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.god Domain Names: Another "Pioneer" Registrar

timothy posted more than 14 years ago | from the "JENJIELI.GOD-was-not-found-and-is-available" dept.

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commodoresloat writes: "According to this article, the top-level domain (TLD) .god will soon be available. Most interesting is that Joe Baptista, who will be selling domain names under the TLD, says outright that he will not respect trademarks or even court decisions ordering him to respect trademarks. Does this mean anyone can register microsoft.god?" Available, maybe, but not very useful if ICANN doesn't care to ever recognize them. Note, though, the site is only semi-functional. "The registry will allow you to look up dot.god names for availability but it will not allow you to register at this time." Pity. I hope CmdrTaco gets credit.

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Re:Interesting (1)

sirPaul (119432) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062273)

I can see more religions taking offense at this. Is this not a really good way to take the Lord's name in vain, as well as put Gods above God? And some other Old Testament no-no's could spring up.
Paul Bryson

how? (1)

sk1tch (152715) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062274)

what is required to register a top level domain like .god? can just anyone register it and get it recognized by icann?

Calculated to offend.. (1)

PopeAlien (164869) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062289)

Hmm.. I bet even more people could be offended by the innoffensive PopeAlien.com [popealien.com] if it was a .god domain..

Get moving ICANN!

and what about case- sensitivity? will .GOD have to be in all caps?
-

Re:Cripes... (1)

jeffg (2966) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062291)

nietscheisdead.god

Re:Too many TLD's (1)

Nexx (75873) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062293)

I thought the whole point of having .com, .org, .net and .edu was to reduce internet overhead

Of course, that's also why there were IP Network classes. Now there are tons of Classless networks, and the routing tables are just plain *huge*.

<sarcasm> soon, we'll see the advent of TLDv6....</sarcasm> *sigh*

Can't Any of Us Do This? (3)

waldoj (8229) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062294)

It seems to me that any one of us fools could start a registry. The fact that no DNSs respect our system hardly matters -- people are willing to pay. I think that news of people starting new TLD registries will soon be like news of people auctioning off things on eBay: the press not realising a non-event when they see one.

This is just stupid.

-Waldo

Hmmm... (1)

Exantrius (43176) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062295)

I found this about an hour ago, and started playing with it. I tried to register iam.god... Of course is.god would be a good investment (Imagine, for only $20 bucks, you can get *.is.god as your domain name!)
Okay, it's probably not original, but It let me sign up for it!
Hasta luego
Exantrius

Why... (1)

EvlPenguin (168738) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062296)

...would anyone want to register microsoft.god? Microsoft.666 maybe. Microsoft.god seems like what Bill will register when he decides to gather his killer robots and take over the world.

I can just picture him after the ruling to break up M$, on the news saying: "We offered a comprimise to the DOJ, but they turned it down. So now my mechanical slaves will take over the world! Hahahahaha ALL HAIL MICROSOFT!" Then all TV screens all over the world turn black and then display the M$ logo. He will have support too because there were subliminal messages in all Windows operating systems.

Then the rebels will gather in preperation to invade Redmond. They will airlift a penguin into the M$ building, who is hiding machine guns and bombs under its wings. It blows past Bill's minions and gets to the secret underground lair, just in time to see Bill putting on his human skin (he IS a robot after all!). Bill is alarmed and pushes a button under his desk, which sends in hundreds of killer robots that surround our hero. Fortunatly, all the robots are running Windows CE and they happen to come up with an "Illegal Error"! They all fall down, useless. However Bill is still active because he just rebooted, so he has about 30 seconds left until he crashes, and with no one to revive him, he is doomed. But Tux wants to take him out in style, so he aims, and... "HASTA LA VISTA BABY!!!!!".

The world is once again safe for democracy.

Alternate DNS... GOOD (1)

volkris (694) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062297)

I think alternate DNS installations are something that the Internet really needs more of. I don't like to see so much power on the net being with one system like it is now.

There was never anything saying that there had to be just one system, and I for one would like to see alternate systems. It would create more redundancy, and probably would make it too difficult to bring stupid lawsuits against people who "have your trademarked domain" like the whole toys.com deal a while back. Making multiple systems would increase choice and impartial organizations for end users.

And no, multiple registration authorities will not be the same. It's just not seperate enough. Everyone is still limited by the same TLDs and the same general system.

Just my two cents.

Re:I want to register is.god.. (1)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062298)

Sorry. Already taken [pccf.net] .

