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It was still an interesting concept, though. Gemini writes: "Just thought I'd let you know IGN made an error regarding Sega and Nintendo forming a joint company. Their retraction is [here]"
Tenryujin adds: "IGN DC reported that Sega has not stated that they will be developing software for rival consoles. They also have already stated in the past that their next generation console beyond the Dreamcast is already in development (as I'm sure Sony's hard at work on their PlayStation 3), but that's far in the future. "shifting focus" and "moving away completely" are two entirely different things. :)
Nowhere have they announced that they are getting out of the hardware business. This time next year, we'll have X-Box, PlayStation 2, Indrema, Gamecube and Dreamcast."
Marge, your child is so artistic. Keep him away from my family. You've seen a massive lego train layout, and you've seen the lego desk, but are you ready for ... something more inspiring and enigmatic? Eric Harshbarger, reknowned sculptor of the Lego Desk is at it again. He circulated an e-mail saying, "... I have finally finished the 'LEGO Mona Lisa'. It is viewable at: [this link] whew..." Yow. If you are anywhere near Auburn, Ala. this week, perhaps a polite e-mail to Eric will let get you a close-up look, but he will be packing it up this weekend (Nov. 5th).
The mind boggles.
And the fastest update in the West -- hwaara writes: "The guy who got ruined by FBI has updated his page with answers to common questions by Slashdot readers, check it out here." That includes questions like: 'What the heck were you doing visiting a just cracked site and port-scanning?!' to which Andreas has some pointed words.
Thinking (witch) caps for next year ... Karl writes "Halloween: the perfect opportunity to share the software. Instead of handing-out shrink-wrapped candy, give out the ole' stack of Debian GNU/Linux CD's when those trick-or-treaters ring at the door. The implications and possibilities are endless. If anyone wants to be part of this GNU/Linux Halloween give-away distribution rampage, please e-mail me. I'll probe all sorts of sponsors and get the CD's to give out in 2001. We can print CD labels that have helpful URLs, or LUG URLs and stick them to the CDs. E-mail me with any enthusiasm, ideas, or comments: your input will steer the project. (NOSPAM: karl-at-tux.org)"
This sounds like a great idea to me. Save up all those nice boxes that America Online has been spamming you with, remove the inner label, and re-use. ;)
This could be a good idea... (Score:1)
And can you see what will happen next?... I've heard of parent groups going nuts over people who give out apples and such (There could be a thermonuclear device hidden in there! Think about the children!), now you'll have activist groups on your door thinking you're trying to spread satanic software and trying to corrupt computers and children... afterall, to any good Parents Church Group (TM), Windows is the OS of God :-P
This explains some things (Score:2)
Children + Sugar = Hyper Then Hyper + Open Source....
Oh boy, there goes the neighborhood... Next thing you know, KDE will be sporting a lovely new "aKtive DEsktop" or worse yet, be renaming itself KDE.NET.
On the other hand, this may explain the latest Red Hat release....
"Gee folks, we here at Red Hat are really sorry about all those darned bugs in our latest release. What can I say, other than we here learned that our maximum limit is 43 snickers and 3 boxes of Ju Ju Be's"
Re:WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:2)
I think SJG finally got their coffee make back, but it was after this caused the formation of the EFF and the lawsuit against the govt was settled.
(eyes roll)
The laws of physics do not apply to the internet. (Score:4)
We all wish that the pesky laws of physics did not restrain the internet however they do. Probably what you mean by this is that the landscape of the internet is diferent from the one of the real world and that the murder scene analogy breaks down in some instances.
It is interesting though that you say that the murder scene analogy doesnt work and then you try to use it.
People will gawk at a murder scene.
Sure and people stop trafic to look at car accidents. The problem is that they way you fiddled around the website made you a suspect. The problem is that while this might be a regular reaction (to stop and look) it might not be the smartest thing to do (which is what people were trying to tell you, not that it is "unnatural" to do what you did)
I just telnetted to them, without knowing if they were even open or not
Oh come on telneting to a website is not exactly looking at the crime scene. It is definitely more involved than that. Basically you began to mess around with a website that had been compromised? Something very similar to messing around with a crime scene. No?
