickers to be had but nothing memorable like LinuxCare's "Linuxgruven" one that I got last year. "Living la vida Linux" was cute, the VA Linux ones inescapable and the "Linux is where I want to go today" ones were lame and ugly.

Lots of cool games to be had about the show. Loki is kickin' some serious bootie out there. Keep it up folks!

Overall I wasn't really impressed with the show itself. Linux Expo was way more energetic and seemed to have a lot more cool stuff.

And that's all I have to say about that.

How about a special Beanie? (0)

ckd (72611) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297771)

We should have a special Beanie Award for longest use of the term "recent" to describe an event. (Maybe as part of a special story on the upcoming anniversary of "recent" events?)

(Oh, and guys? The features box still says that "Voting has begun" for the Beanie Awards. This is true. WWII has begun, but it has also ended; as, I presume, has the Beanie Awards voting period.)

Old News! (3)

Anomalous Canard (137695) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297772)

I mean, this happened like, last Thursday.
Anomalous: inconsistent with or deviating from what is usual, normal, or expected

Re:Does this make sense? (1)

Munky_v2 (124274) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297773)

AC = Alan Cox.


Munky_v2
"Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."

Re:MODERATE THIS UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297774)

HAWHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHAHAH!

The parent of this wasn't really funny, but this is the one that made me break out laughing. This deserves a 5,funny.

Test -- moderate down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297775)

My god -- does posting text-only actually work now?
>>>>>>>>>>&&&&&&>&>

System 12 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297776)

Just curious, what ever happened to system 12?

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (1)

scumdamn (82357) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297777)

The most inspired thing about the poll is that Signal11 is a choice and that he's actually winning!

Re:Slashdot Gnome love-in continues (1)

HomerG (15114) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297778)

"Most improved project? Gnome? Improved from crashing every second to crashing every other minute, I suppose."

I use Gnome and I can't remember the last time it crashed. I must not be running any of the good stuff. What am I missing?

Re:The only reason.... (2)

extrasolar (28341) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297779)

<i>KDE is more stable, has more features, and is overall a much better project, with nicer project leaders and a better toolkit.</i>

You must not have used GNOME in a *long* while. After all, it was voted most improved project. Was KDE even nominated for anything? (honest question)

Re:The only reason.... (1)

Zorikin (49410) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297780)

Hello, please do not post to slashdots in realities other than your own. This slashdot exists in a reality other than the one which contains the Gnome and KDE to which you are referring. While your comments regarding these projects, and regarding Millennium's post, may apply to the reality from which you originated, they simply do not apply to this reality, and as such should not be posted on this slashdot.

Bluesteel: not just for Enlightenment anymore... (5)

tuffy (10202) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297781)

I must admit, Bluesteel looks pretty nifty. It's got nice sharp corners and a neat shape to it. I actually went to the trouble of installing Enlightenment for it.

Then I discovered that Enlightenment sucks.

It ran slowly, used icons for things (ick), and made a general mess of my X session. I won't even get started on the customization menu ("transparent" window dragging? WTF?). Maybe somebody really loves Enlightenment, but that somebody is not me.

So then I found Sawmill. Sawmill has the Bluesteel theme, and yet doesn't suck. It has no icons, has genuinely useful customization, and lets me attach a theme to as many or as few windows as I'd like. (I usually pick one xterm for Bluesteel, just cuz). So, I voted for Bluesteel anyway simply because Shinyblue wasn't available.

Enlightenment may suck, but its prettiness can be ported...

Re:Nice ass. (1)

David Ham (88421) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297782)

if you liked that, you'll *really* like this...

i am a picture link! [metastudios.com]

i don't own this image, btw, i just found it online, so if it's yours and you want me to take it down, mail me and let me know.
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More pics! (1)

GeorgieBoy (6120) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297783)

For even more pics, visit:
http://www.penguinempire.com/linuxworld [penguinempire.com]
Mascotts, Alan Cox, and much of /. team in there.

Re:Slashgrit beanie awards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297784)

Sig 11 is poll whore!!!

Re:CGI Award (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297785)

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Everybody knows that the guys who actually wrote the code don't get any of the money...

Re:hello (1)

HomerG (15114) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297786)

I laughed myself to tears and almost wet my pants when I read this. I think it may be because I just watched "American Pie". "The flute is not magical" will be a phrase I will be using for some time to come. Thanks for a good laugh and phrase.

Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? (1)

vectro (54263) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297787)

Without a doubt, that would be GNU cat. ;)

Re:Does this make sense? (2)

moonboy (2512) | more than 14 years ago | (#1297788)

I think the term unsung more appropriately means: not given the recognition deserved not the least known. Does that make sense? Please feel free to correct me.

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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

Re:Cynical old me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1297789)

Hey

I happen to agree with him. Moderator who moded him a troll, flush yourself JiggityJiggityJargon
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