Quotes are my friends. (2)

tve (95573) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062299)

"Man is certainly stark mad: He cannot make a flea, yet he makes .gods by the dozens." - Montaigne....sort of

what interests me most... (3)

banky (9941) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062310)

...will be the extreme RUSH of people to register sex, football, unix, and god.

.odd (3)

nezroy (84641) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062312)

I'd much rather see .odd than .god

Of course, this does leave room for some great domains... wrathof.god, oh.god, iam.god... I wonder, though, if we'll see a .allah soon?

Barring all else, I can't wait to see what the Christian/Catholic community has to say about this...

I want to register is.god.. (5)

citizenc (60589) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062314)

.. so I can good subdomains:
  • slashdot.is.god
  • citizenc.is.god
  • bill.gates.thinks.that.he.is.god

Of course there are OTHER is.god subdomains.. anybody ELSE have good ones? =)


.- CitizenC (User Info [slashdot.org] )

Who does this guy think he is? (5)

Zoyd (13778) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062317)

...Joe Baptista, who will be selling domain names under the TLD, says outright that he will not respect trademarks or even court decisions ordering him to respect trademarks.

Well, who does he think he is? God?

Re:DOES GOD HATE YOU? (1)

LSD-OBS (183415) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062318)

Ph34r not, brothers in the source. The Gates of Hell Will Not Prevail.

Anyway, please stop posting crap, Dr Fool.

Gates.says.money.is.god

Re:Too many TLD's (1)

DgtlGhost (155814) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062319)

Well, Let's see... The two letter TLD's all belong to countries, so it's not really fair to be upset just because some countries see the benifit of selling un-real estate, AND,
No one really seems to have kept up the intent of the COM/ORG/NET division, so what the hell's the point. Or do you think /. is non-profit? So, why not just a few more internet area codes for people to pick from? But what's the point if anyone can use them for any reason? It's just a name in the end.

-Earthman

Re:Interesting (1)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062320)

or perhaps there.is.no.god

Re:Alternate DNS... GOOD (1)

Zrealm (114647) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062321)

Of course, if its small groups putting together odds and ends here and there, who knows if any of them will take off? In order for them to be worthwhile, they need to be championed on a bigger scale, I think. Not to mention, this is assured to be unpopular with any of the companies that genuinely

Viva la Revolution! (5)

Wellspring (111524) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062322)

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Burn All TLDs!!! OK, I really, really am serious. We simply don't need them.

Think about it. Companies will always buy their domain name with every possible TLD no matter how many there are. So it isn't like we'll get any more domain names appearing when we create more and more restrictive rules.

Meanwhile, the trademark disputes won't stop. They'll just get more lucrative. What's the point of trying to pigeonhole every site by its Jungian archetype? TLDs like .gov can exist, certainly, but why make those last three letters so important? Let's just open it up.

Anything should be allowed to be a TLD. If coke wants to buy .coke, then fine. We've grown out of this authoritarian need to control everything. Let's just let go, and reorganize at a higher level.

Funny as it sounds Burn All TLDs is really what I think we need to do. Leave it ALL open for everyone. If slashdot wants .slashdot or .flame or .grits, what other than an anal need to organize everything should stop them?

I get the feeling that, like all the other times I have said this, I'll either get moderated into the floor or ignored. But this really is an important thing to think about. We all assign some magic importance to it, but it is just an organizing convention from the prehistoric past.

Arpanet is gone. Time for us to find our names for ourselves.

Re:Alternate DNS... GOOD (1)

Zrealm (114647) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062323)

Oops =( genuinely have the rights to a domain name.

Re:I want to register is.god.. (1)

MAXOMENOS (9802) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062324)

  • linus.is.god
  • pat.robertson.is.not.god
  • pat.robertson.does.not.speak.for.god
  • why.god
  • why.me.god
  • geek.god
  • blasphemy.god

The Second Amendment Sisters [sas-aim.org]

wouldn't (1)

tcd004 (134130) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062325)

registering "microsoft.god"

hmmmm

seems to me that would be about like crossing the proton streams. you know, dogs and cats, living together...

tcd004

Here are my

Microsoft [lostbrain.com] and AICN [lostbrain.com] parodies, where are yours?

Re:Interesting (2)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062326)

Well there is always the "of" subdomains. and to

will.of.god
submission.to.god
house.of.god

-Steve

yes.yes.yes.oh.yes.oh.god (3)

Moderation abuser (184013) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062337)

That'd be my choice.