So, the police show up, and I'm standing over a broken window.
It more like you are leaving the house as the police come and then you try to explain to them that yes you were in the crime scene but only out of pure curiousity and that they should let you go because you clearly didnt do it even though you do have a gun of similar make as the murder weapon.
I get carted to the police station, get questioned for a couple hours, and they let me go. However, In this circumstance, they stuck me in a squad car, and while they were questioning me, they searched my house.
If you or your finger prints were found in a crime scene you can be sure they are not just going to question you for a couple of hours and then let you go. You better get your sorry ass a lawyer or you are going to be detained for a long long time.
On an aside note.
On the internet, everyone is your neighbor.
Speaking of bad analogies... Nope in the internet everyone isnt your neghbor annymore than in the real world. The truth is that in the internet we can theoretically move at the speed that electricity moves so while everyone isnt our neighbor we do have an increased ability to see people who live far away.
Dude didnt trample over crime scene (Score:3)
he stated it was a DNS hack.
- he port scanned www.yankees.com
- he connected to www.yankees.com:21 and 80.
he didnt connect to the yankees server. he connected to the crackers server that the DNS now pointed to.
- his only real mistake was connecting to old.yankees.com
-rev
See, Slashdot carries up to date news! (Score:5)
Imagine if... (Score:1)
Imagine what they'd do if you gave them AOL CDs.
Re:Ahh, legos... (Score:1)
Only amongst friends. (Score:1)
That said certain behaviour is ok amongst friends but not strangers.
It's still rude for strangers to go walking around your house and checking if _all_ your windows are shut properly. Even if they think it's for your own good. However it's ok, for strangers in your shop, to point out if something seems to be wrong.
It's unwise and extremely impolite for strangers to lock your front door if they find it left open. Because you may have intentionally left it open, and you are now locked out!
If your well meaning friends lock you out, you can all have a good laugh about it later, but strangers shouldn't do that.
True the line is fuzzy between polite and rude. I might be one of those nosy neighbours who people grumble about, but so far all their thanks seem genuine when I tell em their door is wide open
The penalties for being too nosy should not be so harsh, especially if there was no malicious intent.
Too bad most judges and legal people have no clue on what acceptable normal behaviour is on various parts of the Net. They should ask people who do know, if not justice will be ill-served.
Cheerio,
Link.
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
No need for that, just get your "gummint" to spend it more wisely. (Aka. "you have spent how many trillion building nuclear weapons you know you won't use?")
Also I seem to have read somewhere that the U.S. Government - and other administrative bodies down the line - use a much higher percentage on pure administering (aka. themselves) than e.g. European governments. Time to look at the system?
Do you really think that young children will care? (Score:2)
Re:Trick or treat! (Score:1)
Or is that what the rock is for.... hmmmm...
Dammit, I know everybody tells me that slackware isn't very good, but you know what they say... "Like a rock"...
Yes, Really. Really Patented. (Score:4)
See http://photomosaic.com/p/about.htm for the guy who did it first.
I think this got coverage in earlier
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:2)
You say that will lead to corporate-approved pablum, to the domination of vapid boy groups and perky teen girl solo acts churning out mindless cookie-cutter dreck? That's odd...my musical interests are fairly obscure: I like early music. Ask the average guy on the street what his favorite Machaut virelai is and you'll probably get a blank look. For a long time I had to keep an eye out at the record stores and snatch up what few discs I happened across because they weren't all that common. Funny, but nowadays there's a quarterly magazine in the bookstores down the street about nothing but early music ( Early Music America [earlymusic.org]; check it out--anybody whose phone number is 1-888-SACKBUT has won my affection :-), and a bunch of others only a little harder to get to. Those same bookstores feature enough early music CDs that I can easily spend way too much money on them. Look for early music resources on the web and you'll find enough to keep you busy for a LONG time (it's not all stuffy either; check out Bang Lassies [geocities.com]). How can this be? I thought that commercial art was doomed to pander to the lowest common denominator, and that we need a panel of judges unsullied by the market to hand out government-seized money to their friends--er, to fund high art.
I think it's great that, for example, musicians are starting to get out from under the thumbs of the record companies--I support PatroNet [patronet.com] and November Project [novemberproject.com]--but I don't think that government coercion is necessary to encourage what I think is great art.
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
Re:Ahh, legos... (Score:2)
How about the Lego "Dysons Sphere" model. 166 trillon pieces. Complete with a little spaceship crashed on the surface, and a model Scotty waving.
Hmm, not enough caffene on board yet...
~Sean
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
LK
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
I want to be nothing like your nigger ass, I just want you to see that a nigger like you does not belong on the white slashdot!
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:2)
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
And so nigger, how do you respond to George W. Bush paying for an illegal abortion eh? He's a fucking murderer and a DRUNK. I bet you've taken it up the ass from him too!
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
Re:Feds at your door. (Score:1)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/11/07/22
Re:Giving kids Linux CD's? (Score:1)
No, really? (Score:1)
Re:Linux CDs for trick-or-treaters!? (Score:1)
What does this have to do with WIPO?
Nothing.
mmmm... I love dots [jraxis.org].
Re:Trick or treat! (Score:5)
"I got a Debian Linux CD!"
"Well, I got a SuSE Linux CD!"
"And I got a Mandrake Linux CD!"
"I got a rock..."
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
Sorry. (Score:1)
HOWEVER, the government has no business demanding money from people to fund artistic endeavors. I am more than happy to pay for entrance to an art exhibit, and, if I have the financial means someday, I would consider sponsoring individual artists whose art I value.
But having the government literally point a gun to my head, and demand that I hand over money to fund artists in the mission of a 'promise of tomorrow' absolutely disgusts me, as do those people who attempt to convince us that it's the morally correct thing to do.
It's time to re-think those moral priorities, my friend. Would you steal to support art? Would you mug? No? Then why are you asking the government to?
Port scanning (Score:2)
Re:Linux CDs for trick-or-treaters!? (Score:2)
Just think: handing a kid a linux cd could change his life forever (of course, most of them will probably play frisbee).
Bill - aka taniwha
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Halloween (Score:1)
Hallow'een giveaway (Score:2)
It should have lots of things kids would like:
o Games
- hangman
- tuxracer!
- Xbill
o Painting things
- GIMP
- Sketch / Killustrator (wish they had better interfaces
Also, things parents would like, like Koffice, Gnumeric, etc.
Even (dare I say it) teachers -- like learn-a-language programs, kid-level programming tools like logo, typing tutorials.
Coming up with enough copies sounds hard, but needn't be
Even if it's a slightly out of date demo, so what? At LWCE in San Jose, we gave away 5,000 boxes of Debian, with O'reilly book in each. Probably there are distributors who will be willing to donate what are to them "the old versions"
And by halloween next year (I hope!
Someone could make a logo with a nice spooky tux, and / or a jack-o-tux, and / or the usual tux shape but draped over by a sheet with eyeholes
And companies could all contribute nicely -- most companies have an all-GPL, one-disk edition anyhow. They could share a common logo / package scheme, just with a note that identifies the specific distro on the disk.
Something like:
"Halloween 2001: A New Era!
All treats are tricky.
this disc featuring
Linux Mandrake 7.4,
with kernel 2.4.12
All software on this disk
is distributed under the
terms of the GNU GPL.
For More information
check out www.tux.org!"
"
A small pamphlet with some FSF information, maybe, too
This is one of the greatest ideas I've heard in a while. I mean, there is a cultural precedent one night a year of giving away things like at a trade show, but to kids
Let's do it!
timothy
Re:Dude didnt trample over crime scene (Score:1)
Of course they took the coffee maker (Score:1)
Re:WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:1)
Police traditions (Score:2)
Why they took your clothes. All your clothes? Well they also surely know that you are not a MTV fan. So you barely risk to go on the streets advertising the "GET NAKED!.." Beavies & ButtHeads of generation Next. Much simpler than saying "...don't leave the town."