Joe Baptista on MAPS RBL (5)

Analysis Paralysis (175834) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062338)

Joe Baptista's domain is on the Realtime Blackhole List [mail-abuse.org] for spamming. Check this [mail-abuse.org] for full details.

Dibs on iam.god (1)

Saint Aardvark (159009) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062339)

And youarenot.god while I'm at it, too.

Policing responsibility? (2)

PopeAlien (164869) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062340)

Would it really be his responsibility to be a police-force for Trademark and Copyright infringement?.. Why should a registrar limit the registration of "mcdonalds.god" or "pepsi.god"? Unless these domains are actually used to infringe the copyright, why shouldn't "Joe McDonald" be able to own "mcdonalds.god"?..

Taking it one step further- even if the site is a parody or direct rip-off of the trademark.. should the registrar really be held accountable rather than the owner? .. The internet is not like TV or Radio.. It is a "many to many" medium, more like the phone system.. Do we hold the phone company accountable if someone has a number that could "potentially" infringe on a copyright? (1-800-FAT-FOOD?)
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Just curious.. (1)

3Cats (113616) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062341)

why there is no .WEB ? It would be pretty cool for all the web only based businesses, as in, " no brick and mortar here ".....

as for me, I'd pro'lly register angry.god

or maybe drooling.god..

heh.

New idea? (1)

Hal_9000@!!!@ (152225) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062342)

If there is .god for monotheistic folks, where is .nogod for the atheists?


Re:I want to register is.god.. (3)

TrevorB (57780) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062343)

my.god:

http://my.god/its/full/of/stars/
http://my.god/is/better/than/your.god/
http://oh.my.god/

why.god:
http://why.god/WHY?/

While we're resistering companies, how about:

http://sun.god/
http://be.god/

Or advertise your prowess in programming:

http://linux.god/
http://perl.god/
http://java.god/
http://sql.god/

Not only will the lawyers be going after him. (1)

Hitokage_Nishino (182038) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062344)

Politically correct activists will diatribe him for not also registering .goddess as a .god equivalent. "I mean, the SEXISM! How more of a bigot can he be?"

Then of course, are the people who will blast him for not getting .gods as well. "How inconsiderate to the other gods."

Oh, and then there is group that wants him to put .goddoesnotexist .. "for truly does he not realize that he's an idiot for thinking of any at all..."

Just stick to organizational domains and country codes... nobody needs a domain for every word in the dictionary

Hoax? (1)

Joao (155665) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062345)

Doesn't anyone else thing that it is mighty fishy that this is being offered by some guy calling himself "Joe Baptista" (John the Baptist)?

Re:idiot (2)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062359)

Or perhaps instead of being an idiot, he is insightful. The domain of trademarks is commerce. (Damn overloaded language. Let me try that again...) The concept of "trademark" only exists in relevance to trades. It is logically impossible for a trademark to be violated outside of the scope of commerce. For example, when someone hands a mysteriously burned black rock to a geologist and the geologist says, "That is coke," he is not violating a trademark.

I'm assuming that anything within the .god TLD is implicitly within the realm of religeon. (No, I don't truly and naively believe that's all it'll be used for, but the TLD nevertheless has a purpose, just as .com and .net do.) No religeon (except Scientology *cough*) could have a trademark, could it?

Is the pope going to register a trademark on the word "Catholic"? What's next, copyrighting the bible? Yeah, we have to protect God's incentive to create such works.

I'm an atheist have never witnessed anything supernatural in my life. But if a fiery chariot comes down from the heavens, bearing a being who says his name is "McDonalds", then I'll going to register and sing His praises on mcdonalds.god, and if any megacorp comes looking for me, I'll laugh in their face. This is out of your realm, Ronald!


---

Start the FreeDNS project...? (1)

Randseed (132501) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062360)

It's already possible to do private DNS. Just set up your DNS server and have it do whatever you want. If you want people using your DNS server to have microsoft.com resolve to microsoftsucks.com, you can.

Of course, it gets a bit more complicated when you start querying other peoples' DNS servers (e.g. Microsoft's in that example) for third and higher level domains.

Perhaps a better way to do this is:

1) Define a new TLD. ICAAN doesn't have to support it. You can make it .biteme if you want.

2) When the (modified) DNS server gets a request in the .biteme TLD, it strips the .biteme TLD off of the request. So in the Microsoft example microsoft.com.biteme would become microsoft.com, but a flag would be set saying that it's on the alternative DNS system.