The coofee maker. Man when you ever seen a working coofee maker on a police station? Yeah they will say it's evidence. "Are you sure you locked the door when you left? You were handcuffed..." Or to analyse your fingerprints, your friends fingerprints, your girlfriend's fingerprints, your parents fingerprint's, your neighbor's fingerprints. Anyway most fingerprints will be of those who came to get you... As, after some long hours, anyone wants a good cup of coofee.
Halloween Distro (Score:1)
Should include an easy to install Windows compatible version like Winlinux 2000.
Not that I'm taking credit... (Score:1)
Mt Dew Citrus (Score:2)
I was happy to see Storm which tasted like Sprite, but was caffinated. Then I notice they changed their label - no more zip. Darn.
Re:Ahh, legos... (Score:1)
Re:Only amongst friends. (Score:1)
Why don't you run for judge? You have my vote. Not that that matters...
Another slashback (Score:1)
Sincerely,
Bill Gates (this is NOT a hoax, btw)
lego (Score:1)
Halloween (Score:1)
This is the second story in a row that has refered to Halloween as though it was still in the future
Hey guys, pay attention to your calendar, Halloween was yesterday! This would have been a good story to post yesterday, and or maybe 11 months from now, but isn't it kind of fscking pointless today?
Giving kids Linux CD's? (Score:2)
I think it would be a better idea to give the parents that accompany the kids the CDs. 7 year olds want candy, not pennies or Linux CDs. C'mon.
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Mona Lego (Score:2)
Re:Giving kids Linux CD's? (Score:3)
Hmm, when I've got kids (Score:2)
- [grunby]
Ahh, legos... (Score:1)
Re:While you're at it -- (Score:1)
Re:Halloween (Score:1)
They're talking about *next* year's Halloween, not this year.
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Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
a better solution is to give people resources rather than cash -- something like sourceforge/freshmeat are valued far more than cash to ANY programmer and stuff like artists studios open to anyone are valued far more by the artistic community than a few million dollar plus funded artistic projects or code.
Linux CDs for trick-or-treaters!? (Score:2)
What's more, I can't think of a single scenario in which someone would install an operating system given out for free to their kids. If they know enough about computers to install Linux, they already know where to get it themselves.
Although, it does add an interesting new angle: While you're busy checking for syringes in the apples and poison in the poorly-wrapped treats, you'll also need a virus scan for all the software the kiddies bring back.
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Re:Sorry. (Score:1)
(and of course, I've got no problem with art as a part of a building project, memorial statuary, etc. but that's not really the same as the NEA)
Re:Giving kids Linux CD's? (Score:1)
We gave out halloween styled pencils. All the kids really liked them. Although, I did give out linux CDs when I was on vacation. Any B&B owner that had a computer was given a linux CD with the URLs of several common sites, plus the web page for a LUG in their area. I wouldn't give out CDs to little kids for halloween, but if any teenagers wanted them, that wouldn't be a bad idea.
Anne Marie (Score:1)
Re:WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:1)
Not up north. Health Canada has rules that say cirtus pops like Sprite and Mountain Dew can't have added caffine.
lighten up ... (Score:1)
Right, Anne Marie?
Re:WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:2)
I'm a software and algorithm designer, C++ programmer and graphic artist (makes consulting between programming jobs easy... and alleviates burnout) and I Drink Diet Mountain Dew on those 30+ hour marathon coding sessions. At least, until I go into caffine induced shakes...
Why'd you have to tell me that the 'l337 h4x0rz' share my taste in beverages?
I have an idea! hand out religious propaganda! (Score:2)
*rolls eyes*
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Re:Lego art (Score:2)
Lego Art: Princess Mononoke? (Score:2)
I was wondering how he would handle her face though, with such blocky lego bricks. But then I realized he could just sculpt her wearing that freaky mask of hers.
-SPIM
If once a man indulges himself in First Posts,
very soon he comes to think little of Beowulf Clusters;
and from Natalie Portman he next comes
to Nude Statues and Petrification,
and from that to Pouring Hot Grits Down His Pants.