3) If the flag isn't set, proceed as things are now.

4) If it's in the alt DNS system (there could be many of these, actually), all DNS requests would take place on a different port. (e.g. not port 53).

Obviously, this needs some refinement. :)

Re:DOES GOD HATE YOU? (1)

AndyL (89715) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062361)

"YOU ARE GOING TO HELL! "

Can I bring my laptop?

Wondering About Ignoring Trademarks (1)

Cheshire Cat (105171) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062362)

Say that this person does ignore trademarks and court-orders. Further suppose that he's able to do this w/o adverse consequences. Could, say, Microsoft successfully sue the person(s) who register microsoft.god?

Re:wouldn't (1)

Saint Aardvark (159009) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062363)

ROFL

Re:Soon any 3 Letters will become a TLD (1)

Byteme (6617) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062364)

ok, how about .tld ?

No, only allow 3rd or 4th level domains. (1)

Moderation abuser (184013) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062365)

It can all be sorted by reserving 1st & 2nd level domains for administrative puroposes only.

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/05/10/228 219&cid=105

and WHY do the dumb ones get through? (1)

British (51765) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062366)

I really don't understand this. Why, out of all the possible 3-letter combinations, is GOD going to get approved?

I've seen better ideas for TLDs from the trolls on here. .xxx is probably the best one strictly for porn sites, and boom, you've solved keeping kids off the porn.

Re:Respecting Trademarks (2)

AcidMonkey (188562) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062367)

remember...this is the internet...

NOT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

---
In this case, it's both. Americans in America are supposed to obey American law, even if the effects of their actions cross national boundaries.

...

Re:Opens up some humorous possibilities (2)

Phexro (9814) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062368)

uh... no.

core is an independent registrar organization. whatthefuck.com is registered by one Nick Melnick of 2550 Long Lake Road, New Brighton, MN 55112.

he registered it through domainbank.net, a core member.

as soon as core popped up, i went and grabbed sickfuck.org, a domain i had long lusted for, but which my requests for had been previously denied.

down with nsi.

--

SnowPhoton's TLD Hut (4)

zpengo (99887) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062369)

Hurry hurry hurry!

Today only, register your domain under the following TLDs:

  • .atemyballs
  • .isawebsite
  • .foo
  • .dotdot (e.g., slashdot dot dot)
  • .natalie

Each registration costs only $100. Get yours fast!

note: this service does not cover anything other than adding your name to a list.

Make your checks out to...

So is the bottom level domain .devil? (2)

dustpuppy (5260) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062370)

And think of all the other religions you could have ... .zeus, .thor ...

Re:I want to register is.god.. (3)

Sonicboom (141577) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062371)

Don't forget the 31337 .god domains.

warez.god
mp3.god
napster.god
dog.god
31337.god
b1ff.god
BoW.is.god/phear/BoW
Bob.is.god/fnord/
pr0n.god

Re:SnowPhoton's TLD Hut (1)

zeck (103790) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062372)

Heck, why not sell .com, .net, and .org too!

Stranger than, er, fiction... (2)

babbage (61057) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062373)

A local church here in -- yep! -- Alabama had a sign out for a month or saying to visit them on the web at http://www.com.god/, much to the derision of my sinner techie friends & I. Little did we suspect that the name would actually be up for grabs before long... Jesus... hahahahaha

This one's gonna be too good not to abuse. I can see it now -- atheist.god, i.am.god, $foo.is.god (with $foo as who/what ever), ask.god (hehe confessional! hahaha), find.god (aka 'where's waldo'), etc. The hilarity just may never end.

But first, I've gotta get com.god. I must! hahahahaha



This is copyright infringment (1)

Phoenix1 (93111) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062374)

Maybe you should ask the owner of the name "God" to see if he would aprove of this, this is heresy! Oh well, no on capitalizes it anyway

The big question is (3)

auntfloyd (18527) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062389)


Will atheist DNS admins accept it?

Re:Policing responsibility? (1)

AcidMonkey (188562) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062390)

I am pretty much the exact opposite of a lawyer (IANAL++), so take this with a grain of salt the size of Omaha...

Would it really be his responsibility to be a police-force for Trademark and Copyright infringement?.. Why should a registrar limit the registration of "mcdonalds.god" or "pepsi.god"? Unless these domains are actually used to infringe the copyright, why shouldn't "Joe McDonald" be able to own "mcdonalds.god"?..