Lego creations (Score:4)
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:2)
Re:Halloween (Score:2)
FUD or treat, ofcourse..
//rdj
Fingerprints (Score:2)
If someone at the FBI had done the five minutes research that this evil criminal did, they would know better what they were looking for, and would not be confiscating the computer of someone who dared to connect to a privately owned but publicly accessible DNS server.
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Re:Lego Art: Princess Mononoke? (Score:2)
More likely, the mass of white bricks is the fur cape she wears.
Which leads one to wonder: is PETA going to storm the studio and relentlessly attach red lego bricks to the sculpture?
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Re:Linux CDs for trick-or-treaters!? (Score:1)
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That wasn't a coffee maker (Score:2)
Feds at your door. (Score:2)
When I had two BATF agents show up at my door because they were investigating some false report that they'd gotten about me. I was quick to proclaim my innocence and quote laws to them. Their entire demeanor changed immediately when I quoted the first law to them. When I said "According to the Gun Control Act of 1968....." you should have seen the looks on their faces.
I have very little knowledge of "cybercrime" laws on the books, so I'd be out in the cold if I was accused of violating one of them. However, if you're a computer security professional, and you visit sites related of that nature, it might be in your best interest to familiarize yourself with those laws.
LK
They didn't take his Coffee maker (Score:2)
And I DO remember the SJ raid. It almost put him under, and i almost had to weep. I love Steve Jackson!
Re:Linux CDs for trick-or-treaters!? (Score:1)
I almost want to have extra Linux CD's lying around so I can give them to people. I had someone this summer ask me for some CD's and I was going to give him a Mandrake set because I had a newer version, but they were at home. Sometimes people don't want to pay for a box set and don't have the bandwidth to download to ISO or a CD burner to burn the ISO.
the fatal flaw to that is... (Score:1)
Re:This could be a good idea... (Score:2)
Hmm... Could this mean that Oliver Stone predicted the future with Wild Palms' "Church Windows" show?
Hmm...
I support the EFF [eff.org] - do you?
Re:Halloween (Score:2)
Get over it.
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Not only that... (Score:1)
Film at 11.
Is there a retraction coming? By any chance?
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What do I do, when it seems I relate to Judas more than You?
Re:i have to wonder (Score:3)
I couldn't agree more. And if you get cable, you shouldn't be looking at the scrambled stations, just to see if you can catch a glimpse of a boob. You will go to hell if you do that -- that boob is the intellectual property of the broadcasting station, and they wouldn't just broadcast it out to everyone. No, its a tightly controlled encrypted intellectual property boob, not to be reverse engineered or decrypted in any way, shape, or form, without the prior written consent of the intellectual property owner.
If you wouldn't just go look at a boob on tv, what makes you think you can look at other stuff in other places? No-one is giving you the right to just look around at stuff. Didn't you learn not to be curious about boobs and computers and all that other bad stuff in kindergarten? I sure did. Thats why I'm not going to hell, and you are.
WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:4)
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Lego art (Score:1)
Then, all you need is discipline and enough bricks to map every pixel to a brick of the appropriate color. With dithering, and using a sufficient number of bricks, you can replicate pretty much any image.
Lego art (Score:2)
http://www.ericharshbarger.org/ leg o/penguin.html [ericharshbarger.org]
that's right, I'm so sick of hearing about K5 (Score:1)
Bill is right (Score:3)
He's right. There are lots of unskilled programmers getting paid working for him. ;)
just kidding dammit!
--Clay
Re:Giving kids Linux CD's? (Score:1)
I thought it was bad enought that they took his. . (Score:1)
In God's name, what sort of cybercrime 'evidence' is a coffee pot?
" He must be guitly, those Starbuck's junkies are just plain trouble."
Coffee Maker??? (Score:1)
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
Let us raise taxes so we can pay people to play with legos instead of letting you finance a home or send your kids to college with your money.
Fastest update in the west (Score:1)
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
Re:i have to wonder (Score:2)
I'm outraged!! The fact that the person to whom that boob is attached does not own the IP and/or the patent for the "combination sexual enhancement/infant nourishment device" is more evidence that the RIAA and MPAA are trampling our rights!! Why is this not front-page news?!?!