There is a difference between policing and responding to legitimate complaints. He can let someone register pepsi.god, but if he knows it's infringing, he has to revoke whatever support he is giving. Just getting an e-mail from Pepsi may or may not quality, but a court order sure as hell would.

Taking it one step further- even if the site is a parody or direct rip-off of the trademark.. should the registrar really be held accountable rather than the owner? .. The internet is not like TV or Radio.. It is a "many to many" medium, more like the phone system.. Do we hold the phone company accountable if someone has a number that could "potentially" infringe on a copyright? (1-800-FAT-FOOD?)

I could be very, very wrong, but I think parodies are specifically protected a lot of the time. As far as the registrar being "held accountable" it's a matter of assisting a violation of the law. If I know that someone is (physically) stealing, and I support him in any way (even by doing something that would otherwise be legal), I'm an accomplice to the crime.

Conspiracy (which is a felony) might also apply, but I'm not sure how it relates the weird way copyright is sort-of criminal and sort-of civil law.

...

Oh dear God this won't be good. (1)

SirStanley (95545) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062391)

This won't be good I can see it now ihate.god
iam.god
damnyou.god
ibeleivein.god
Etc... The only thing he is gnna have to worry about are those Gun Toten Mud Slinging Nazi's Known as the Christian Right or Reich or what ever they are.

who is this guy... (1)

justin_w_hall (188568) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062392)

maybe i'm just not up on internet celebrities... but why does this guy Joe get to add a top level domain? when was the last time a non-country-code based TLD was created? whatever happened to .web and .biz and all the other ones under consideration back in the day? has .god been on the list for a while? is there some sort of procedure for requesting the addition of new TLD's? why is this whole post just questions? ---

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Well then. (1)

drwiii (434) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062393)

Note, though, the site is only semi-functional. "The registry will allow you to look up dot.god names for availability but it will not allow you to register at this time"

So you can check for availability in this new TLD, but you can't register anything under it yet?

I'd imagine that was an extremely simple CGI to write.

Joe Baptista = nuts (2)

bad-badtz-maru (119524) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062394)

Hey, Joe Baptista is a regular poster in the OpenSRS mailing list, doesn't seem like a service someone starting their own gTLD would be using. He seems like a real innovator. He managed to piss everyone in the list off by saying that (essentially) the problem with the internet was poorly written software such as BIND and Sendmail (actually he is pissed because he was RBLed) to the point where Paul Vixie actually joined the list just to post a couple of messages in response.
Sarcasm aside, this guy is 20 pounds of BS in a 10 pound sack.

Maru

Re:Opens up some humorous possibilities (1)

Longing (23218) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062395)

Ah yes, my bad. I'm still used to whois returning useful information. Bastards. :(

Regarding the dot.is domain ending. (1)

Paladeen (8688) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062396)

Hi there

I live in Iceland, and our domain name ending is dot.is. This has brought abouta variety of webpage space names, amongst others www.this.is/username, www.what.is/username, www.somename.is/adjective and so on. Pretty cool, huh?

vs.god (1)

joepeg (87984) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062397)

satan.vs.god
santa.vs.god
linus.vs.god
:)

SUNDAY.SUNDAY.SUNDAY.SANTA.VS.GOD

I answer to... (1)

jxxx (88447) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062398)

The burning (bush?) question: Will he respect God in name dispute matters?

linus.is.god (1)

flatrabbit (144870) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062399)

lol.

bow.before.me.for.i.am.god


flatrabbit,
peripheral visionary

However.. (1)

segfault7375 (135849) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062400)


I think that many corporations would be hesitant to resgister company.god simply because they would fear alienating and pissing off customers who have strong religious beliefs. This really seems to be more of a TLD for people who dont give a damn. Maybe not tho..

Segfault

segfault@bellatlantic.net [mailto]

Well, you can't mix church and state.. (1)

Ruis (21357) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062401)

Most interesting is that Joe Baptista, who will be selling domain names under the TLD, says outright that he will not respect trademarks or even court decisions ordering him to respect trademarks.

There's one argument for the guy. This is a religious thing, so what can the government really do about it?