-jdm
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
Re:Mt Dew Citrus = Tangerine (Score:1)
--brian
Re:WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:1)
Meanwhile... (Score:1)
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Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:1)
We have real problems far more deserving of our tax dollars than a paucity of lego sculptors.
Arts and Patronage (Score:2)
Nobody (nobody sane, at least) can give serious objection to this. It's my money. They're working on my behalf. Therefore, what they produce had better live up to my expectations or else I'm going to terminate my support for them.
Now apply the same thing to a government "of the people, by the people". Ought the people really be expected to subsidize art which the majority of them, as represented by their elected officials, find to be deeply offensive? By the same logic, the answer is no, they ought not. This isn't a free speech issue; this is a public funding issue.
There are certain things which are undoubtedly taboo for public funding. A painting portraying Christ's ascension into Heaven, surrounded by his disciples, would likely be considered to be a violation of the separation of church and state. So why is it that art which defames religion, such as Piss Christ (a piece of "art" which consists of a Mason jar filled with urine, with a crucifix floating in it), is not considered to be equally egregious? Defaming religion with public funds ought to be just as taboo as glorifying religion with public funds.
The other problem with introducing "shock art", for lack of a better term, is that it distracts people from the real debate. Of all the NEA monies disbursed to artists, less than one percent goes to fund such extremely poor-taste pursuits. For every Oh-look-I'm-having-sex-with-my-Italian-pornstar-w
The evisceration of the NEA in recent years is just something I have a hard time understanding. Its budget is miniscule; there's no way the deficit will be balanced by breaking the NEA. The amount of public funds which go to these "shock artists" is infinitesimal, less than one percent of the NEA's already microscopic budget.
So why is it Piss Christ has become a rallying cry for increasing NEA funding?
Shouldn't we, instead, be pushing for more NEA funding because it goes to produce the sculptures you find in hospital waiting rooms--the odd piece of abstract sculpture that's in the city park--pays for the public showings at galleries?
(Oh, and by the way, I'm a Republican. *g*)
Re:Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:2)
General government, enforcement and administration: $36 billion
Social Security, Medicare, and other retirement: $650 billion
Net interest: $243 billion
Physical, human and community development: $144 billion
Social programs: $303 billion
Total spending: $1,683 billion
Percentage spent on administration: 2.14%
Miltary: 16.7%
Interest on debt: 14.4%
Stuff the federal government has no Constitutionally permitted business in + pork projects: 65.2%
you have spent how many trillion building nuclear weapons you know you won't use?
The whole reason why they'll never be used is because they're there. Nobody would dare attack us because they would see a massive amount of retaliation from us. You wouldn't go to a gun show to mug someone, would you?
Re:WTF? Coffee maker? (Score:3)
Harshbarger's lucky; can all artists be? (Score:3)
But, sadly, not all artists are so lucky, and the current political climate in the US isn't so forgiving. Back in 1997, NEA funding [house.gov] was severely cut, and private giving hasn't increased to make up for the deficit. And with current debates about eliminating the estate tax failing to see how the estate tax actually increases patronage of museums and public art institutions by wealthy people eager to divest themselves of inheritted works, we're little assured of a brighter future.
How many other lego scuplters would our nation produce if we were more liberal with funding for the arts? How many nascent artists, how many little Erics, are picking through their lego tubs, searching for that flat 3x1 piece, but more importantly, searching for a nation who would see their promise and help them deliver? And if they ever receive the funding they so desperately need, will they be saddled with draconian political restrictions on what sort of art they may create? Sure, no one's offended by a lego Mona Lisa, but will the same be true when someone finally builds a lego Piss Christ?
I urge all of you, write your congresspersons and support funding for the arts. Especially our international friends over in the Netherlands, since you seem to have something extra to do with legos and all. It's imperative that the promise of tomorrow doesn't get squashed today like so many little pieces of plastic under the foot of an angry parent walk barefoot to the bathroom in the middle of the night.