Yet Another New TLD Proposal (4)

billstewart (78916) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062402)

Back when the DNS was first coming out, some of us UUCP-geezers weren't convinced that a central registration system would be accepted by the community - this was before trademarks were an issue, and it was ok to name your PDPs and Vaxen after colors like red, green, and blue, or common office equipment like xerox, coke, and mrcoffee, and there were 17+ machines named mozart and 30+ named bilbo or frodo. Local naming was the only real alternative (remember bang-routed email addresses?). Needless to say, we were wrong, and DNS was a big success for the first decade and a half, but there's still the problem that if there's only One Root To Rule Them All, somebody's got to run the thing and there will be naming conflicts. One of the main reasons DNS worked as well as it did is that most machines belonged to organizations with well-identified names, and they could fight it out internally for whose machine got to be mozart.foobar.com.


There have been several proposals for adding more TLDs - the IAHC International Ad-Hoc Committee was relatively reasonable, ICANN was a bit less so, thoguh that was partly because it was a year or two later so there was more commercial conflict, and Esther (bless her heart) knew it would be a dirty job when she took it. As far as I know, the only proposals for new TLDs that have actually succeeded have been a few new country codes (because there's an existing bureaucracy for that, plus of course the countries who've made a quick buck by renting out their namespace), and Brad Templeton's proposal for .invalid, which is declared to be syntactically correct, so you can use it in books and demoware, but doesn't point to anything real.

There have also been the disorganized proposals, from people like Kaspureff at Alternic, and the orange.net folks - start an alternative root, and try to convince people to use your root instead of the Big Roots, but they're fighting a losing game. It's partly a losing game because they've been losing (:-), and partly because it doesn't solve the fundamental problem, it just trashes any efficiencies you gain by shoving conflicting names down a layer in the tree so you don't see them if you're not looking for them.


The people who've been successful at pushing new namespaces have taken different approaches - ICQ numbers are a global namespace, and nobody minds because they don't spell anything and the server can cope with the scale. Realnames sells namespace, and people who want it can use it. And all of these things can easily be patched under the DNS tree, e.g. 1234567678.icq.net or mycompanyname.realnames.com.


(Unless I'm mixing up names,) Joe does, however, get Extra Slack points for having been the guy who tied up various Canadian provincial and federal government organizations for a while by constantly faxing them his requests for fair treatment, better laws and regulations, etc.

Question about this alleged TLD (1)

Zalgon 26 McGee (101431) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062403)

So let's see. You can register a domain, but this new TLD isn't respected by any DNS.

Therefore, I've succeeded in proving one of tghe great philospohical puzzles of all time, by showing that .GOD does not exist.

And of course... (1)

nutsy (33125) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062404)

mr-t.vs.god

Of course... (1)

soulmining (180475) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062405)

...you can't forget

clapton.is.god

You mean... (2)

nutsy (33125) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062406)

... L. Ronald McDonald?

Oh my! (3)

pnevares (96029) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062407)

Host names should be permanent. They define resources--and not legal jibberish. Legal jibberish can change anytime a judge farts.

Isn't that actually how legal jibberish was created? (At least it's how I was taught in my school.) =)

Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".

Interesting (1)

/dev/urandom (167536) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062409)

What is the practical use for a .god domain name? Would religious sites actually use this? I can just see the possibilities for abuse...

www.ohmy.god
-----

idiot (1)

Moleman (74531) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062411)

This guy doesn't sound like he's in the top 5% of the brain catagory. Saying he will not respect and trademarks or copyrights in an invitation to a tsunami of lawsuits in this day and age. It's not a good idea.

Colm Atkins

why .god? (1)

matticus (93537) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062412)

this seems weird. why would they make .god? just for the heck of it? it doesn't seem very practical. maybe .comm, because it seems like all the .coms are taken-but then we'd have someone say "it's slashdot.C-O-M, not C-O-M-M..." or something.

Opens up some humorous possibilities (1)

Longing (23218) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062416)

like... i.am.your.god, my.god.beat.up.your.god, etc. etc.

I'd estimate the number of slanderous, hate, or humor sites will outnumber legitimate religion sites by a factor of 10.

I'm still bitter that someone registered whatthef**k.com before me back when some registrar said they'd allow registering of F*** word domains... but I check now and it's been retaken by the "Core Internet Council Of Registrars" :(

oh my word (1)

Stalin (13415) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062420)

that is righteous

Cripes... (5)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062421)

I could set up a TLD and not have it recognized by ICANN. It doesn't take a whole lot to create one. Having anyone on the Internet be able to resolve it and not corrupting legitimate root servers are rather more difficult issues. I seem to recall that you'll get arrested or sued (I forget which at the moment) if you corrupt the root level DNS servers (Remember, the guy from Alternic did this a while back) so if that happens you can use the headline 'They killed .god!'

If you want to do something really useful, modify gethostbyname() etc to use LDAP calls and set up an LDAP naming service.

Re:I want to register is.god.. (1)

pnevares (96029) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062422)

Of course there are OTHER is.god subdomains.. anybody ELSE have good ones? =)

I'm preferential to sig.is.god
Talk about your recursive domains...

Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".

Re:I want to register is.god.. (1)

F_l_a_x (19175) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062424)

citizenc rulez ;) and im drunk

Re:Too many TLD's (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062431)

But with the recent proliferation of two letter country code TLD's
Those aren't recent! They were assigned years ago. They just saw very little to no use until recently.

I can't believe no one thought about (1)

RoLlEr_CoAsTeR (39353) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062432)

root.is.god.

or did they?

Re:Soon any 3 Letters will become a TLD (1)

Negadecimal (78403) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062433)

Why just three letters? TLDs should provide some layer of classification (i.e. ".microsoft" shouldn't be a TLD), but there's no arbitrary limit on length. Or is there?

Re:Craziness (1)

tricknology (112298) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062434)

That's the gayest thing ever, even gayer than NSI saying they own your domain name I feel.

Perhaps people would respect your argument more if you chose a term other than 'gay' to describe the situation.

Re:idiot (1)

linuxonceleron (87032) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062435)

What's next, copyrighting the bible

Uh, sorry, this has already happened. A church in my town has a sign on the front lawn with a picture of a cross and a scriptutre quote, underneath in little letters it says "Copyright SomethingOrOther Bible Company, 1982" I laughed my ass off, and being atheist, showed all the stupid religious sheep in my town how all the 'religious' companies are little more than commercial entities. Anyways, thereisno.god is going to be mine soon enough, but imagine what those IRC script kiddies will do, i.am.l33t.i.h4v3.r00t.0n.th3.b0x0rs.of.god, or something like that. Anyone get darwin.god yet, or monkey.becomes.man.bible.is.lies.made.by.god, Ok, I'm rambling on here. If these domains are less than $30, expect me to get one :)

WHOIS my.god (4)

jcsmith (124970) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062436)

Someone needs to register my.god just because it makes a sweet WHOIS lookup. It's perfect for those youngsters who are trying to find myself. Who needs years of self exploration when you can just boot up the box and type WHOIS my.god and get all the answers.

Trademarks can't always stop other's using a word (1)

dalesun (140319) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062437)

Generic words trademarked as names like staples or sprint might be used in good faith by another company in a different business without violating the trademark. Organizations like WIPO and ICANN should be careful to ensure they are not being overzealous in protecting famous marks. IANAL, but another company using a trademarked name is usually in violation only when a likelihood of confusion exists. For example, it would likely be a clear violation for a software vendor to use microsoft.god because it is likely to be confused with Microsoft. But if you were marketing... oh..., let's say a Viagra antidote, you might succeed at making an argument that you were using microsoft in your name because it accurately described your product, which is very unlikely to be confused with Microsoft's products. Of course, this would be stupid unless you're ready to spend millions in legal fees and/or loose your case.

Who would be stupid enough to buy these? (1)

Garpenlov (34711) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062438)

Consider this: anyone can set up their own TLD. I can set up my root DNS servers for .god or whatever I want. But nobody who doesn't already know about you (and add a DNS server in your network to their configuration) will be able to reach you. Because, the people in charge of the REAL root servers don't have your TLD in there. We could all set up .god TLDs. (Ever hear of AlterNIC? The masses won't reach any .god addresses until ICANN adds them... and nothing in the article said they were going to add .god.. just that they would be considering new TLDs in meetings soon. Which is nothing new).

dibs on... (2)

zpengo (99887) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062439)

joe.baptista.is.not.god

Re:Start the FreeDNS project...? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1062440)

Why don't we just build our own root server? Tack it on the end of our named.cache, and put in all the cool new tlds we want into it pointing at servers for the tlds. Geek-friendly ISPs wouldn't mind adding it into their named.cache files I'm sure (how many of them read /.? Lots I bet). So, now, who has the bandwidth and the desire to have their machine get smoked by DNS? :) It probably wouldn't take too long to catch on, if it worked. I can just see the yokels calling up AOL's customer service demanding to know why they can't get to "www.ilove.porn" !!

Re:Viva la Revolution! (2)

cbraga (55789) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062441)

Sure. Then all the mess we have today under .com we'll have at top level. At least today we can distinguish between commercial, non-commercial and foreign sites.

Re:I want to register is.god.. (1)

G-funk (22712) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062445)

Hahahahaha! That rules!

who.is.god?
this.is.god
why.is.god
rms.is.god - for the zealots ;-)

Moderate him up!

G-funk

Re:I want to register is.god.. (1)

cronio (13526) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062448)

for rednecks...
i.is.god
or
me.is.god
or
bubba.is.god
for christians...
jesus.is.god
for Juno Reactor fans...
god.is.god

er, ok, enough of that


One Microsoft Way

Too many TLD's (1)

zaius (147422) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062449)

I thought the whole point of having .com, .org, .net and .edu was to reduce internet overhead, and to sort of categorize sites. But with the recent proliferation of two letter country code TLD's, and other ones like .cc, should we instead just switch to a system where anybody can register a tld? So that means you could have www.slashdot and stuff like that.

Just my worthless two cents

-- zaius --

Craziness (1)

Keefesis (70341) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062452)

If anyone bothered to look under the surface...
With all the recent lawsuits, someone is sure to sue someone if their trademark is being violated and US trademark offices have a way of siding with the money unfortunately. Also, if ICann doesn't recongize it, then how will it work without software engineers programming .god into every internet app or OS? Try convincine microsoft.com that even though I own microsoft.god and they have no way of getting it back, they should still support the .god TLD.

I just hope that they don't cost $110US a year like those damn .cc names. That's the gayest thing ever, even gayer than NSI saying they own your domain name I feel. Who feels like suing NSI right about now?

The registry wasn't linked above (2)

pnevares (96029) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062453)

http://god.pccf.net/main.html [pccf.net]
It's only a "test registry" at the moment, but it's got links to create/modify/whois.

Pablo Nevares, "the freshmaker".

Re:idiot (1)

Nexx (75873) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062454)

I believe his intention is to have the individual registers sort it out with the alleged copyright holders, instead of getting the domain name registry in the legal throws.

Just my $0.02 USD, of course.

Re:Too many TLD's (1)

Keefesis (70341) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062455)

Bah. You can never have too many TLD's. Anyway, who would manage the TLD registration. Gawd, I hope not NSI. "We own your domain, your TLD, and your little dog too my pretty."

Respecting Trademarks (1)

AcidMonkey (188562) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062456)

..Joe Baptista, who will be selling domain names under the TLD, says outright that he will not respect trademarks or even court decisions ordering him to respect trademarks.

It doesn't matter if his policies don't favor trademark holders. Trademark dilution and copyright violations are legal matters, not matters of company policy. If he knowingly lets it happen, he can be fined or go to jail.

Most judges would be pretty ticked at his attitude too, which would make it all the worse for him.

...

But that's not all! (1)

MoxCamel (20484) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062474)

You also get this amazing set of ginsu knives and One acre (yes folks, you heard right! That's ONE ACRE!) of prime Mars Real Estate!

Ohmy.god.

A step in the right direction (1)

norculf (146473) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062475)

I think this clown has the right idea. ICANN has too much power. We should create a way to byass their meaningless authority and create all the TLDs we want, and register all the domains we want without ISPs stealing them or the copyright police suing.


Egos (2)

Starskita (164710) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062477)

Egos, that's what this is.

Somebody wants to be the god of their own little world, and have everybody know. What other reason is there for such a label?

.com, .org, .edu- those are all descriptive names for commercial enterprises, non-commercial organizations, and education stuff. But .god? What, you own that domain name, and have supreme power over it? Yay for you.

yeah, it's funny, in a way. It's also very disrespectful and presumtuous. It seems to mock the other names, and anybody who dares believe in higher powers.

I'm not going to say 'No, there should be no .god type domain names' There should be freedom, after all. However, I think it would have been better not to come out with .god. THere are so many other combinations of letters, that would be more meaningful.

I hope I've done the HTML right. :-P



Starskita

Soon any 3 Letters will become a TLD (2)

348 (124012) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062480)

We're going to end up very soon with any 3 letters being accepted as a TLD. It's unavoidable. With time a few will rise and become standards, much the way we use 'com, org' gov etc now.

.god is just another step. Who knows what TLD's will come next. . .

Re:Who does this guy think he is? (1)

RedX (71326) | more than 14 years ago | (#1062481)

Well, who does he think he is? God?

Of course not, he is .God

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